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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

Grunker

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the others in the party killed stuff too quick

The real problem here IMO. It's a testament to how skewered the offense vs. defense of the OGL is that even with MASSIVELY buffed defensive stats on the enemy attacks are just completely overwhelming. Combat is over before it beings most encounters so the higher level you get the less the game takes advantage of its wealth of spells and abilities.
 

Yosharian

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I'm loving the game and have had to spend alot of time nailing down the mechanics and complexity of the game except with one problem.

For the life of me I just cannot figure out how to play Regongar properly and I've even run out of quick buttons for his skills. I'm lv13 and I still don't know how to use him properly. Can anyone explain how I'm meant to play an eldrich scion?
What exactly are you having trouble with?

For example the whole one handed weapon thing. Does it have to be an agile weapon to count? It seems like he's holding his longsword with 2 hands from the damage bonus from strength. And also I don't quite understand the spellstrike concept, I understand him charging up his touch spell and landing it simultaenously with his sword, but haven't quite worked out what his other ability actually really does. And then also I just got an ability that allows me to spend 2 points to resolve all attacks this round as touch spells and I don't know what that means.
No, just a one-handed weapon.

Spellstrike grants you an additional melee attack when you use a touch spell in combat. It replaces the touch spell's normal touch attack.

Spell combat just allows you to cast a spell and also make your iterative attacks. It's a bit like having two actions per turn, instead of the usual one - one of them used to cast a spell, the other used to make the iterative attacks. Normally, you can't do both these actions in a turn.

The ability that allows you to resolve attacks as touch attack is one of your Arcane Pool abilities (called Magus Arcana). You have a special reserve of energy called your Arcane Pool. When you cast a Magus Arcana (such as Dimension Strike), you get a bonus, but it drains your Arcane Pool. You also start with a basic Magus Arcana ability that boosts the power of your weapon, so you don't have to get abilities like Dimension Strike if you don't want. You can just get ones that boost your basic Arcane Pool ability, like Enduring Blade (makes it last longer).

To address what 'resolving attacks as touch attack' means: normally when you attack you roll to hit the opponent's AC. But touch attacks roll to hit a different kind of number: the opponent's touch AC. Visualise this as follows: a touch attack only has to touch the enemy to be effective, whereas a normal attack has to touch the enemy AND pierce his armor/hide. So touch attacks are much easier to hit the enemy with, cos you literally only have to touch them. For some enemies, their touch AC is WAY lower than their normal AC. For others, not so much. It depends on how 'agile' they are.
 

cr0mag

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Thanks guys, that stuff is really helpful. I just managed to dimension door thru to the lich and spam heal on him until he died lol at lv13. And glitch my cat thru the shield door so I could actually escape, brought back the old school RPG feels doing that.

Now I really wished I put reg into using duelling swords with that sweet lich loot. Yeah the charge up a touch spell then crawl over manoeuvre he does is very silly and it's annoying having to micromanage him to the point where the other 5 combined use less time. The micro on the undead elf is pretty annoying too but more user friendly
 

Haplo

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Touch AC ignores all armor AC, shield AC and thick skin (natural armor AC).
 

Haplo

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Well, don't know about that. But Tower Shield Specialist gets such an ability at level 9.
 

ArchAngel

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I know there is no such thing in the game but I would like to have something like that :D
 

ArchAngel

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So has anyone imported their DLC run into main campaign? Do we finally know what does main campaign get from DLC?
 

Jarpie

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After the Varnhold Vanishing, is there a specific order I should do things?
 

Kem0sabe

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Finished the dlc, was shorter than I expected, very small number of maps, and one big dungeon, ridiculously linear as well...

Positives:

Dungeon, it was large with a ton of hard encounters... Fucking fey.

The inn with the couple and their son was fun, if small, discover clues, pass a few skill checks.

Negatives:

You don't get to see any resolution to your decisions.

Linear, go in straight line, no control.

Story and characters were shit.

Ending was beyond terrible, no resolution... I hope this shit sorts itself out in the main campaign.
 

Jarpie

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Wat, characters were shit? Cephal's bro, huge shame that he doesn't survive, would rather have him as my wizard than Thotctavia. I appropriated his voice set for my tiefling, as it's better than any of the ones you can choose in character creator. I'd take his portrait too, but doesn't fit tieflings.
 
The Real Fanboy
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Hi everyone, field hockey practice was cancelled so I've finally installed Kingmaker but I'm really confused by character creation lol. How do you make a barbarian/paladin? That's my favorite kind of heroine to play (I love being fierce but heroic)!

Thanks for any help! The only thing I know about pathfinder is Critical Role played it before switching to dungeons and dragons for the first campaign!
 

Haplo

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Well it's not possible here due to alignment conflict, as I'm sure you're aware.
 
The Real Fanboy
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I'm kind of a beginner when it comes to dungeons and dragons rules stuff, I prefer playing sports in school! I only watch Critical Role and alignment doesn't seem to do anything there except that time Laura kept stealing stuff as Vex and got an alignment shift to chaotic neutral?

BTW which paladin god is the closest to Woedica in pathfinder, sis?
 

jungl

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one thing i didn't about this game is how they did magic items. Some are hard to find like bastard swords and the developers randomly making certain ones ridiculously op like that greataxe that does +10 extra damage best 2hander in game by far. They should of had crafting in the game and let us break down those op items and put their stats into other stuff or actually make it balanced like Neverwinter nights 2 magic items and crafting. Pillars 2 same shit with there being literally no battle axes in the game except one in island to the north and pre order one.

Thats why these games need a respec option. It makes sense, what retard can't abandon using a weapon they proficient with and pick up another one to become proficient in? Especially if this a high level almost godlike being.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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All Paladins in DnD need to be Lawfull Good.

So gods that don't fit 100% in that good girl lewk don't have paladins? That's soo dumb

Thanks for the help tho, guess I'll just create a barbarian and pretend to be a fierce Steel Garrote princess!
Dude, it's 2019. This "roleplaying an inane persona on an internet forum is such a hilarious idea and nice way to spend one's time" was a thing 15 years ago. And it's not like you're particularly good at it anyway.
 

Simple Simon

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I'm kind of a beginner when it comes to dungeons and dragons rules stuff, I prefer playing sports in school! I only watch Critical Role and alignment doesn't seem to do anything there except that time Laura kept stealing stuff as Vex and got an alignment shift to chaotic neutral?

BTW which paladin god is the closest to Woedica in pathfinder, sis?

I'd say Asmodeus is probably closest to Woedica. He is the god/archdevil of contracts (especially unfair contracts), tyrants, and slavers. He kind of holds a unique position in that some of the less Evil-aligned divinities occasionally cooperate with him.
 

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