Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Desiderius]

It turns on DEX to AB too? Finesse doesn’t.

Naturlicht longsword is not a light weapon. So you need to waste 3 feats (focus finesse slashing) to make your life worse.

Stop torturing poor Daeran

This isn’t for Daeran, he’ll probably go Rapier since I’m never using Cam. Daeran’s horse isn’t even alive yet.

This is for Angelfire Apostle build where I want to use Reduce Person. Reduce doesn’t really work with Medium Armor.

 

[Alrik]

Odin grant me strength, that Vrock fight at Market Square was ridiculous. L9, 120HP, 10DR(Good), 5APR at +10AB, 7x Mirror Image if you don't win initiative, full party CC at DC21.

My party was L3 and I didn't rest after leveling my characters at the start of the chapter for efficient time management, so no L2 spells for Cammy.

Got extremely lucky on my ~6th attempt when combat opened with Ember hitting her Slumber (20% chance) and my Str Saint followed up with a 59 dmg crit (don't ask me how an x2 weapon deals 59 damage on a crit). Only pure luck kept Woljif from outright dying when he got hit with a combo. Even though I had gotten to this point very efficiently in terms of resources, my spells are basically all used up and key consumables like my only scroll of Bless Weapon are now gone. Had planned to do Daeran's mansion before resting, but not sure how conceivable that is.

At least I got the sick shield for Seelah.

 

[Salvo]

Odin grant me strength, that Vrock fight at Market Square was ridiculous. L9, 120HP, 10DR(Good), 5APR at +10AB, 7x Mirror Image if you don't win initiative, full party CC at DC21.

My party was L3 and I didn't rest after leveling my characters at the start of the chapter for efficient time management, so no L2 spells for Cammy.

Got extremely lucky on my ~6th attempt when combat opened with Ember hitting her Slumber (20% chance) and my Str Saint followed up with a 59 dmg crit (don't ask me how an x2 weapon deals 59 damage on a crit). Only pure luck kept Woljif from outright dying when he got hit with a combo. Even though I had gotten to this point very efficiently in terms of resources, my spells are basically all used up and key consumables like my only scroll of Bless Weapon are now gone. Had planned to do Daeran's mansion before resting, but not sure how conceivable that is.

At least I got the sick shield for Seelah.

The best part is that it's completely optional. I love how hard some of the non-mandatory fights are, and unlike Hosilla, I don't think the Vrock is overtuned.

 

[Salvo]

Also shoutout to Desiderius for pointing out that you can buy a Heroism scroll by the mongrelwoman, it really makes the whole Shield Maze much easier.

 

[Desiderius]

Odin grant me strength, that Vrock fight at Market Square was ridiculous. L9, 120HP, 10DR(Good), 5APR at +10AB, 7x Mirror Image if you don't win initiative, full party CC at DC21.

My party was L3 and I didn't rest after leveling my characters at the start of the chapter for efficient time management, so no L2 spells for Cammy.

Got extremely lucky on my ~6th attempt when combat opened with Ember hitting her Slumber (20% chance) and my Str Saint followed up with a 59 dmg crit (don't ask me how an x2 weapon deals 59 damage on a crit). Only pure luck kept Woljif from outright dying when he got hit with a combo. Even though I had gotten to this point very efficiently in terms of resources, my spells are basically all used up and key consumables like my only scroll of Bless Weapon are now gone. Had planned to do Daeran's mansion before resting, but not sure how conceivable that is.

At least I got the sick shield for Seelah.

Got my ass SO kicked first time.

 

[Desiderius]

Was out cold for a while didn't get to play anything for a week.

Spoiler

Restarted again, 8th run of ch.1 tiefling MC this time Dirge Bard, going for Trickster. Core diff, but with enemy number still set to standard (I'll git gud one day )
Best run yet, couldn't do tower in ch.1 before attack, otherwise owned Grey Garrison (power of good - inquisitors tanking while Seelah kicks ass and takes names)

Ch.2 I think the gargoyles got nerfed, was way easier that what I remember from the alpha. Lost Chapel next, then onward towards Drezen.

I'm keeping everyone on their base class this time, gotta learn how to play Lann's class eventually, I guess.

Biggest problem is what party to take with me. I'm going right now with Seelah, Regil, Sosiel, Lann and fox girl, so no witch, think I'll have to shuffle around a bit and take Cam or best girl Ember along. Regil is massive bro, though, would be sad to lose him.

Core ain’t a walk in the park for anyone, especially early.

 

[Desiderius]

Was out cold for a while didn't get to play anything for a week.

Spoiler

Restarted again, 8th run of ch.1 tiefling MC this time Dirge Bard, going for Trickster. Core diff, but with enemy number still set to standard (I'll git gud one day )
Best run yet, couldn't do tower in ch.1 before attack, otherwise owned Grey Garrison (power of good - inquisitors tanking while Seelah kicks ass and takes names)

Ch.2 I think the gargoyles got nerfed, was way easier that what I remember from the alpha. Lost Chapel next, then onward towards Drezen.

I'm keeping everyone on their base class this time, gotta learn how to play Lann's class eventually, I guess.

Biggest problem is what party to take with me. I'm going right now with Seelah, Regil, Sosiel, Lann and fox girl, so no witch, think I'll have to shuffle around a bit and take Cam or best girl Ember along. Regil is massive bro, though, would be sad to lose him.

Once Regill gets a real class it will probably be him or Seelah unless you make Seelah your Bard.

 

[Salvo]

Was out cold for a while didn't get to play anything for a week.

Spoiler

Restarted again, 8th run of ch.1 tiefling MC this time Dirge Bard, going for Trickster. Core diff, but with enemy number still set to standard (I'll git gud one day )
Best run yet, couldn't do tower in ch.1 before attack, otherwise owned Grey Garrison (power of good - inquisitors tanking while Seelah kicks ass and takes names)

Ch.2 I think the gargoyles got nerfed, was way easier that what I remember from the alpha. Lost Chapel next, then onward towards Drezen.

I'm keeping everyone on their base class this time, gotta learn how to play Lann's class eventually, I guess.

Biggest problem is what party to take with me. I'm going right now with Seelah, Regil, Sosiel, Lann and fox girl, so no witch, think I'll have to shuffle around a bit and take Cam or best girl Ember along. Regil is massive bro, though, would be sad to lose him.

Once Regill gets a real class it will probably be him or Seelah unless you make Seelah your Bard.

What's broken with Hellknight right now?

 

[Desiderius]

What's broken with Hellknight right now?

Looking forward to taking Regill for a spin so leveling him up today and get this:

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[Desiderius]

Looks like Infinitron is dodging a bullet. Due to little kid request on Owlcat forums:

Hey, if you're going Angel might as well go all the way.

 

[Shadenuat]

Did they fix Nimbus? It was DC11 when I played it.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

That Angelfire Apostle kit is pretty cool actually. One thing about Pathfinder I like much better than D&D is how they handle Paladins. This takes the cleric more in that direction.

 

[Desiderius]

Everything like that was stuck for a long time in P:K then I think they fixed it because Dispelling Strike finally started working. Was this in Beta that you noticed or P:K?

 

[Yosharian]

Odin grant me strength, that Vrock fight at Market Square was ridiculous. L9, 120HP, 10DR(Good), 5APR at +10AB, 7x Mirror Image if you don't win initiative, full party CC at DC21.

My party was L3 and I didn't rest after leveling my characters at the start of the chapter for efficient time management, so no L2 spells for Cammy.

Got extremely lucky on my ~6th attempt when combat opened with Ember hitting her Slumber (20% chance) and my Str Saint followed up with a 59 dmg crit (don't ask me how an x2 weapon deals 59 damage on a crit). Only pure luck kept Woljif from outright dying when he got hit with a combo. Even though I had gotten to this point very efficiently in terms of resources, my spells are basically all used up and key consumables like my only scroll of Bless Weapon are now gone. Had planned to do Daeran's mansion before resting, but not sure how conceivable that is.

At least I got the sick shield for Seelah.

Sounds fucking awesome, I wish there were fights like that in Kingmaker.

 

[Shadenuat]

Everything like that was stuck for a long time in P:K then I think they fixed it because Dispelling Strike finally started working. Was this in Beta that you noticed or P:K?

yeah tested it now, still 11.
also you can click angelfire multiple times, but that's out of combat. probably a glitch with Quick actions.

 

[Desiderius]

In P:K or Wrath? What Angelfire are you clicking? Did you play an Angelfire?

 

[Shadenuat]

in wrath. why would I test it in PK? dis angelfire which after casting spell you can make an explosun.
I have a Chapter 4 save with 1st level mercenary near an enemy for this.

 

[Desiderius]

Also shoutout to Desiderius for pointing out that you can buy a Heroism scroll by the mongrelwoman, it really makes the whole Shield Maze much easier.

I just gave Cam a Leopard with 35 AC and 20 Stealth to take all the heat off.

 

[Desiderius]

Can you put Cleasing Flames on Autocast for it to trigger after each spell?

What’s the DC?

BTW, PnP triggers only on Cure spells which I never cast. In Wrath it’s every spell, which is fine because it’s only 1d4 per level but should still be solid since it’s free (Swift Action). Was hoping Nimbus another effect centered on caster would go well with.

 

[Shadenuat]

yea it's autocastable.

What’s the DC?

Bad.
I mean, it's accurate to ability description, yes.

 

[Desiderius]

I mean 20 is better than 11. My Archon’s should be close to 30 by then.

 

[Desiderius]

Angel getting fired up:

Spoiler

There's going to be weird shit going on. Lots of weird shit.

When you're grabbing your Heroism Scroll, pick up one of these too. Yes Ammo has been majorly nerfed in Wrath (once you use it it's gone) but you gotta do what you gotta do.

This is how you do Maze on Hard, or as I did Core with a lot less headaches.

Stealth him up, scout stuff out. Use him for Mobility checks.

Charge him into danger then follow in with the team.

This is the Court Poet Song. As you can imagine more important for Ember, Nenio, and Seelah, but Cleansing Flames uses CHR for Saves and even Lann is taking Menacing Combat Style for Freebooter.

Easiest fight here ever.

Not tripping much yet (that will change if I end up using Cam much longer) but already taking down casters.

Tanking Hand here, soon to go after the real deal.

 

[frajaq]

Having some trouble understanding Cam's Class and Archetype too, but guess im just gonna have to roll with it because shes the only one so far with decent Trickery

 

[Desiderius]

People asking about Hosilla, here's one way to do it:

Spoiler

I sent the Leopard to Wendy to tie her up while intending to tank Hosilla with Seelah with help from Smite. You can she she took the Barkskin potion.

Looks like Angel rushed in where fool's fear to tread after landing the Demoralize. Backed out and fired off a Greater Spell Focus powered Sonic Burst. I think if you use extend Rod you'll get 12 seconds instead of six but six was enough.

Stun is a great condition, and few things are immune. Sonic Burst is a really good spell.

Seelah's Crowd AC ability not working here, but still good enough. Contemplation didn't even boost Smite (probably messed up the order).

Got cocky after the Stun and Quasits about ate me alive but finally get her down.

Should have just Enlarged her and used a two-hander probably.

Like this.

Fights a lot easier when he's not burning down/poisoning your team.

Skald gets to cast in Medium Armor.

Sound Burst doing work again. Have you read Purple Knife?

Probably going to be seeing a lot of this once we hit abundant casting.

 

[Desiderius]

Having some trouble understanding Cam's Class and Archetype too, but guess im just gonna have to roll with it because shes the only one so far with decent Trickery

It's fine, just leave her single-classed and take Passive Hexes and attack. Only tricky part is figuring out how to get DEX to damage. By level seven though any melee weapon will have Crusader's Edge on it and most foes are Demons.

I've got her on Drovier here so I can use her pet in maze.