4X Old World - historical 4X strategy by Civ 4 designer (formerly 10 Crowns)

[Axioms]

Sadly there's no talk of improving the GODDAMN HORRIBLE PERFORMANCE.

It ain't happening.You can't fix unity performance issues after you released the game.Would take too much time.

Have you played Xcom 2 War of the Chosen? In that expac FIRAXIS pretty much redid the game engine and drastically improved performance compared to the base game. Couldnt we hope for something similar?

That is the strength of having a in house engine.You can't do the same for unity,you are stuck with the flaws from the get go.
Unreal is better performance wise and the major issue of stuttering is not really present in tbs strategy games.Unity on the other hand is a mess when it comes to any genre.

So if you want to get something from unity in terms of performance you either:
-Have a very experienced engineer team that can actually do something(most of those people work for unity though)
-Invest a significant amount of time during development to get the engine to a respectable performance.Post launch most studios run a skeleton crew unless you are developing a big expansion or something.And the time wasted trying to make Unity run decently is time that could have been used for actual development,so most studios won't do that.

Old world devs are lazy on the other hand thanks the epic deal.They had the money upfront so they had no real worries,they could have tried to iron out performance,they just didn't care.

From my understanding and talking to devs the primary value of Unity is the theoretical platform agnosticism. And a few other convenience features. Not sure I personally think that outweighs the performance issues, especially for an established studio like Mohawk.

 

[Sratopotator]

Seems like the game wasn't that hot on Steam - almost 3 months since release, and the game has 1K reviews (very nice for a medium budget indie, which this certainly isn't).
Another victim to EGS exclusivity, I suppose.

One thing OW totally succeeded at imo is keeping the Civ/4X flame burning:
When I played the latest Civ entries, I was totally drained/bored after a completed full game - I wouldn't touch anything Civ-like for months after.
After completing a game or two in OW though, I certainly had enough of OW (mainly due to technical reasons), but I went on a month long spree of playing 4X/Civ like games (mostly EL and Civ IV).

So yeah, kudos to OW devs for not making a soul draining game that kills the enthusiasm for the genre. A(AA) tier attempts at 4X usually end like that for me.
Oh, and the darn Undo button spoiled me hard - I fully expected to see it in EL and CivIV, forgetting like a moron that it's an OW's gimmick.

 

[Lacrymas]

Fantasy Wars also has an undo button.

 

[Lacrymas]

So, I've been ....sampling this while waiting for a reasonable price drop and it's interesting to say the least. It feels like a Civilization game designed specifically for me that tries to address all the criticisms I personally have of Civ. The hyper bloated time span is reduced to my favorite eras, the ridiculous game length is reduced to 200 turns by default, workers are actually useful for more than 50 turns, you have more to do each turn than just move units around, you have some semblance of a story that contextualizes what you are doing and with whom, you have a campaign to sink your teeth into (more than 1 if you have the DLC), there is no over-reliance on luxury goods for happiness, and so on and so forth. On top of that, they are supporting the game constantly with patches. I love it. What I would like to see in further DLC and isn't addressed in OW at all (at least I don't think it is) is nations that play significantly differently than others. I've only played with Greece for now, but as far as I can tell the others are Civ-style paintjobs. More campaigns are always welcome too. I don't have enough experience with the game yet to know whether I want them to add something in the gameplay department, so I'll reserve judgement for now.

 

[Eyestabber]

Cool story breh, but like...is the game running at an even remotely acceptable frame rate now?

 

[Lacrymas]

I haven't noticed poor fps at all, but I've only played on a duel map.

 

[Eyestabber]

Are you playing for more than 100 turns...?

 

[Desiderius]

This game is insanely good.

Best 4x ever.

 

[Lacrymas]

It is insanely good, yes. The best in the historical civ-like 4Xs for sure.

 

[Lacrymas]

Are you playing for more than 100 turns...?

I played for more than 100 turns now and it's not as terrible as you make it out to be. However, I played multiplayer and the friend I was playing with said it was a slideshow by the end, but he has a shit laptop ;d

 

[Desiderius]

The game Civ V should have been.

Teach your AI how to play your games people <- this goes for any genre.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

I recently got a new PC, so can't say I noticed any performance issues, but probably would have on my old one..game is very good, I actually quit playing it was so good, so that I could finish some other games I am in the middle of playing (Solesta, Warhammer Demon Hunters) and focus entirely on just playing it soon..

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

The game Civ V should have been.

Teach your AI how to play your games people <- this goes for any genre.

Or, at the very least, come up with creative ways for them to cheat that aren't right in the player's face.

 

[Great Deceiver]

The game Civ V should have been.

Teach your AI how to play your games people <- this goes for any genre.

So the AI is decent?

I'm tempted to buy it now.

 

[Lacrymas]

So the AI is decent?

I'm tempted to buy it now.

My experience also says it's decent, but I've only played 2 games besides the tutorial. Both of those games I lost ;d

 

[LESS T_T]

They released a demo:

 

[The Wall]

Acthually good new strategy game. Miracles still happen

 

[GhostCow]

Honestly I prefer Gal Civ IV to this but it's not bad. Just not as much like Civ as I wanted it to be

 

[blrrmmmff]

If you use test server, multiplayer is actually very playable now. Good FR too 2v2 on 7 year old PC.

Also aggressive AI is imperative.

 

[Anthedon]

I still play CivIV regularly in multiplayer with a couple of buddies due to a lack of alternatives. Shame that performance seems to a be a problem here, because otherwise Old World looks interesting. But some of the PCs we use for the multiplayer sessions are getting up there in years.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Lacrymas]

If this expands religions it would be pretty neat. Religions are just kind of there in the base game. I'm hoping it will also come with a significant discount to the base game because it's been out for nearly two years now and it has only had -20% off.

 

[HeroMarine]

That looks very cool indeed, hope it lives up to the promise.
The portraits look amazing, better than anything I've seen in any game.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I've been able to extract all of the portrait files, although there seem to be some strange inconsistencies in the dimensions, so there might not be a means of automating the process of splitting them into individual portraits:

Similarly for the pictures used for events:

 

[HeroMarine]

Thanks. Both the portraits and the images seem leagues above what you'd get in a game of this type.
Consider the shitty direction Paradox took with their art assets.