KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[vazha]

Good Lord. What difficulty are you playing on?

That debuff is independent of the difficulty chosen. It's a story mechanic that is a part of the main quest. I'm fairly certain that even those on the easiest difficulties will still be rolling 1 50% of the time with that on.

Yes but is it realistic to win on unfair with a disadvantage like that?

 

[Lawntoilet]

I honestly found Harrim's personal quest and Jubilost Debates more meaningful, clever, funny and even a bit thought provoking than any writing in PoE (except Durance).

It has been so long since I just honestly and with feeling laughed in an RPG and shouted "well done!".

I am so happy about it, and would never exchange that for any pseudo philosophical garbage about hurr gods, ever.

The thing I didn't like about Harrim's quest was that you were forced to make fun of him in the Dwarven Ruins and didn't have the option to validate him. Not that I would have, but it limited your RP options too much.
Otherwise yeah I really enjoyed both of those storylines, companion quests have been cool so far. They do a good job of fleshing out even the more stereotypical companions, like Valerie's story is much better than the "omg poor me I'm too beautiful" that it initially seems like.

 

[Lawntoilet]

What's the deal with romances anyway? Don't think I had any triggered so far. Very refreshing from nu-RPGs.

To romance Valerie you have to talk to her about her past, convince her you value more than just her beauty,

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treat her the same after she gets her scar and remind her that she never cared about being beautiful anyway.

To romance Olivia, you just have to take the overtly flirty dialogue options until you get an option that is basically "grab tiddy."

 

[ArchAngel]

Good Lord. What difficulty are you playing on?

That debuff is independent of the difficulty chosen. It's a story mechanic that is a part of the main quest. I'm fairly certain that even those on the easiest difficulties will still be rolling 1 50% of the time with that on.

Yes but is it realistic to win on unfair with a disadvantage like that?

It is called Unfair for a reason
It should be so hard that you need to make specific builds and characters to beat it and then still be lucky.

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

I honestly found Harrim's personal quest and Jubilost Debates more meaningful, clever, funny and even a bit thought provoking than any writing in PoE (except Durance).

It has been so long since I just honestly and with feeling laughed in an RPG and shouted "well done!".

I am so happy about it, and would never exchange that for any pseudo philosophical garbage about hurr gods, ever.

Haven't finished Harrim's quest yet but the Debates were extremely well done and legitimately funny. The tentacles thing was great and the kobold is peak

 

[Nryn]

Yes but is it realistic to win on unfair with a disadvantage like that?

Exploiting summons and certain broken spells (Greater Shout) should make the game beatable on Unfair, even through that debuff.

Now what I'm really interested in seeing is if some mad modder adds that debuff permanently from the start of the game as an ultimate challenge mod. Would be interesting to see somebody solo the entire game on Unfair while under that debuff the whole time.

 

[vazha]

Surely that would be impossible, especially on solo.

 

[Fedora Master]

Yes but is it realistic to win on unfair with a disadvantage like that?

Exploiting summons and certain broken spells (Greater Shout) should make the game beatable on Unfair, even through that debuff.

Now what I'm really interested in seeing is if some mad modder adds that debuff permanently from the start of the game as an ultimate challenge mod. Would be interesting to see somebody solo the entire game on Unfair while under that debuff the whole time.

No it wouldn't. It would just be autism.

 

[Shadenuat]

Yes but is it realistic to win on unfair with a disadvantage like that?

Exploiting summons and certain broken spells (Greater Shout) should make the game beatable on Unfair, even through that debuff.

Now what I'm really interested in seeing is if some mad modder adds that debuff permanently from the start of the game as an ultimate challenge mod. Would be interesting to see somebody solo the entire game on Unfair while under that debuff the whole time.

All spells get their time cut by this debuff.

And no you should't be able to use any Greater Shouts. It's a bug that memorized spells are usable.

 

[Andnjord]

Surely that would be impossible, especially on solo.

There is nothing that endless reloading can't defeat!

 

[toro]

Surely that would be impossible, especially on solo.

There is nothing that endless reloading can't defeat!

I agree. My will to continue is constantly decreasing ...

 

[Fedora Master]

Has anyone played around with the Mystic Theurge class? I feel like it offers comparatively little.

 

[Jenkem]

we could have 1.1 already and expecting 1.2 this friday if it weren't for you meddling kids and your "HOT" fixes.

 

[Sharpedge]

For some reason I find this seriously amusing:

 

[toro]

Honestly the entire kingdom management part is bullshit. I've tried to keep up with it but it seems that I've fucked up at some point.

Now, there are -250BP punishments when an advisor fails to do a quest and the game is expecting me to have thousands of BP in the inventory.

But the thing is that the kingdom BP income is bugged for the entire first chapters.

Please check BP income from regions. It's 0. In my case, it started moving after I've annexed the 8th region.

Everything is simply a mess.

 

[hell bovine]

A question about kingdom management: if your main character is a bard and plays that competence song in the throne room, would it buff your advisors and help them to pass those dc checks?

 

[Shadenuat]

Not Recommended
104.0 hrs last two weeks / 361.6 hrs on record

 

[panda]

Most expensive scroll in the game

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Yes, it disappears after a single ability usage

 

[Reinhardt]

There is something very wrong with my new playtrough. It started from the bandit fight at Oleg's outpost and now wherever i go it's raining on EVERY map and if i don't leave fast enough - STORM! It's not that bad when i run small maps but now i arrived to Old Sycamore...

 

[Lawntoilet]

Has anyone played around with the Mystic Theurge class? I feel like it offers comparatively little.

I made Tristian one. It's decent, you get a crazy amount of spells per day, but it takes so long to come online. It helps that Empyreal Sorcerer gets a bunch of cleric spells on their list.

 

[fantadomat]

There is something very wrong with my new playtrough. It started from the bandit fight at Oleg's outpost and now wherever i go it's raining on EVERY map and if i don't leave fast enough - STORM! It's not that bad when i run small maps but now i arrived to Old Sycamore...

Did you try to sleep/camp,on both the world map and the level map?

 

[bataille]

1.1 is going to fix everything.

 

[toro]

The last hot-fix contains this gem:

No entry points on Pitax city map. Resolution: fixed.

No comment except that the Pitax chapter is still unfinished.

Needless to say I've just started the Pitax chapter and the first companion quest is bugged:

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Annamede Belavarah is not on the map.

Considering all the above and the fact that I'm sick of save-scumming for successes on opportunities, I've decided to give up.

I honestly don't enjoy the game anymore because the pacing is completely retarded: you can have up to 3 timed quests at the same time and then you can have 300 days without anything happening. I mean the first 4 chapters of the game are great and I love the combat mechanics, exploration and the story but the hidden timers are killing it for me. Perpetual reloading where each loading screen takes 15 seconds it's no fun.

Also I will admit one thing: I'm not a hardcore player as this games requires one to be. You have to pay attention to how you are building your characters, how to progress with quests, how to manage the party in fights, how to build your town for max revenues, how to train your advisors for max stats, when to annex new territories and other micro-management activities (like best equipment and so on). At some point everything becomes a chore.

That being said, I will revisit this game sometime in the future. I'm burned out atm.

 

[toro]

I'm inching towards the conclusion, and the end areas in Kingmaker are an order of magnitude more difficult than the endgames in any other RTwP RPG (or most RPGs for that matter). Fighting the numerous Wild Hunt mobs is already brutal enough, but the encounters that follow make me miss the days when my party was just a bunch of level 2s getting curb stomped by 3 Greater Enraged Owlbears with a Base Attack Bonus of 18.

Here's a mostly spoiler-free example:

The game hits the entire party with the following unavoidable debuff that cannot be removed through normal means:

Given the incredibly weak saving throws of your party, it then make you fight numerous enemies who spam "Save or Die" spells.

The only way I've made any progress is by burning through whatever wands, scrolls and summons I've hoarded so far, but oddly enough, I'm loving the absurd difficulty of it all.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/1734342161857081187/

Ok, we are working on it, hopefully, most of the problems will be fixed in next hotfix (15th).

 

[Gord]

Ok, so I broke down, because I found a good offer for a Steam key.
I just hope that since I will most likely play rather slowly due to not having much free time atm, the later chapters will be fixed before I reach them...