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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Thonius, Apr 29, 2020.

  1. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    They have no abilities. There is no "build." Playing EK is throwing up your hands and admitting the game is too much for you.

    As for the action economy issue as someone who likes playing Crusaders of course you fight with the BAB and buff with the fast spell progression, but what Arcane buff is it that you want so badly to get to that you'd sacrifice all the abilities that make other martials worth playing?
     
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  2. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Don't get too down on Paizo. I use d20 extensively to figure out P:K and Wrath and it looks like a helluva game to play. Owlcat doesn't depart that far on the nuts and bolts.
     
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  3. Cryomancer Arcane Glory to Ukraine

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    Mythic path is probably the unique example of a TT rule deviation which improved the game. Tabletop games are social experience, so things must be fun for the group. CRPG's are solo experience, so things must be fun for the player. I an loving the Lich mythic path, but I don't think that it would work on TT. Deviation of rules is 99% of the time is to take out cool stuff, this is probably the unique case where it is used to add cool stuff.

    Also, reached chapter 4. The final battle of CH 3 was quite troublesome but fun. My spellbook

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    The chapter 4 is quite interesting. But I believe that I can't share details about chapter 4. Not even under spoiler tag.

    I always played with a small party. With no XP share till lv 12 and with XP share after it.
     
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  4. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Pay attention to more than two stats. Arcanist Rays may be better than they look. Bombs similar but most classes have some tools that get around those two. If not there are always items.
     
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  5. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    There are a lot of spells and abilities that buff Spell Pen, starting with the obvious Mythic Spell Pen. No reason not to be in the high 20s by that point.
     
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    The Lich buffs with 30 CL?
     
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  7. Reinhardt Arcane

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    I want giant mythic path. We starting gnome-size and getting BIGGER with each level. And then go and laugh at Victor's lich for being manlet.
     
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  8. LabRat Learned

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    Rakshasa mythic path look good for Lawful Evil Sorcerer character.
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  9. Lacrymas Arcane

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    I'd say they are mediocre warriors and mediocre mages. Melee/mage combos work only when the melee side is very good and you use the mage side to buff that to godly levels. EKs get very rudimentary melee abilities and you are better off casting damaging spells than letting melee consume your actions in any given turn. The Spell Critical feat they gain at level 10 is okay (if you get a crit) and I'd say it's the only cool thing the EK gets, but you need to heavily invest in an otherwise mediocre class.
     
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  10. Iluvcheezcake Liturgist

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    Played sorc/EK mostly for melee/ranged touch spells such as flame arrow etc. And general aoe shennanigans. Was really fun
     
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  11. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Flame Arrow isn’t Pathfinder lol. Exactly my point.

    It’s in CotW but it isn’t a Touch spell. Y’all still playing the games in your head not ready for this one.
     
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  12. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Disgusting.
     
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  13. Iluvcheezcake Liturgist

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    Last time i played was over a year ago, but you know very well what i mean. Or do you? Hmmmmm
     
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  14. NJClaw OoOoOoOoOoh Patron

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    I love playing EK in Kingmaker and I will probably love playing it in WotR. It's just a class that's particularly dear to me and with which I always have a lot of fun, but more in a "let's try to make this work" way than in a "let's build the most optimal character" way. The game is perfectly playable even with a character with no feature apart from its spells, and you still have 5 other characters that you can optimize.
     
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  15. razvedchiki Erudite Sad Loser

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    Eldritch knight?
    How you would buuld one?
     
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  16. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Innsmouth Cement and Concrete Pvt Limited
     
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    If this game is anything like Kingmaker, the correct way to build an Eldritch Knight is to play a Magus with zero Eldritch Knight levels. The EK is an anachronistic heritage of D&D 3.x, where you needed prestige classes to play a fighter/caster hybrid. Since in Pathfinder these hybrids already exist as base classes, there's really no point to it. I mean, yes, you get a different spell list, if that's what you're into.

    But if you're really stubborn, the basic entry options are Paladin 2/Sorcerer 6, Fighter 1/Wizard 5, or just Wizard 5 if the Martial Weapon Proficiency feat still gives proficiency with all the weapons.

    AND IF OWLCAT IS LISTENING, they really should homebrew a new Eldritch Knight taking inspiration from the 3.5 Abjurant Champion. THANK YOU OWLCAT, VERY COOL.
     
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  18. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Btw is there any SAMURAI class in Wrath?
     
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  19. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    fighter with exotic weapon
     
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    Those spell icons look like a huge upgrade from what we got in PF:K. Huh, maybe this game won't be shit at all...
     
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  21. Cryomancer Arcane Glory to Ukraine

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    Check JOTUN class https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/rite-publishing/jotun-paragon-class/

    He becomes large at lv 3, huge at lv 10, Gargantuan at 16 and Colossal at lv 20. Also gain a lot of STR/CON and some supernatural abilities. OwlCat could make it into a mythic path.

    I picked mythic spell penetration but IDK why, my spell penetration din't raised. Was supposed to be 23 not 19,
     
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  22. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Do these include automatic resizing of outfits, trinkets and armors? Dude's in for logistic pain otherwise.
     
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  23. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    sir this is a beta's
     
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  24. Reinhardt Arcane

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    He's barbarian.
     
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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Bro the belt made of the skulls of your foes is damned uncomfortable if your waist size increases a few times.
     
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