KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[toro]

Hargulka has permanent Free Action, he ignores web and slow.

The new Hargulka.

Spoiler

Thank God! he is optional.

 

[Reinhardt]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

 

[Lambach]

Guess it was the Stinking Cloud. At that point I had Greater Spell Focus in Conjuration and a +7 CHA modifier with Eagle's Splendor, I don't recall many enemies (or any, really) making more than one successful throw against it.

 

[toro]

I am starting to think I took a wrong turn.

I go to Oleg's, they tell me to follow the bandits. On the way, an old man tells me that Tartruffleo is in a tomb nearby. Okay, whatever- I go to the bandits and get an update, "Hell no, Tartuccle is probably long gone now!" Of course, not wanting to miss out, I reloaded and went to the tomb instead, thn chased after the gnome. I ended up in some forest where I tried to rest, but a spooky skull annihilated me, after a shambling mound annihilated me, which was right after some bandits with their necromancer annihilated me. Fortunately, I found some safety in the nearby kobold mines. Unfortunately they are full of spiders, which annihilate me.

Is it normal that you are meant to avoid like half the fights? Because the mines right now are like "Uh oh, there's murder skeletons in that corner, avoid. Oh, this corner? Gigantic centipedes, avoid. That corner? Massive spiders, maybe come back later."

Hopefully reaching level three will make us a little tougher. I wish we could rest but when I tried, I was interrupted while hunting three times in a row until the onslaught of lizards and wolves destroyed us completely.

Play the first chapter a couple of time. Trust me. You will learn a lot.

The difference between my first party and my current party is insane.

 

[toro]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

?? spoiler me please

 

[Shadenuat]

There is whole overarching plot with barbarianz. And Tristian.

 

[Reinhardt]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

??

Something happened during Vordakai fight, no?

 

[toro]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

??

Something happened during Vordakai fight, no?

Spoiler

I already did Tristian's quest. But chapter 5 is not about Tristian - that's a companion quest - while the main one is Armag against Restov (twice born something)

These two quests are triggered at the same time and it gives the impression that the Restov's one is urgent but it's not.

 

[vazha]

Hargulka has permanent Free Action, he ignores web and slow.

The new Halgulka.

Spoiler

Thank God! he is optional.

Oh web & entangle combo takes care of that guy + his minions can get in his way so you have more than enough time to pelt him with octavia's rays and some Bam Bam arrows. Also, iirc delay poison helps with stinking cloud. Obviously if you engage him in melee, no matter how tanky you are he'll rape you. And ofc he will one-hit Amiri )))

 

[Reinhardt]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

??

Something happened during Vordakai fight, no?

Spoiler

I already did Tristian's quest. But chapter 5 is not about Tristian - that's a companion quest - while the main one is Armag against Restov (twice born something)

These two quests are triggered at the same time and it gives the impression that the Restov's one is urgent but it's not.

If you do his quest before barbarians - barbarian quest changes. It's same thing like with Tartuccio or bandits.

 

[vazha]

Not at such early levels. Armag comes to mind, he will land Crits for 100+ damage even if you have 6 gorillion AC

How?

 

[Andnjord]

Since the endgame is currently so...leaky, I've decided to try a little experiment: full custom characters, party of four, Shared XP off. Just finished Troll King
Made a FUN party because why not, I wanted to try some different classes.
First comes Justinian, Paladin, the Party Leader, Glaive Wielder, Two-Handed diplomat.
His Protector Belisarius, Divine Guardian tank and shield basher.
His wife, Theodora, scroll savant (since I have a limited party size I thought I'd be able to get the most out of the consumables this way)
And finally Irene, Tactical Leader Inquisitor, party buffer, skills bot and surprisingly decent archer.

Having a smaller party is quite fun, it feels harder during the longer slogs, but things are getting easier now that the party is gaining in levels over the normal curve during boss fights. For example, they dinged level 8 just before meeting Troll king (in my two earlier playthrough I was only level 6) and the result wasn't pretty...

Spoiler

Hargulka took a Crushing Despair to the face while two angry paladins smote the evil out of his flat-footed ass in a couple of rounds while Tartuk got out of Hold person only in time to see the two paladins charging him through a fire wall. Not a single point of damage was suffered in the encounter.

 

[Parabalus]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

??

Something happened during Vordakai fight, no?

Spoiler

I already did Tristian's quest. But chapter 5 is not about Tristian - that's a companion quest - while the main one is Armag against Restov (twice born something)

These two quests are triggered at the same time and it gives the impression that the Restov's one is urgent but it's not.

I'm thinking about doing Armag's Tomb (doing the project RN) and leaving Betrayer's Flight for afterwards, estending as much as I can, is that viable? Shadenuat


Guess I fucked up and should have delayed before going to the tomb for a while.

 

[Lambach]

First comes Justinian, Paladin, the Party Leader, Glaive Wielder, Two-Handed diplomat.

Smart choice. The most powerful weapon I've found so far is a +5 Glaive that deals 2d6 Sonic damage on hit and lets you cast a 9th-level spell as a 17th level Wizard once a day. I found it as a (probably) random piece of loot in one of the dungeons in the Pitax area.

Generally speaking, the XP allocation, where I once got about 120000 motherfucking XP in a single conversation (beating two 45 DC speech checks), loot placement etc. are a complete mess later on, they would probably make Sawyer kill himself.

 

[toro]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

??

Something happened during Vordakai fight, no?

Spoiler

I already did Tristian's quest. But chapter 5 is not about Tristian - that's a companion quest - while the main one is Armag against Restov (twice born something)

These two quests are triggered at the same time and it gives the impression that the Restov's one is urgent but it's not.

If you do his quest before barbarians - barbarian quest changes. It's same thing like with Tartuccio or bandits.

Please spoiler me.

Spoiler

I already save Tristian, Nilak, Dugath and Ekun. What changes?

My order was: Barbarians -> Candlemere

 

[Andnjord]

but it looks like chapter 5 is triggered too soon

Nah, chapter 5 quests triggering right after Vordakai for a reason.

??

Something happened during Vordakai fight, no?

Spoiler

I already did Tristian's quest. But chapter 5 is not about Tristian - that's a companion quest - while the main one is Armag against Restov (twice born something)

These two quests are triggered at the same time and it gives the impression that the Restov's one is urgent but it's not.

I'm thinking about doing Armag's Tomb (doing the project RN) and leaving Betrayer's Flight for afterwards, estending as much as I can, is that viable? Shadenuat


Guess I fucked up and should have delayed before going to the tomb for a while.

Better to solve the the Tomb and the Betrayer's ASAP, you're gonna get a lot of free time afterwards, before the next round.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Well compared to DnD and NWN later levels need insane ammount of XP to reach 155 000 to level 11 for example.

 

[Andnjord]

Smart choice. The most powerful weapon I've found so far is a +5 Glaive that deals 2d6 Sonic damage on hit and let's you cast a 9th-level spell as a 17th level Wizard once a day. I found it as a (probably) random piece of loot in one of the dungeons in the Pitax area.

Aye, the one in the Chapel. It lets you cast a mass Greater Heroism that lasts almost a day for free :D Pure damage wise the +5 greatsword is better though, simply because the +2d6 of damage is rolled separately and thus counts stuff like sneak attack and Smite Evil damage bonus twice per hit

 

[Lambach]

Wouldn't be so much of a problem if that XP is distributed more evenly. For example, I got a paltry 5600 XP for killing a level 20 ghostly Wizard with sky-high AC, almost complete immunity to weapon damage etc. that could cast Wail of The Banshee at-will, but I got 120k XP for beating 2 speech checks in one convo. That's straight-up bullshit.

 

[vazha]

Spoiler

Tulip/Shaynih'a artisan items:

• Serpent Prince (Fauchard +3. 5-19 Damage, 6ft Range, 18-20x2 Crit. Destructive [Crit multipler +1], Corrosive [+1d6 acid damage]. 12825g) /u/cfl2
  
  
• Oppressor (Bastard Sword +4. +6 Charisma. +2 Luck bonus to Will saves. 14650g) /u/ZeeAndor
  
  
• Fervant Edge (Furious Incinerating Falcata +3. One use of Righteous Might per day. 14750gp) /u/RetconRaider
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• Dark bidding (Fauchard +3. Necrotic [+2d8 negative energy damage], one use of Animate dead per day) /u/cfl2
  
  
• Mastery (Fauchard +5. Continuous freedom of movement, immunity to trip and bullrush, +5 to CMB, deals damage like a regular hit on successful combat maneuver. 53450g.) This is their Masterpiece item. /u/Sagekun
  

Good lord. Any idea what are the chances of getting any of these chapter-wise? Could I get for example that Oppressor bastard sword or Necrotic Fauchard as early as in chapter 3-4? That would solve my weapon focus conundrum.

 

[Reinhardt]

Please spoiler me.

Basically

Spoiler

If you do barbarians quest first you are here right in time, if you do curse - SURPRISE! Aldori woman is as competent as she looks and Brevoy army losing.

 

[hell bovine]

Am I supposed to hold onto those ancient coins and shit, the stuff where it says "a collector might pay for this" or "someone interested in antiquities might pay for this"? Or is it just meant as flavor and I can vendor it?

The 'offer' button gets rid of worthless junk at shops, as far as I can tell.

PS. As for reading item descriptions, my druid has 7 intelligence, he doesn't know how to read. He doesn't even know how to speak; Ms. Piggy is actually a ventriloquist.

 

[Jasede]

I have restarted no less than six times by now because I keep trying out different builds. Send help.

 

[vazha]

Am I supposed to hold onto those ancient coins and shit, the stuff where it says "a collector might pay for this" or "someone interested in antiquities might pay for this"? Or is it just meant as flavor and I can vendor it?

The 'offer' button gets rid of worthless junk at shops, as far as I can tell.

PS. As for reading item descriptions, my druid has 7 intelligence, he doesn't know how to read. He doesn't even know how to speak; Ms. Piggy is actually a ventriloquist.

Keep those, eventually an elf in your capital will give you cash and exp for them

 

[Parabalus]

Which of the region upgrades is worthwhile?

Most of them don't have any numeric stuff, like the jewlery or hunting grounds, what gives? The ones with numbers seem decent.