Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

[Lhynn]

Considering magus get improved invi and mirror image he can do very well with a str build.

 

[Yosharian]

Considering magus get improved invi and mirror image he can do very well with a str build.

Yes, he can. My point was that it restricts you to Str, not that Strength is necessarily bad for him.

I was on the fence myself on this one, slightly in favour of Str originally but my particular multiclass combination ended up working best with Monk weapons so I went with a Dex build.

That extra AC really helps in the early game.

 

[Ent]

Is flurry of blows still allowing you to flurry with any weapon?

 

[Sinatar]

Have the developers said anything about working on the load times?

 

[Ent]

Have the developers said anything about working on the load times?

apparently thats what they are working on for 1.2.0 (next release)

 

[ArchAngel]

Have the developers said anything about working on the load times?

apparently thats what they are working on for 1.2.0 (next release)

Yes but so far in beta it is hard to say if there are any significant changes. From what I read, loading screens connected with kingdom management and capital are not faster.

 

[Ent]

Dear lord. Everytime I watch somebody play this game I see them grabbing every piece of armor they find and then wonder why they need to waste time and rest so often.

 

[Yosharian]

Is flurry of blows still allowing you to flurry with any weapon?

No, it only works with weapons that have the MONK special quality

See my sig for details

 

[Funposter]

Dear lord. Everytime I watch somebody play this game I see them grabbing every piece of armor they find and then wonder why they need to waste time and rest so often.

I did the same thing during my first (aborted) playthrough. The low sell price of basic armour and weapons should enforce the idea that they aren't worth looting, but I think people are so used to the pack rat looting of games like TES or hack and slash Diablo type stuff that they don't think about it. They just see gear and click 'Take All'.

 

[Yosharian]

Considering magus get improved invi and mirror image he can do very well with a str build.

Yes, he can. My point was that it restricts you to Str, not that Strength is necessarily bad for him.

I was on the fence myself on this one, slightly in favour of Str originally but my particular multiclass combination ended up working best with Monk weapons so I went with a Dex build.

That extra AC really helps in the early game.

*if* you use monk weapons, I agree the Dex build without Sneak attacks can do well. But the problem with that approach is that monk weapons late game are far and few in between.

There's two very good Sai.

 

[Yosharian]

Hmm, that changes things. A sai focused build can do really well. Where and what are they, if you can please tell me?

Check my sig, the one I'm going for is made by one of those artisan characters, one that's quite easy to get apparently. However it might take a while to get the weapon you're after.

Edit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...enTet7141EOlFxbFH65C2TjBOXmXd7IcbXsk1/pubhtml

 

[Incendax]

Would necromancy be a viable specialization as a wizard?

It is, and can get pretty strong in the mid and late game. But it suffers in the early game.

If you are not married to the idea of Wizard, then Cleric Necromancer is probably more fun. Especially if you go Ecclesitheurge of Evil or Death Primary.

 

[ColonelTeacup]

Would necromancy be a viable specialization as a wizard?

It is, and can get pretty strong in the mid and late game. But it suffers in the early game.

If you are not married to the idea of Wizard, then Cleric Necromancer is probably more fun. Especially if you go Ecclesitheurge of Evil or Death Primary.

Unfortunately, I have bad experiences with priests and have no desire to be one.

 

[hell bovine]

can someone share a bit on usefulness of various skills?

made my midget archeologist, picked lore arcana over world and it feels like in first 2h of a game 1st isnt used while im failing 2nd in dialogues. Is arcana even useful for bard? Im max cha enchantment caster, rogue extra talents are used to pick those archery feats.
Now I'm thinking about starting over with higher int(after lvling up and realizing difference between 12 and 14), potentially human to have both lores. Would be helpful if someone could shed some light, preferably on all the skills. I'll have in my party another bard npc, barbarian girl and oldman cleric.

extra question: how useful hiding is? Is there any point in game where I need to disarm traps while in shadows? If so can I get away with single point and spell boost?

Stealth checks are used in camping for camouflage and I think also evading the enemy ambushes on the world map. As for skills in general, unless you want to be the skill monkey in your party (in which case human is indeed best), you don't lose much by having only one knowledge on your bard. Arcana is used more later in game, mostly in dungeon crawling, so it fits an archeologist from a roleplaying point of view.

What you really want to have as high as possible is persuasion, because both the dc checks and xp rewards baloon very high later on. Not even bosses give as much xp.
The other skill you want sky high, though a companion can cover that one, is perception. With these checks if you miss something you won't even know there was a failed check.

 

[ArchAngel]

Dear lord. Everytime I watch somebody play this game I see them grabbing every piece of armor they find and then wonder why they need to waste time and rest so often.

Half the people I watched don't even know what to do with spell memorization. They don't even check spellbook or fill new spells when they level up.
And UI things like the little arrow that lets you turn spells into healing is lost on them.

 

[Lhynn]

To avoid encounters In the world map you use knowledge nature. Actually nature is probably the single most important and checked skill in the game. Early game for sure.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Sharpedge]

The new companion (Ksomethingoranother) is very good for skill checks. She is basically 2 companions occupying 1 slot. It objectively makes her 1 of the best takes for force completing skill checks. Even more so since her class gets feat bloat due to acquiring extra feats from the class itself, effectively allowing you to stack up on skill focus feats.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Get Arch to level 5 and get the +2 Luck bonus to everything, then maybe multiclass. It's a very useful bonus ability.

 

[Nirvash]

The other skill you want sky high, though a companion can cover that one, is perception. With these checks if you miss something you won't even know there was a failed check.

Hell no.

There are percepition checks everywhere, there are more percepition checks than all other checks combined, most locations are full of secret items under high percepition checks.

And percepition checks are made BY ALL characters, a single percepition grunt rolling low will make you miss alot of stuff and can really be a problem with traps. (the debuff traps later on are a huge pain in the ass)

 

[Seari]

I was also thinking of playing an archeologist but it seems that lingering performance is bugged and doesn't work with archeologist's luck so screw that.

 

[Yosharian]

Archeologist sucks

 

[Sykar]

Does anyone know if spell like abilities like those from Aasimar and Tiefling profit from spell focus?

 

[Sykar]

Good to know then choosing a race and feats to incorporate the special ability falls completely on its face except in some special circumstances I guess.