Incline Path of Exile 2 - now available on Early Access

[Peachcurl]

I hope so, too. The endgame of poe1 was also very simplistic at first.

(of course they could have just done more copy pasta from current day poe1 :/ )

 

[Jermu]

okay did poe1 ssf playthrough so I could compare it to poe2 better

shit build, hierophant spamming freezing pulse

died 15 times before reaching maps, wrote em down

1 mining: darkness, should have read about mechanics
2-4: life reservation testing
5: frozen -> get frozen flask
6: chaos damage
7. chaos damage
8. life reservation testing
9. chaos corpse explode
10. yugul bugged, suicide
11. speedrunning heist
12. frozen, tired
Respec CI
13. fuck up life reservation
14. nasty mob
15. afk rip

found this ring in act 2 which made everything pretty easy with zealot's oath

Im quite confident I could do campaign hc relatively easy now in poe1, but I can't say the same for poe2 even when I got 30 hours in poe1 vs 400 hours poe2. Act 10 had some challenge otherwise easy
just having totem that spawns minions makes pretty much everything harmless


surprising how much smoother events are in poe1, makes you wonder how they can fuck up something as simple as strongboxes in poe2 when they had it right in the first game
campaign poe2 is significantly better, can't say much about mapping since I have only done 2 so far in poe1
poe2 removing gem skill rng is nice
poe1 options for building char are so much more better you can't even compare

but yeah since poe1 has so much stuff going for it compared to poe2 I would expect poe2 requiring at least one or two years to figure out end game properly. now its dogshit when you are forced to run annoying maps that are too long (which could be fine if you did not have to kill every rare --> no backtracking). I only got 30 hours in poe1 so everything is still quite overwhelming but having 50 different options what to do after campaign is cool

done with poe2 since I did everything there is to do, now need to decide do I want to learn poe1 properly or not

edit also wasd is great

 

[Israfael]

Im quite confident I could do campaign hc relatively easy now in poe1,

I've never played HC before the last Ziz gauntlet and I've got to the BS act9 final boss on the first try. So I guess the normal HC campaign (without added bs mechanics) would be even easier.

makes you wonder how they can fuck up something as simple as strongboxes in poe2 when they had it right in the first game

Whole of PoE2 reeks of the NIH syndrome, they've ruined the skills/gear tooltips for no reason at all and reverted the mod tier rankings just so that people would wonder if their T13 mana roll is the best available or not.

50 different options what to do after campaign is cool

The best thing is that you can work towards some specific goal (for example, farming a first 6-link) in several different ways (Legion incubators, ritual omen, Morrigan beastcrafting and there is always a backup option of just spamming maps to get 1.5k orbs), while in PoE2 I'm still stuck with level 19 gem and a 5 link because the orb never drops and the 8 or 9 gems I've vaaled all got bricked.

 

[sebas]

The best thing is that you can work towards some specific goal (for example, farming a first 6-link) in several different ways (Legion incubators, ritual omen, Morrigan beastcrafting and there is always a backup option of just spamming maps to get 1.5k orbs)

To play the Devil's advocate here, the worst part is that all of these systems are obtuse to the point of ignorance. Goodluck to any new players.

 

[ArchAngel]

The best thing is that you can work towards some specific goal (for example, farming a first 6-link) in several different ways (Legion incubators, ritual omen, Morrigan beastcrafting and there is always a backup option of just spamming maps to get 1.5k orbs)

To play the Devil's advocate here, the worst part is that all of these systems are obtuse to the point of ignorance. Goodluck to any new players.

They are obtuse to non new players as well or just the UI sucks. Each of these systems seperately requires you to study how each of it works outside the game (wikies, forums and other sites).

 

[Jermu]

there are indeed 1000 different systems but I would not say its a bad thing. I'm clueless about 99% of endgame mechanics but I learn em as I play + I don't need to master everything with first character (unlike with poe2 where you can master endgame quickly since theres not much to do)

got this one from sailing, guess I make a build around it now which is somewhat annoying since hierophant has plenty of -skill cost stuff and hard to pump spell cost enough with only 4 link chest

 

[ArchAngel]

there are indeed 1000 different systems but I would not say its a bad thing. I'm clueless about 99% of endgame mechanics but I learn em as I play + I don't need to master everything with first character (unlike with poe2 where you can master endgame quickly since theres not much to do)

got this one from sailing, guess I make a build around it now which is somewhat annoying since hierophant has plenty of -skill cost stuff and hard to pump spell cost enough with only 4 link chest
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Be careful, in PoE1 you need to have 5 damage supports with your main skill if you can. Game expects that to be able to run high tier endgame maps. Uniques like this are not that good since they are only 4l. At best you can use it as auto curse or something.

 

[Israfael]

Be careful, in PoE1 you need to have 5 damage supports with your main skill if you can. Game expects that to be able to run high tier endgame maps. Uniques like this are not that good since they are only 4l. At best you can use it as auto curse or something.

Lol, it's what I use on my 100M+ dps hierophant.

https://pobb.in/3wc10wAqlxKs

 

[Zeriel]

Be careful, in PoE1 you need to have 5 damage supports with your main skill if you can. Game expects that to be able to run high tier endgame maps. Uniques like this are not that good since they are only 4l. At best you can use it as auto curse or something.

Lol, it's what I use on my 100M+ dps hierophant.

https://pobb.in/3wc10wAqlxKs

You can safely discount all of ArchAngel's posts regarding PoE 1. He's one of those, "I couldn't figure it out therefore it's bad design" folks.

 

[lukaszek]

my lame pathfinder finally reached maps. Got to start with t10s as... otherwise i get xp penalty

 

[Jermu]

yeah that item is busted fills up whole screen with projectiles, I would like to do my cold thing but for now I can't get mana cost high enough without using archmage I'm still cold but had to insert that into my 5 linked chest.

gonna use CI and hoping to use all mana for auras but can't do it now since archmage mana cost requires some unreserved mana (I can reserve little over half now)
guess I should hope and pray I find something that pumps my skills mana cost

 

[frajaq]

Path of Exile 1 is officially in the cuckshed.
And PoE 1 fans are not happy...

 

[ADL]

based gigachad jonathan/mark pooe1 killers

 

[Cyberarmy]

Hehe a new day, a new drama. I hope this news means we are getting PoE 2 EA content much more quicker.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Hehe a new day, a new drama. I hope this news means we are getting PoE 2 EA content much more quicker.

More like getting trash quicker. They should just spin PoE1 into another company and fuck off to their "Action" gameplay slop.

 

[Perkel]

Based.

POE2 kind of shown how many of those speedy zoom zoomers are in POE1 and how much they matter. They always were loud shitty small clique that overtook reddit in last 5-7 years.

and here are people who would rather play unfinished 0.1 version than above garbage:

 

[scytheavatar]

The elephant in the room is that GGG has only 1 competent lead, and he is needed in POE 2. Which is why Mark has to stop working on POE 1.

Ever since Chris Wilson fucked off and Mark took over POE 1 has gotten way better. I expect POE 2 to get way better too with Mark's increased involvement, provided Jonathan doesn't fuck him.

 

[Perkel]

The elephant in the room is that GGG has only 1 competent lead, and he is needed in POE 2. Which is why Mark has to stop working on POE 1.

Ever since Chris Wilson fucked off and Mark took over POE 1 has gotten way better. I expect POE 2 to get way better too with Mark's increased involvement, provided Jonathan doesn't fuck him.

You mean worse. POE1 got shit precisely because they started to listen to shitty reddit feedback that only wants two things:

1. More loot.
2. More power.

POE2 was born mostly from Chris idea that POE1 was shit now due to balance changes and "community" not being able to move from idiotic pathway as every balance patch trying to reign in loot or power made those people go apeshit.

That's when he started to push for those balance patches that went nowhere, ruthless and so on in preparation of POE2.

And he won. 0.1 version of unfinished game is more liked that finished POE1. Of my old POE1 guard who stopped playing almost all of them are back. Some stopped like me as we want to wait for proper 1.0 but POE2 has "it" that POE1 lost around 5-7 years ago.

 

[scytheavatar]

The elephant in the room is that GGG has only 1 competent lead, and he is needed in POE 2. Which is why Mark has to stop working on POE 1.

Ever since Chris Wilson fucked off and Mark took over POE 1 has gotten way better. I expect POE 2 to get way better too with Mark's increased involvement, provided Jonathan doesn't fuck him.

You mean worse. POE1 got shit precisely because they started to listen to shitty reddit feedback that only wants two things:

1. More loot.
2. More power.

POE2 was born mostly from Chris idea that POE1 was shit now due to balance changes and "community" not being able to move from idiotic pathway as every balance patch trying to reign in loot or power made those people go apeshit.

That's when he started to push for those balance patches that went nowhere, ruthless and so on in preparation of POE2.

And he won. 0.1 version of unfinished game is more liked that finished POE1. Of my old POE1 guard who stopped playing almost all of them are back. Some stopped like me as we want to wait for proper 1.0 but POE2 has "it" that POE1 lost around 5-7 years ago.

You do realize that POE 2 will have to walk down the same path POE 1 walked down, do you? That more loot more power is inevitable for POE 2?

People are back because POE 2 is a new game, they will go away when POE 2 is no longer new. And that is perfectly fine.

 

[abija]

Based.

POE2 kind of shown how many of those speedy zoom zoomers are in POE1 and how much they matter. They always were loud shitty small clique that overtook reddit in last 5-7 years.

Did you dumbfuck even play poe2 for more than act1? It's same fucking bullshit gameplay where you mindlessly clear screens. There's no "action" combat. Just bait to make retards like you that don't really play the games wet themselves. And they moved even more power in gambling/trade than poe1 ever did, right from the start.

 

[Perkel]

You do realize that POE 2 will have to walk down the same path POE 1 walked down, do you? That more loot more power is inevitable for POE 2?

People are back because POE 2 is a new game, they will go away when POE 2 is no longer new. And that is perfectly fine.

Maybe ? But that won't happen for a long time. Moreover at the head now they have experienced dev who knows about power fucking over balance unlike before.

And it's not like they didn't understand that after the fact. They wanted to scale back power but every time they were rebuffed by people going apeshit.

Did you dumbfuck even play poe2 for more than act1? It's same fucking bullshit gameplay where you mindlessly clear screens. There's no "action" combat. Just bait to make retards like you that don't really play the games wet themselves. And they moved even more power in gambling/trade than poe1 ever did, right from the start.

And you dumbfuck played POE2 or POE1 for that matter ? Because it plays nothing like POE1 where you zoom through campaign on auto because campaign was scaled to circa 2016 power level and when you end campaign due to shitload of drops you auto went to between yellow and red maps as first maps were even easier than last levels of campaign.

You can't zoom zoom as much. Sure there are few broken builds but it plays nothing like POE1.

 

[scytheavatar]

You do realize that POE 2 will have to walk down the same path POE 1 walked down, do you? That more loot more power is inevitable for POE 2?

People are back because POE 2 is a new game, they will go away when POE 2 is no longer new. And that is perfectly fine.

Maybe ? But that won't happen for a long time. Moreover at the head now they have experienced dev who knows about power fucking over balance unlike before.

And it's not like they didn't understand that after the fact. They wanted to scale back power but every time they were rebuffed by people going apeshit.

Which is why they can't scale back power. If they fight their customers they lose, it's as simple as that.

This will happen faster than you expect, cause the truth is that live service games are unsustainable cause players get too good too quickly. People will just leave POE 2 if you don't give them the power fantasy they want and expect.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Based.

POE2 kind of shown how many of those speedy zoom zoomers are in POE1 and how much they matter. They always were loud shitty small clique that overtook reddit in last 5-7 years.

and here are people who would rather play unfinished 0.1 version than above garbage:

WOW they doubled the peak players after 6 years of development and billions of money for marketing from Tencent, meanwhile PoE1 had tripled its peak with a Farmville league slapped in 2 months.

 

[abija]

And you dumbfuck played POE2 or POE1 for that matter ? Because it plays nothing like POE1 where you zoom through campaign on auto because campaign was scaled to circa 2016 power level and when you end campaign due to shitload of drops you auto went to between yellow and red maps as first maps were even easier than last levels of campaign.

You can't zoom zoom as much. Sure there are few broken builds but it plays nothing like POE1.

Yes, it's exactly like poe1 where you go from campaign and autoclear first few maps. It's even worse actually because cruel has very poor scaling and even through maps enemy hp scales less than damage. Going full mode dmg is even better than in poe1.
You don't zoom around, but you don't actually have any combat gameplay either. You move slowly between packs of mobs you blow up. Literally worst of both worlds.

They lied like motherfuckers so you look even more like a retard than usually regurgitating pre release promo materials and fantasizing from there.

 

[Israfael]

And you dumbfuck played POE2 or POE1 for that matter ?

You clearly don't play it, as currently I don't even see any mobs on my screen with spark archmage, everything dies offscreen and I have very modest dps (~50k ish on the tooltip) as compared to full dps builds. Also, the current state of the game (kill whole screens or die), incentivises this style of gameplay more than poe1 where you can build a 100% sustain tanky character and kill bosses / big mob packs at your leisure (and to detriment of your currency income).

and here are people who would rather play unfinished 0.1 version than above garbage:

No idea what you celebrate, it's the same sort of curve that every league experiences, just imagine this current s-show continues for another half a year (which is possible with their tempo of development and communication practices)