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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

Yosharian

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Just buy a couple of bags of holding from vendors and you'll be fine?
early game + compulsive looter behavior: they see a piece of wood that weighs 150 pounds and sells for half a gold, they gotta loot it
Not gonna lie I suffer from the same problems. Generally as long as I only pick up masterwork or magical items I've found I'm OK. The one exception was doing Vordakai's Tomb, there are no vendors on that half of the map so I ended up with nearly 4000lbs of gear

Luckily my three animal companions provide such insane carry capacity that I actually managed to stay out of heavy encumbrance, though I eventually had to stop picking up some masterwork stuff

I guess if you're not using any pets then encumbrance might be an issue, I dunno
 

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Guys, remind me, are there any good spears in Kingmaker? Got a fighter I'll be taking the first Weapons Training in Large Blades, but for the second I'm hedging between something with spears or maces. I'd like to go with spears for fun, and I'd especially like a Longspear for the reach, but I know there are some excellent maces in the game and plenty of skellies to apply them to...
 

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Guys, remind me, are there any good spears in Kingmaker? Got a fighter I'll be taking the first Weapons Training in Large Blades, but for the second I'm hedging between something with spears or maces. I'd like to go with spears for fun, and I'd especially like a Longspear for the reach, but I know there are some excellent maces in the game and plenty of skellies to apply them to...

Umm, why should you care about skellies? Their warriors have like 5 DR/bludge, which is nothing (a non issue by level 3 or so). And I think they are like the only enemies where a bludgeon would slightly help. And there aren't many of them.

Forget spears, forget maces. If you want a reach weapon, a fauchard is your best bet. Though a Glaive or Bardiche might be passable, if you don't want to use the feat.
 

Yosharian

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Guys, remind me, are there any good spears in Kingmaker? Got a fighter I'll be taking the first Weapons Training in Large Blades, but for the second I'm hedging between something with spears or maces. I'd like to go with spears for fun, and I'd especially like a Longspear for the reach, but I know there are some excellent maces in the game and plenty of skellies to apply them to...
There's like, one slightly above average one. Pretty bad selection overall.
 

Yosharian

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Guys, remind me, are there any good spears in Kingmaker? Got a fighter I'll be taking the first Weapons Training in Large Blades, but for the second I'm hedging between something with spears or maces. I'd like to go with spears for fun, and I'd especially like a Longspear for the reach, but I know there are some excellent maces in the game and plenty of skellies to apply them to...

Umm, why should you care about skellies? Their warriors have like 5 DR/bludge, which is nothing (a non issue by level 3 or so). And I think they are like the only enemies where a bludgeon would slightly help. And there aren't many of them.

Forget spears, forget maces. If you want a reach weapon, a fauchard is your best bet. Though a Glaive or Bardiche might be passable, if you don't want to use the feat.
Yeah typed DR is a major fail in Pathfinder honestly. It could have been a major contributing factor to weapon variety but instead it ends up being trivial.

You just go for base damage and crit range.

And also you look at the weapon enchantments of course
 

Gargaune

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Umm, why should you care about skellies? Their warriors have like 5 DR/bludge, which is nothing (a non issue by level 3 or so). And I think they are like the only enemies where a bludgeon would slightly help. And there aren't many of them.

Forget spears, forget maces. If you want a reach weapon, a fauchard is your best bet. Though a Glaive or Bardiche might be passable, if you don't want to use the feat.

There's like, one slightly above average one. Pretty bad selection overall.
Thanks, maybe not worth it then. I don't recall anymore, but I think all of these, Glaive, Bardiche and Fauchard, should fall under the same Weapons Training group. Maybe not Longspear, I'll have to see when I get the feat.

P.S. Regarding maces, I recall there being a couple of really nice ones you come across easily. A +2 with Freedom from Hragulka, and an evil +4 one later on in Pitax.
 

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Where the fuck is Hairsplitter? I've been using a masterwork estoc for well over 2 chapters now Goddamn it.
 

Parabalus

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If you choose Vordakai, do you just miss out on all the imported Varnhold's Lot items?

Any straightforward way to work around this?

Not just adding the items, but visiting Lostlarn too.

Can confirm you can get the items from the merchant when getting your throne back, so a bit later, and without visiting Lostlarn. And he sits at the ravine area west of pitax.
 
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rojay

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There are fairly late game versions of both Glaive and Bardiche that are among the best weapons in the game.
 

Yosharian

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Umm, why should you care about skellies? Their warriors have like 5 DR/bludge, which is nothing (a non issue by level 3 or so). And I think they are like the only enemies where a bludgeon would slightly help. And there aren't many of them.

Forget spears, forget maces. If you want a reach weapon, a fauchard is your best bet. Though a Glaive or Bardiche might be passable, if you don't want to use the feat.

There's like, one slightly above average one. Pretty bad selection overall.
Thanks, maybe not worth it then. I don't recall anymore, but I think all of these, Glaive, Bardiche and Fauchard, should fall under the same Weapons Training group. Maybe not Longspear, I'll have to see when I get the feat.

P.S. Regarding maces, I recall there being a couple of really nice ones you come across easily. A +2 with Freedom from Hragulka, and an evil +4 one later on in Pitax.
Serpent Prince (Fauchard) is one of the best weapons in the game. Better if you're using Craft Magic Items and can make it a +5 weapon.

There's a very good Bardiche but it's a little late in the game.

The best Glaive is good against Evil enemies mostly, it's pretty good though - again quite a late one.
 

Gargaune

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Serpent Prince (Fauchard) is one of the best weapons in the game. Better if you're using Craft Magic Items and can make it a +5 weapon.

There's a very good Bardiche but it's a little late in the game.

The best Glaive is good against Evil enemies mostly, it's pretty good though - again quite a late one.
Cheers. In the long run, I'll be going for the Thundering Claw of the Bear God scimitar as a main, but I'll have to see if I can spare a feat for Fauchard. If not, will stick to Glaive or Bardiche. I'm really curious to see how Reach weapons handle in PFKM TB, seeing as I had a lot of fun with a Glaive in ToEE.
 

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Serpent Prince (Fauchard) is one of the best weapons in the game. Better if you're using Craft Magic Items and can make it a +5 weapon.

There's a very good Bardiche but it's a little late in the game.

The best Glaive is good against Evil enemies mostly, it's pretty good though - again quite a late one.
Cheers. In the long run, I'll be going for the Thundering Claw of the Bear God scimitar as a main, but I'll have to see if I can spare a feat for Fauchard. If not, will stick to Glaive or Bardiche. I'm really curious to see how Reach weapons handle in PFKM TB, seeing as I had a lot of fun with a Glaive in ToEE.

They're extremely good, especially enlarged, to the point where non-reach feels lame.
 

Gargaune

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They're extremely good, especially enlarged, to the point where non-reach feels lame.
That's encouraging. I wasn't planning on a new Fighter campaign, but I came upon this portrait that was practically begging for it. Dialogue's already paying dividends...

youdontsay.jpg
 
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Gargaune I can certainly advocate for polearms. I used Fauchards on my slayer, and it was glorious. AoO and sneak attacks all over the battlefield. Worked well for combat maneuvers too.

NOTE: Pretty much any worthy fauchard is gated behind kingdom artisans. If you want them, you need to be proactive with getting your exotic artisan in order ASAP. If you do things correctly, you'll get one by chapter 3. Prior to that, it's probably going to be a particular +2 flaming glaive. Plan accordingly.
 

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The extent to which the ranged AI focuses low AC chars is hilarious - they will go after characters 4 screens away behind locked doors.
 

Gargaune

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Gargaune I can certainly advocate for polearms. I used Fauchards on my slayer, and it was glorious. AoO and sneak attacks all over the battlefield. Worked well for combat maneuvers too.

NOTE: Pretty much any worthy fauchard is gated behind kingdom artisans. If you want them, you need to be proactive with getting your exotic artisan in order ASAP. If you do things correctly, you'll get one by chapter 3. Prior to that, it's probably going to be a particular +2 flaming glaive. Plan accordingly.
Will keep it in mind, thanks. On a tangent, this is one of those things I really like about the game - it's byzantine enough that it's easy to forget who and what when you replay a few months apart.
 
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They're extremely good, especially enlarged, to the point where non-reach feels lame.
That's encouraging. I wasn't planning on a new Fighter campaign, but I came upon this portrait that was practically begging for it. Dialogue's already paying dividends...

youdontsay.jpg
That portrait looks awesome, can i get the source on it? I'm not getting any luck looking for it.
 

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Grab the Codex by the pussy Strap Yourselves In Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Thought Vladislav was supposed to be a parody of Slavic names, looked it up and apparently it's real and the name of a few kings. Wow.
 

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