Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Jenkem]

better to start varnhold's lot after troll trouble or season of the bloom?

 

[Roguey]

Hi everyone, field hockey practice was cancelled so I've finally installed Kingmaker but I'm really confused by character creation lol. How do you make a barbarian/paladin? That's my favorite kind of heroine to play (I love being fierce but heroic)!

Thanks for any help! The only thing I know about pathfinder is Critical Role played it before switching to dungeons and dragons for the first campaign!

Field hockey, huh? Can you confirm you look like this? http://im.ziffdavisinternational.co...e-2015-cover-photos-and-pictures_2x9q.640.jpg

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Well I got around installing this instead of waiting for 1.3.

Spent 3 hour ish getting the feel of the game, starting new game today.

I am planning to make Scaled Fist - Sorcerer multiclass due to Charisma bonus to AC on Scaled Fist. Kinda simplistic, but I have little experience with DnD and am not much of a munchkin.

I will start on Challenging I guess, let see if it is hard enough

 

[Fenix]

Did she hold this wooden thing because she used it for putting it inside her or something?

 

[Yosharian]

Well I got around installing this instead of waiting for 1.3.

Spent 3 hour ish getting the feel of the game, starting new game today.

I am planning to make Scaled Fist - Sorcerer multiclass due to Charisma bonus to AC on Scaled Fist. Kinda simplistic, but I have little experience with DnD and am not much of a munchkin.

I will start on Challenging I guess, let see if it is hard enough

Having Monk AC on a caster character is useful, but you should consider carefully if it's important for the character to have that extra 5-8 AC. Casters tend to have rather weak AC and few HP, so they aren't very good at taking hits in melee. Rather, the methods they use to survive attacks tend to be spells such as Invisibility or Displacement, teleporting away from danger (e.g. Dimension Door), Stoneskin, and so on.

Meanwhile, the loss of one spellcasting level is significant for Sorcerers, who are always behind on spell progression compared to Wizards in any case.

I would recommend that you rethink the Scaled Fist dip in favour of keeping your Sorcerer pure - assuming you want to be a caster, that is. That said, it's your character, so do whatever you like. It's certainly not a bad choice. It's just that you might end up never utilizing that extra AC effectively.

 

[Sykar]

Well I got around installing this instead of waiting for 1.3.

Spent 3 hour ish getting the feel of the game, starting new game today.

I am planning to make Scaled Fist - Sorcerer multiclass due to Charisma bonus to AC on Scaled Fist. Kinda simplistic, but I have little experience with DnD and am not much of a munchkin.

I will start on Challenging I guess, let see if it is hard enough

My advice, take either and dip in Dragon Disciple instead, just make sure you have a high strength score and decent dex/con to survive in melee as a Sorc/DD melee. Int and Wis are not that important for a Sorcerer/DD melee hybrid. Alternatively you can take Magus/Eldritch Scion to have a sort of hybrid between the two from the get go, check out Regongar to get an idea what that class is about. That one can also make an effective DD.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Eh the main class was more of Monk rather than the Sorcerer in my plan.

Basically my line of thinking is to utilize mostly self buffs for the Scaled Fist.

I am planning to take Sylvian Sorcerer on Level 2 (or Scaled Fist at level 2 if I take Sorcerer at Level 1) for Mage Armor and the animal companion which should be useful early to take out pesky archers and wizards.

I've yet to plan very far on the build though. Sykar what does Dragon Disciple do?

 

[Yosharian]

Eh the main class was more of Monk rather than the Sorcerer in my plan.

Basically my line of thinking is to utilize mostly self buffs for the Scaled Fist.

I am planning to take Sylvian Sorcerer on Level 2 (or Scaled Fist at level 2 if I take Sorcerer at Level 1) for Mage Armor and the animal companion which should be useful early to take out pesky archers and wizards.

I've yet to plan very far on the build though. Sykar what does Dragon Disciple do?

Oh well in that case, go for it.

DD offers quite a few stat boosts.

Eldritch Scion is better than Sorc in my opinion, but it's all good.

 

[Urthor]

"oh Kingmaker is 1.25 now maybe I should pla-"

"wait it's Kingmaker, give it another year before it's actually bug free"

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Eh the main class was more of Monk rather than the Sorcerer in my plan.

Basically my line of thinking is to utilize mostly self buffs for the Scaled Fist.

I am planning to take Sylvian Sorcerer on Level 2 (or Scaled Fist at level 2 if I take Sorcerer at Level 1) for Mage Armor and the animal companion which should be useful early to take out pesky archers and wizards.

I've yet to plan very far on the build though. Sykar what does Dragon Disciple do?

Oh well in that case, go for it.

DD offers quite a few stat boosts.

Eldritch Scion is better than Sorc in my opinion, but it's all good.

If I am a completionist who will explore around the world whats the Max level attainable in the game? Is it 20? Or is level 20 the hard cap as in you cant get more than 20 total character level?

 

[Yosharian]

Eh the main class was more of Monk rather than the Sorcerer in my plan.

Basically my line of thinking is to utilize mostly self buffs for the Scaled Fist.

I am planning to take Sylvian Sorcerer on Level 2 (or Scaled Fist at level 2 if I take Sorcerer at Level 1) for Mage Armor and the animal companion which should be useful early to take out pesky archers and wizards.

I've yet to plan very far on the build though. Sykar what does Dragon Disciple do?

Oh well in that case, go for it.

DD offers quite a few stat boosts.

Eldritch Scion is better than Sorc in my opinion, but it's all good.

If I am a completionist who will explore around the world whats the Max level attainable in the game? Is it 20? Or is level 20 the hard cap as in you cant get more than 20 total character level?

Some players have reached 19 I think?

 

[Daidre]

Someone here wrote that he hit lvl 20 in last chapter with full party and without XP manipulations with game settings.

 

[Yosharian]

Someone here wrote that he hit lvl 20 in last chapter with full party and without XP manipulations with game settings.

Ooh neat.

 

[Incendax]

BTW which paladin god is the closest to Woedica in pathfinder, sis?

Woedica would probably share some similarities with Asmodeus, as another poster mentioned. The big difference is that Asmodeus is a cool and collected super lawyer, while Woedica is a bitter child. Neither of them qualify someone to be a Paladin in this system, since paladins are about truth, justice, and the genocide way (Lawful Good).

 

[Haplo]

Damn. Hit Chapter V Rushlight Tournament. And I still have so much to do! Quest for Kaessi, Jubilost, actually explore most of Glenebon.
Also lots of Kingdom Rank ups. Have Stability at II, Espionage and Culture probably about III and others between V and IX. Just recently did the halve Rank Up time project...
Not to mention a few Regional Upgrades. I don't even know how its possible to ALSO research all the curses.

And I guess hitting Chapter V means I'm running out of time... Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of breathing space between Act IV and V? Was some measly 2 months in my case I guess.

 

[axedice]

If I am a completionist who will explore around the world whats the Max level attainable in the game? Is it 20? Or is level 20 the hard cap as in you cant get more than 20 total character level?

I reached lvl20 with full party without any xp gimmicks but persuasion, a few trash packs before the end boss. But I had 50+ Persuasion (60 max possible if combined with food skillcheck bonus and the book - I also took all 3 persuasion feats along the way) and always went the diplomatic way when possible.

The thing with persuasion is, it has the highest amount of 40+ DC skill checks you find late game, each of them gives 40-60k xp. Convince or bluff your way through quests and you get atleast 1 level out of it.

I also didn't dimension door through the lich's door and opened it legit, visiting every location and killing every mob. High perception helps with that a lot, I found every location on the map without the projects from a few nodes away.

Btw there is no hardcap, you continue to gain xp beyond 20 so maaaybe they'll introduce epic levels with endless dungeon.

 

[Daidre]

And I guess hitting Chapter V means I'm running out of time... Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of breathing space between Act IV and V? Was some measly 2 months in my case I guess.

There should be some free time between Pitax and barbarians if you dealt with them fast enough. Still, you get huge amount of free time between Bald Hill 5 and 6, and even longer before 7 (together it is 1,5 - 2 years). It is usually enough to look under every stone on world map, raise all kingdoms stats to X and upgrade all regions (I had 70 days to skip with 1-day button after running out of week-long upgrades).

 

[axedice]

Have Stability at II, Espionage and Culture probably about III and others between V and IX. Just recently did the halve Rank Up time project...
Not to mention a few Regional Upgrades. I don't even know how its possible to ALSO research all the curses.

You should balance your ranks and not leave certain ones far too behind, they give buildings and bonuses etc. Also the low-lvl advisors are going to be too weak for endgame cards. IIRC I had 6-7 on nearly all scores before Pitax and was able to rank everyone to 10 a few months before ch6. The longest wait time is between those chapters.

For curses I always used my arcane advisor if possible. There are many divine only events, but very few arcane only events.

Unless you're targetting for certain bouses, regional upgrades can be done after all ranks are 10. You should have plenty of time for them.

 

[Daidre]

I am yet to find definite info, but your kingdom ranks also affect your chances to get corresponding Masterpiece bound to this stat in most mysterious ways. So having some stat low (2-5) until end game you can lower your chances to see this item to almost 0.
I try to get everything to 7-8 asap.

 

[Haplo]

Here are the details regarding Artisan tier unlock triggers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/comments/anucgk/artisans/

Partly why I've diversified the ranks so much is focusing on stats preferred by my favorite Artisans: Sahiya and Nazrielle.

Kind of succeeded with Sahiya, as I got her Mastery fauchard still in Act IV.

 

[Haplo]

Unless you're targetting for certain bouses, regional upgrades can be done after all ranks are 10. You should have plenty of time for them.

I'd not leave the Regional Upgrades till the very end, as having them in artisan regions is also an unlock condition for Artisan Tiers (but there are more triggers then tiers, so its possible not to do everything and still get the masterpiece/best stuff).
And actually no Artisan requires any stat to be at X (some at IX, mostly VIII).

 

[Daidre]

Thanks a lot! I have seen info that even when you meet conditions for masterpiece start it is still a dice roll but not this post.
4 complete runs and all masterpieces achieve still avoids me( Mostly because every patch Bokken was new flavor of bugged.

 

[Haplo]

And I guess hitting Chapter V means I'm running out of time... Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of breathing space between Act IV and V? Was some measly 2 months in my case I guess.

There should be some free time between Pitax and barbarians if you dealt with them fast enough. Still, you get huge amount of free time between Bald Hill 5 and 6, and even longer before 7 (together it is 1,5 - 2 years). It is usually enough to look under every stone on world map, raise all kingdoms stats to X and upgrade all regions (I had 70 days to skip with 1-day button after running out of week-long upgrades).

Did not feel there was a lot of time before Ancient Curse Part VI. But thank you for giving me hope there is still some considerable time before Part VII and end game.

 

[Gord]

What's the prerequisite to unlock certain advisors, anyway?
I'm right between chapter IV and V and still don't have an arcane advisor...
(I do have Bartholomew Delgado in my Throne Room and could make him Economic advisor, but Jubilost is doing good at it)

 

[Haplo]

Getting Primary Stat to at least 60 and Rank III. In order to unlock Arcane, you need to first improve Divine.