Game News Pathfinder: Kingmaker now on Kickstarter

[gallandr0]

What is with the multiple typos and broken english in the graphics with baked in typing?

Spoiler

 

[InspectorRumpole]

Fuck bitching about the art style, it's perfectly adequate.

Backed, in hopes of a fun game with interesting mechanics.

 

[Bumvelcrow]

Backed, in hopes of a fun game with interesting mechanics.

It's RTwP, but at least we can hope for the former. I liked 3.5 edition rules, so I'm hopeful that it'll at least feel a bit like Pathfinder. $25 for about 40 hours of moderate entertainment is a risk I'm willing to take.

 

[sstacks]

*rewrites headline as "To the shock of no one, Pathmaker Kingfinder is on Kickstarter"

They may need the money for expanded gameplay, but note that the game will be made either way. A lot of this is for PR, which bugs me when KS is used that way... it crowds out projects that can't get made without KS.

 

[J_C]

Despite the quick depletion of the Early Bird tiers, the campaign doesn't seem to be exactly booming. Maybe after the mainstream press has noticed.

It is not doing worse than Gollop's Phoenix Whatever kickstarter and they managed to fund their game as well. The kickstarter is almost at 150K already, they will manage it.

Just how involved is MCA in this project exactly? Is he just writing 2 companions and some quests or is he actually doing something substantial this time around?

Well being a narrative director implies that he is coordinating everything which is about story and narrative.

 

[Shin]

poor guy

i hope he finds a place to rest some day. a place to call his own.

 

[Rhuantavan]

Oh, it's one of THOSE RPGs again.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

Is he blind?

no he is high as fuck on opiates

edit: Okay I don't know it for a fact obviously, its just an educated guess.

Also I could give a fuck- I don't care what people do with their own bodies, and I believe drugs should be legal. I am even am opposed to most prescription laws, so its not a moral statement on my part to make the guess I made.

I wish the guy well, and will be buying the game. I think it is likely to be more fun the PoE because of the combat. I hope the other kingmaker stuff is fun, although I don't have high hopes for it. As long as the combat is good and the itemization decent, I think the game could be one of the better if kickstarter RPG's, not that it is much of a contest. Anything more than that and I will be very happy.

 

[FeelTheRads]

I said this won't get to 2 million but as it is even 1 million is too much.

lul, seems like not even Avellone can help when you're selling Generic: The Sunday Morning Cartoon.

 

[ArchAngel]

*rewrites headline as "To the shock of no one, Pathmaker Kingfinder is on Kickstarter"

They may need the money for expanded gameplay, but note that the game will be made either way. A lot of this is for PR, which bugs me when KS is used that way... it crowds out projects that can't get made without KS.

I wonder if you said that during D:OS2 KS or Shadowrun:HK KS or Battletech KS...

 

[Pirata Alma Negra]

Apparently a lot of people now hate D:OS.

I at least always hated.

 

[MicoSelva]

That isometric looks an awful lot like Baldur's Gate (with PoE interface). Too similar, in fact. I suspect I am being baited. I mean look at those 'move here' marks on the ground. Seeing those makes me want to roam The Sword Coast again right now!

Btw, do we have any kickstarted adventure or rpg so far that didn't end up as a either a massive disappointment or vaporware?

Shadowrun Returns and (especially) Dragonfall were good.
D:OS is awesome, even though the story is pretty bad. I suggest playing it in co-op, where the story does not matter that much.
I have not played Thimbleweed Park, but all opinions I have seen (and that I trust) have been positive.
Pillars of Eternity has only been disappointing for me due to massive expectations - it is a decent game overall (I am yet to play The White march, supposedly it is better than the original campaign).
Also, Undertale.

They may need the money for expanded gameplay, but note that the game will be made either way. A lot of this is for PR, which bugs me when KS is used that way... it crowds out projects that can't get made without KS.

D:OS 2 and Banner Saga 3 used Kickstarter for PR reasons too. Since Kickstarter allows it, I do not see a reason why people would not use the platform this way.

 

[ArchAngel]

That isometric looks an awful lot like Baldur's Gate (with PoE interface). Too similar, in fact. I suspect I am being baited. I mean look at those 'move here' marks on the ground. Seeing those makes me want to roam The Sword Coast again right now!

Yes it does look a lot like BG which is probably what they were aiming for. And in KS comments they said the camera is fixed (like IE games).
Also in that gif you can notice how the group does not move like robots (a tiny complaint PoE received by some people here).

 

[InspectorRumpole]

Backed, in hopes of a fun game with interesting mechanics.

It's RTwP, but at least we can hope for the former. I liked 3.5 edition rules, so I'm hopeful that it'll at least feel a bit like Pathfinder. $25 for about 40 hours of moderate entertainment is a risk I'm willing to take.

I find the kingdom management intriguing, and I hope it's done right, and not merely as a gimmick as seen in other games *coughPoE*

I prefer TB of course, but I can overlook that if the other aspects of the game are strong. I did with BG etc.

 

[you know what time it is]

So dudes with a good track record are making BG-like with Avellone on board and codex is... butthurt?

 

[Infinitron]

the story and quests have been expanded by RPG writer Chris Avellone

Having MCA write a couple of npcs and quests isn't enough to save a game, as POE has shown well enough. A game where he was lead designer or at least lead writer would be a different story.

This isn't the same situation. By "expanding story and quests", they don't mean that he's adding some of his writing to a CRPG primarily written by other CRPG writers. He's expanding the PnP module that they're adapting, apparently as the lead writer.

I don't think it's sunk in with some people that this is a PnP module adaptation. It's like if Avellone was the lead writer for TTOEE.

 

[Wonderdog]

I don't think it's sunk in with some people that this is a PnP module adaptation. It's like if Avellone was the lead writer for TTOEE.

That was the main reason that game failed unfortunately. Modules are not easy to translate into a computer game.

 

[ArchAngel]

So dudes with a good track record are making BG-like with Avellone on board and codex is... butthurt?

And it will have Metamagic, that is already more game mechanics than PoE.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Btw, do we have any kickstarted adventure or rpg so far that didn't end up as a either a massive disappointment or vaporware?

Tex Murphy: Tesla Effect
Pillars of Eternity
Shadowrun: Dragonfall (spun out of a DLC for a Kickstarter RPG, so it counts)
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
The Banner Saga
Divinity: Original Sin

Grim Dawn was well received by ARPG fans. Also, think Broken Sword 5 was well received by fans after both parts were released but I haven't played it.

 

[Wonderdog]

Btw, do we have any kickstarted adventure or rpg so far that didn't end up as a either a massive disappointment or vaporware?

Tex Murphy: Tesla Effect
Pillars of Eternity
Shadowrun: Dragonfall (spun out of a DLC for a Kickstarter RPG, so it counts)
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
The Banner Saga
Divinity: Original Sin

Grim Dawn was well received by ARPG fans. Also, think Broken Sword 5 was well received by fans after both parts were released but I haven't played it.

 

[Severian Silk]

Is that Chubby Putin on the far right?

 

[Fireblade]

Btw, do we have any kickstarted adventure or rpg so far that didn't end up as a either a massive disappointment or vaporware?

Underrail or Grimrock weren't crowd-funded so no, I'm afraid not. KS is just a nest of superficial mediocrity and naive optimism.

Underrail opened up pre-orders 3 years in advance of release, to raise funds. Pretty much the same thing as crowd-funding in practice, although it was more of a D:OS/D:OS2 style situation where the game was going to happen either way, just enabled improvements. Obviously it wasn't on KS specifically, though.

 

[Rev]

I said this won't get to 2 million but as it is even 1 million is too much.

lul, seems like not even Avellone can help when you're selling Generic: The Sunday Morning Cartoon.

Avellone has been on so many campaigns and games, and about half of those were lackluster (WL2, T:ToN, BG: SoD), that his presence doesn't mean very much today, so of course his name alone won't sell this game.

It will reach at least its initial goal anyway, but I don't think it will get much more than that (maybe 700-800k).

 

[luj1]

That isometric looks an awful lot like Baldur's Gate (with PoE interface). Too similar, in fact. I suspect I am being baited. I mean look at those 'move here' marks on the ground.

They're blatantly capitalizing off nostalgia. And that PoE interface is pure cancer. Enough signals for me to forget about this game.

 

[Dyspaire]

If there was a steady stream of IE-ish games that had tolerable combat (yes, even a decent RTwP system will do), that used long-established rule-systems and attempted to let me play through some good stories in familiar and comfortable settings, that would be just fine.