KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[fantadomat]

NUMER ONE AGAIN BABY:

It seems that i was right,there are a lot of grognards rpg lovers out in the woods. Just nobody managed to deliver....until now.

 

[Andnjord]

NUMER ONE AGAIN BABY:

It seems that i was right,there are a lot of grognards rpg lovers out in the woods. Just nobody managed to deliver....until now.

Game has been out for days, has stayed near the top of Steam sales and still not a single Journo Review on Metacritic. What a travesty.

Both from Owlcat/Paizo for not marketing properly and from the gamejournos for sitting on their asses!

 

[rusty_shackleford]

NUMER ONE AGAIN BABY:

It seems that i was right,there are a lot of grognards rpg lovers out in the woods. Just nobody managed to deliver....until now.

Game has been out for days, has stayed near the top of Steam and still not a single Journo Review on Metacritic. What a travesty.

Both from Owlcat/Paizo for not marketing properly and for the gamejournos for sitting on their asses!

game """journalists""" only write reviews when you pay them for it

 

[Xeon]

Would you still get a game over if you set the kingdom management to auto? I would assume some of your companions would act as advisers and handle some of the urgent issues and if its too important, a king can get notified or handle things via messengers.

I don't think I am against time limit completely, just not the ones that don't end up killing me but end up in a game over, for example in this case the PC becomes a king I think, so if he fails the time limit, he loses his kingdom then he goes back to a merc or something with a huge malice to reputation or something for being incompetent.

Edit:
I think having a time limit in WL2's starting choice between the 2 locations would have been better I think, instead of the arbitrary, saving one causes the other to fail automatically. This way you could save both, save none, or like normal save one or the other.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

Reading the steam reviews is triggering the shit out of me. I now understand how and why the decline happened and have a target to direct my anger towards for it occurring in the first place. I worry the amount of whining is going to discourage any developers witnessing this to avoid making difficult RPG's at all, even with difficulty options.

And this is difficulty issue is the most incredible part of this to me. The developers added a way to completely change many/most of the difficulty settings. The ability to fine tune the difficulty is more detailed and extensive than on almost any game I can remember. You would think being told this fact would be enough to settle their issue, but no- most of the idiots are actually already aware that these these options exist and they refuse to change them. Their reasoning for not being willing to change the difficulty is that they "should not have to" and that "they always play CRPG's on hard", because they are seasoned and accomplished gamers. So instead of taking 15 seconds to change the settings themselves like the developers intended they instead want the developer to make the changes for them using code and a patch. How does this make any sense? And its not like this is some isolated complaint, it seems about half the complaints are about this issue. Maybe more than half even.

The entire thing comes down to their fucking feelings being hurt by name given to the internal difficulty settings. How does it make sense to them that they ask for a patch for something they can just go change in the settings right now? And how is it that so many fucking other idiots agree with and seem to share this same type of thought process? its totally bizarre. Its like mass mental illness. Its fucking insane as hell.

It's not so incredible if you assume that these are people who play games not to have fun/disconnect/enjoy a challenge, but in order to prop their shaky egos. In other words, "This fucking game is telling me that I suck at it? That's not what I've spent my 39€ for!" (that is, to have my ego massaged). I'd say we are seeing this kind of overblown and apparently absurd reactions because the game is (involuntarily) threatening a core part of their identity, i.e. the perception of themselves as "hardcore gamers" (perception that has been constantly nurtured throughout the years by hundreds of games designed to make them feel they were being exceptional for doing easy-peasy things but presented under a "maximum difficulty" label).

I honestly hope that Owlcat pull a Daniel Vavra and sells well in spite of the legion of "exceptional gamers" throwing tantrums on Steam also because if it does not, it's going to set a really grim precedent for any developer planning to make an RPG with any amount of challenge in it, as you said.

Edit: there, DeepOcean was quicker than me.

One good thing is that it really does appear to be selling well, I am very happy about that and hope it continues because it has a chance to possibly change many developers feelings about making these types of detailed and rules intensive games. Even obsidian etc have been telling us all that in "current year" only deranged nerds want to spend more than 2 minutes making a character and the days of people spending hours rolling up a party of 6 for Icewind Dale are long gone. I have always felt that this is totally incorrect, but had no way to prove it or know for sure. I think some of the whiners are just exceptionally loud and maybe have a lot of time on their hands. I am not sure that they have as much money to spend, but its really just me guessing, which is why I am very happy that this game seems to be selling well. I hope it continues to be the case.

 

[Andnjord]

Time to assault the Stag Lord's Keep baby!














..........I still want mah Cleric........




EDIT:

Spoiler

Of course the first encounters are hordes of zombies...

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

17.5k! with gog it might be more than 20k
( I feel dumb for chosing Steam this time, but last time GoG messed up my POE2 downloads)

also it seemed to be at the top of the steam list a day or two or three before it was even released.

 

[Shadenuat]

Neutral Master Race

Spoiler

Sometimes writing in this game just surprises me very much, I never was so pleased with playing neutral or lawful in game

Too bad it surprises me in bad ways nearly just as often.

 

[panda]

gamejournos

I think you misspelled a whoword here.

 

[Fedora Master]

gamejournos

I think you misspelled a whoword here.

Presstitutes.

 

[Volrath]

Anyone else really like the soundtrack? It's another part of the game that I rate to be massive

 

[Roguey]

Game has been out for days, has stayed near the top of Steam sales and still not a single Journo Review on Metacritic. What a travesty.

Both from Owlcat/Paizo for not marketing properly and from the gamejournos for sitting on their asses!

a) It would have been a mistake to release review codes early because they would have been hit for bugs

b) journalists should actually try to complete this thing, then write their reviews. AFAIK literally no one has actually completed it yet, why would you expect a review now?

 

[Elex]

NUMER ONE AGAIN BABY:

can't belive is really happening.

 

[DeepOcean]

Selling better than PUBG even for only a day is pretty good news.

 

[Thonius]

Did they leave the moderation of the Steam forums to Paizo employees?

I got warning for calling some idiot "drama queen"

 

[Jenkem]

If I get Jaethal out of Kobold jail and ask her to join my party she walks off and says she has to do something... is she in my party back at oleg's or do I have to do something else?

 

[Elex]

https://www.merlininkazani.com/pathfinder-kingmaker-inceleme-103754 turkish review.

 

[Thonius]

Game has been out for days, has stayed near the top of Steam sales and still not a single Journo Review on Metacritic. What a travesty.

Both from Owlcat/Paizo for not marketing properly and from the gamejournos for sitting on their asses!

a) It would have been a mistake to release review codes early because they would have been hit for bugs

b) journalists should actually try to complete this thing, then write their reviews. AFAIK literally no one has actually completed it yet, why would you expect a review now?

Nobody completed POE2 too on release...

 

[Volrath]

Game has been out for days, has stayed near the top of Steam sales and still not a single Journo Review on Metacritic. What a travesty.

Both from Owlcat/Paizo for not marketing properly and from the gamejournos for sitting on their asses!

a) It would have been a mistake to release review codes early because they would have been hit for bugs

b) journalists should actually try to complete this thing, then write their reviews. AFAIK literally no one has actually completed it yet, why would you expect a review now?

Nobody completed POE2 too on release...

Nobody completed pillows2 6 months later either

 

[Lacrymas]

What are you even talking about, Roguey? You know vidya gaem """"""""journalists""""""""" don't complete games.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Game has been out for days, has stayed near the top of Steam sales and still not a single Journo Review on Metacritic. What a travesty.

Both from Owlcat/Paizo for not marketing properly and from the gamejournos for sitting on their asses!

a) It would have been a mistake to release review codes early because they would have been hit for bugs

b) journalists should actually try to complete this thing, then write their reviews. AFAIK literally no one has actually completed it yet, why would you expect a review now?

Here's the problem with this logic:

There were multiple BT4 reviews and not a single one mentioned the bug that made it impossible to actually complete the game.

 

[Thonius]

Game has been out for days, has stayed near the top of Steam sales and still not a single Journo Review on Metacritic. What a travesty.

Both from Owlcat/Paizo for not marketing properly and from the gamejournos for sitting on their asses!

a) It would have been a mistake to release review codes early because they would have been hit for bugs

b) journalists should actually try to complete this thing, then write their reviews. AFAIK literally no one has actually completed it yet, why would you expect a review now?

Nobody completed POE2 too on release...

Nobody completed pillows2 6 months later either

I did .

 

[Jenkem]

It's not about dilly-dallying. If you go to the Old Sycamore Tree caves first, you'll be informed that anything could've been going on at the temple by now, even if you do it as fast as humanly possible. Some things are simply scripted (in a, I think, reasonable fashion, albeit understandably frustrating sometimes).

The same happens if you're following up on the bandits but go the Ancient Tomb before going to the Thorn Ford. Interestingly, if you go to the Thorn Ford first and then go to the Ancient Temple, you'll get the popup that the bandits probably has gone away by now, but it's not relevant anymore, because you've already talked to them. I think.

Nah if you go to the thorn ford first you get a pop up that says tartuccio probably left the tomb by now, and when you go there he's not there and his mercs immediately attack you

 

[deama]

Guys... I was playing the game solo this entire time, and now I've gone into a part of the main quest where I have to send one of my guys from my current party to some other place to continue, but I don't have anyone... and I can't roll back to a prev save cause the place I'm in doesn't allow you to exit and I don't have any saves from before I entered this place...

 

[Sentinel]

Guys... I was playing the game solo this entire time, and now I've gone into a part of the main quest where I have to send one of my guys from my current party to some other place to continue, but I don't have anyone... and I can't roll back to a prev save cause the place I'm in doesn't allow you to exit and I don't have any saves from before I entered this place...