Luckmann
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Suddenly I'm gainging 270 XP for disarming traps.
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Cael
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Someone better check that. It may be that only the one who landed the killing blow got all the XP...I'm not so sure, if the exp really is shared among characters that are NOT currently in your party - that sounds like a bug to me, not lazy simply lazy design. Not saying that this game is free of lazy design choices - just that this might not be the case.I am not really surprised. Anyone that knows Slavs, knows they are a lazy bunch that will do only what is necessary and not what is needed to accomplish the task. This stinks of such way of thinking... this is not a bug, but a design flaw born out of being a lazy fuck.
On the other hand 54/6 = 9 so perhaps the exp is being shown for the character doing the kill only In that case either all characters get 9exp (shared xp one) or one gets 6x9=54 (off). Making it a total 54 in both cases, which would be correct. I'm confused now.
Thonius
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It's like putting Dzirt in the game!
Exactly. In that case it would mean that both settings work as intended, the total amount of XP would be the same as it should be and it is shared only among current party members. It requires some testing.Someone better check that. It may be that only the one who landed the killing blow got all the XP...I'm not so sure, if the exp really is shared among characters that are NOT currently in your party - that sounds like a bug to me, not lazy simply lazy design. Not saying that this game is free of lazy design choices - just that this might not be the case.I am not really surprised. Anyone that knows Slavs, knows they are a lazy bunch that will do only what is necessary and not what is needed to accomplish the task. This stinks of such way of thinking... this is not a bug, but a design flaw born out of being a lazy fuck.
On the other hand 54/6 = 9 so perhaps the exp is being shown for the character doing the kill only In that case either all characters get 9exp (shared xp one) or one gets 6x9=54 (off). Making it a total 54 in both cases, which would be correct. I'm confused now.
Luckmann
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Alright, so, I can confirm that SOMETHING is bugged.
Before disarming a trap, my characters in the party of 6 all had 7093 XP.
With the option to share XP turned on, disarming the trap said it granted 45 XP. Everyone in the group now has a total of 7138 XP (so, 45 XP each).
With the option to share XP turned off, disarming the trap said it granted 270 xp. Everyone in the group now has a total of... 7138 XP (again, 45 XP each).
It's just another fucking bug, guys.
Before disarming a trap, my characters in the party of 6 all had 7093 XP.
With the option to share XP turned on, disarming the trap said it granted 45 XP. Everyone in the group now has a total of 7138 XP (so, 45 XP each).
With the option to share XP turned off, disarming the trap said it granted 270 xp. Everyone in the group now has a total of... 7138 XP (again, 45 XP each).
It's just another fucking bug, guys.
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I'm not so sure, if the exp really is shared among characters that are NOT currently in your party - that sounds like a bug to me, not lazy simply lazy design. Not saying that this game is free of lazy design choices - just that this might not be the case.I am not really surprised. Anyone that knows Slavs, knows they are a lazy bunch that will do only what is necessary and not what is needed to accomplish the task. This stinks of such way of thinking... this is not a bug, but a design flaw born out of being a lazy fuck.
On the other hand 54/6 = 9 so perhaps the exp is being shown for the character doing the kill only In that case either all characters 9exp or one gets 6x9=54, making it a total 54 in both cases? I'm confused now.
The description of the xp-sharing option seems pretty clear to me:
It doesn't say whether experiences is shared with companions in your camp, or with all possible companions whether they have joined you or not (I'd say it would've been logical if it shared only with companions in the camp, but it seems it is just shared between 12 people whether they joined or not), but afaik they all join your camp pretty soon, so there isn't hat big of a difference.
On a plus side it says that solo character will gain 6 times as much experience as a full party with xp sharing disabled.
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Two bandits at 54XP per kill means 108 XP. Experience of the entire (5 person) party went from 3411 to 3431.
I... What?
That's 20 XP but even with shared xp and 9 points a pop that'd only be 18. What is going on here?
I... What?
That's 20 XP but even with shared xp and 9 points a pop that'd only be 18. What is going on here?
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Thonius
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Huh very interesting.... Is there results/word from devs on that? Game is getting more and more hardcore with every minute.Someone better check that. It may be that only the one who landed the killing blow got all the XP...I'm not so sure, if the exp really is shared among characters that are NOT currently in your party - that sounds like a bug to me, not lazy simply lazy design. Not saying that this game is free of lazy design choices - just that this might not be the case.I am not really surprised. Anyone that knows Slavs, knows they are a lazy bunch that will do only what is necessary and not what is needed to accomplish the task. This stinks of such way of thinking... this is not a bug, but a design flaw born out of being a lazy fuck.
On the other hand 54/6 = 9 so perhaps the exp is being shown for the character doing the kill only In that case either all characters get 9exp (shared xp one) or one gets 6x9=54 (off). Making it a total 54 in both cases, which would be correct. I'm confused now.
Cael
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No. It is only a display thing, it seems. You still get the same old XP by the looks of things. Just the display is glitched.
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Luckmann
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On what setting? It doesn't seem to make an actual difference. But either way, you shouldn't be getting those errors. I think there's some kind of rounding going on in two different steps.. or something, I don't fucking know, it's fucked.Two bandits at 54XP per kill means 108 XP. Experience of the entire (5 person) party went from 3411 to 3431.
I... What?
See my earlier post. It's a display thing. It makes no difference which option you pick. The only difference seems to be whether it shows you the total value or the distributed value, but I've only tried with a party of 6. Fedora Master get some weird shit with a party of 5, but it seems to be *less* XP than he should be getting, not *more*.
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Let me put it this way: All SJWs are assholes, but not all assholes are SJWs.
As for Paizo, let me point you to my sentence just above with regards to SJWs.
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Jesus, why do you people care so much about XP, the leveling curve is fine as it is. The biggest power spike happens at lvl 6, beyond that xp gain is irrelevant (playing on hard, with deaths disabled, since it's more of a nuisance with current load times). The only place with high level creatures so far was the Rat's nook or whatever it's called, near the capital, everything else is manageable as is, especially when you get haste, prayer and such.
On a side note, does anyone know if Forgotten Hero's Sepulcher (or somesuch) is bugged? Pressed the orange plate, but nothing happened, checked every possible corner, couldn't find any extra switches and shit, orange doors are still closed.
On a side note, does anyone know if Forgotten Hero's Sepulcher (or somesuch) is bugged? Pressed the orange plate, but nothing happened, checked every possible corner, couldn't find any extra switches and shit, orange doors are still closed.
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holla_cabezas_de_mierda
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how many characters in your active party when you did this?
108/5=21,6, you got 20 instead. Seems it's a matter of some weird rounding (down) that took away honestly earned 8 exp (or 1,6 per charachter). Shouldn't be a problem with higher numbers. Hopefully.Two bandits at 54XP per kill means 108 XP. Experience of the entire (5 person) party went from 3411 to 3431.
I... What?
That's 20 XP but even with shared xp and 9 points a pop that'd only be 18. What is going on here?
Seems it's a false alarm. Just keep the "only active companions receive xp" on (it is on by default i think) and you should be fine.
Luckmann
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I'm going to guess 6, considering that 54 / 6 is 9.
how many characters in your active party when you did this?
holla_cabezas_de_mierda
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the reason I ask3ed about how many people in party is it says in the first screen shot Amari got 9XP when bandit died..in 2nd the person who killed it got 54. If there are 6 people in the party when Amari got 9 perhaps everyone else got 9 too? With it off the 54 EXP may have gone to a single person. If that is the case, its really sort of the same thing. Or maybe I am not understanding something.
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You know I really enjoy the game but HOW HARD is it to just TAKE the XP values given in the RAW and PUT THEM in the fucking file and then divide them equally by # of people in the party I mean SHIT. I NEVER MISCALCULATED ANYTHING. ANYTHING!
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Just pointing this out:108/5=21,6, you got 20 instead. Seems it's a matter of some weird rounding (down) that took away honestly earned 8 exp (or 1,6 per charachter). Shouldn't be a problem with higher numbers. Hopefully.Two bandits at 54XP per kill means 108 XP. Experience of the entire (5 person) party went from 3411 to 3431.
I... What?
That's 20 XP but even with shared xp and 9 points a pop that'd only be 18. What is going on here?
Seems it's a false alarm. Just keep the "only active companions receive xp" on (it is on by default i think) and you should be fine.
The same thing happens in the IE games and is especially noticeable in IWD1/2. You start with a fresh party, all with the same XP. As the game progresses, the one you put in the last slot will drop further and further behind in XP. As far as I can tell, this is because the game divides the XP you get by the number of party members (let's call it X) and assign only the whole number to all party members. Any remaining XP is divided by (X-1) and only the first (X-1) get the XP. Any remainder and it is divided by (X-2) and assigned to the first (X-2) and so on.
Kingmaker seems to be going the other way, and that is by keeping track of the decimal places internally and only displaying the whole numbers.
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As I said, this is a freshly made character at level 2. Just came from the Ancient Temple and picked up Harrim. 5 people, can't have more at that point.
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I'm going to guess 6, considering that 54 / 6 is 9.
how many characters in your active party when you did this?
okay, so 9*6 active part members. maybe everyone got 9? So party shared 54 EXP. In 2nd example only the person who killed the bandit got the EXP? Or is it something else?
Yeah, in one setting the game seems to display the total XP you got before distribution between party members in the other setting it shows the exp gained "per character" but the total should be roughly the same in both cases. Rounding issues excluded. It's confusing, it's silly but it probably isn't broken.I'm going to guess 6, considering that 54 / 6 is 9.
how many characters in your active party when you did this?
Still the idea of non-party members getting exp for something they haven't even witnessed is retarded so better leave that setting on default (not sharing).
holla_cabezas_de_mierda
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Yeah, in one setting the game seems to display the total XP you got before distribution between party members in the other setting it shows the exp gained "per character" but the total should be roughly the same in both cases. Rounding issues excludd.I'm going to guess 6, considering that 54 / 6 is 9.
how many characters in your active party when you did this?
Still the idea of non-party members getting exp for something they haven't even witnessed is retarded so better leave that setting on default.
okay, I understand the issue now. thanks.
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