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The genius of these games is you can basically play 3.5 (OMG full BAB and fast spell progression!) while assuming those other 2,573 abilities all suck and be none the wiser other than coming up against a few mobs that aren’t vulnerable to your narrow lines of attack or you know having to slog through trash fights while people who play the actual game fly through them.
Pretty much any build that plans to suck the whole game before finally getting that uber ability (and the EK capstone is far from that - if you’re critting you’re already winning) is theorycrafting at best.
How I can reform my party on ch4? I wanna visit the brothel of the then thousand delights, but if Arueshalae sees me doing that, she will be pissed off.
So far, I an loving the portrait of the Abyss. Everything and everyone is very chaotic and you will be backstabed many times. Also, only because you are really powerful on the material plane, doesn't means that you are powerful here. Thanadaemons(CR13) are regular guards on the lower parts of the town here. If you wanna read bellow, will be spoilers.
My main objective is to get enough renown to get a audience with the Nocticula among other things. So far, I had some fights on the arena and the arena battles are very chaotic. The judge got bored and started to cast spells in the area, I got taken as slave with a mysterious collar and my enslaves killed thenselves to death after a discussion of who betrayed who. I also bough and freed some slaves. But I don't have enough renown to get Nocticula's attention.
So far, the game is being a complete masterpiece. Chaotic evil is often retarded evil in video games. I an enjoying this part of the game a lot
In 0.5 I had to go back to base (starting area) and leave through the portal there (the one you use to enter the city the first time), teleporters didn't help.
They make no sense because you’ve yet to play this game instead of the one in your head. EKs lose the Bloodline. Martials have their own abilities that EKs lack.
Whether you’re casting or fighting EK is worse than the alternative. If you enjoy always being second-rate without having to learn any new abilities, ever, it’s the class for you.
Dragonshifter. I don't think there's a better class for this sort of thing. Either sorc/eldritch knight or sorc/scaled fist/eldritch knight, charisma is usually better for melees than intelligence.
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
He becomes large at lv 3, huge at lv 10, Gargantuan at 16 and Colossal at lv 20. Also gain a lot of STR/CON and some supernatural abilities. OwlCat could make it into a mythic path.
There are a lot of spells and abilities that buff Spell Pen, starting with the obvious Mythic Spell Pen. No reason not to be in the high 20s by that point.
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
Welp had to Cntl-Alt-Del out so that’s not good. Anyone know how Night Gamblers Quest is supposed to work? Sosiel showed up at HQ but couldn’t talk to him.
Says I’m supposed to talk to the theater kids but they’re not there.
Welp had to Cntl-Alt-Del out so that’s not good. Anyone know how Night Gamblers Quest is supposed to work? Sosiel showed up at HQ but couldn’t talk to him.
Says I’m supposed to talk to the theater kids but they’re not there.
Welp had to Cntl-Alt-Del out so that’s not good. Anyone know how Night Gamblers Quest is supposed to work? Sosiel showed up at HQ but couldn’t talk to him.
Says I’m supposed to talk to the theater kids but they’re not there.
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
Why are you melee Sorc? Like the man said you’re probably missing the whole point of Pathfinder if this is something you’re doing. In any event even if you were doing that what exactly does EK buy you?
A few BAB when Pathfinder melee is more about big hits and AoOs? If you watch your combat log ranged characters are the ones getting full attacks (and thus iteratives) because they don’t have to move. And you’re talking +40 AB vs 50AC in many cases so an extra couple AB doesn’t make much difference either.
And if for some reason you are shooting for a lot of attacks per turn you can just use Natural Attacks to get them independent of BAB in any case.
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
Guys, a question: what do you think of a Wizard 9/Enlightened Philosopher 1/Mystic Theurge 10/Angel build for a battlefield controller/damage dealer caster? Especially compared to a pure Enlightened Philosopher 20/Angel for the same role? Assuming merged spellbooks in both cases. The choice of Enlightened Philosopher and not some other sort of Oracle is for RP reasons (but Seeker would maybe also be fine, if it's much better mechanically).
Basically I want a Good-aligned caster with high INT and CHA (for RP reasons) who eventually gains access to 10th level spells, and whose powers (for RP reasons) are derived from his intellect and knowledge and not from some god. I'd appreciate comments/suggestions on how to build such a character.
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
What? BAB still increases your chances to hit, even if you transform into something. And your BAB number depends on your class, not the form your character assumes.
Guys, a question: what do you think of a Wizard 9/Enlightened Philosopher 1/Mystic Theurge 10/Angel build for a battlefield controller/damage dealer caster? Especially compared to a pure Enlightened Philosopher 20/Angel for the same role? Assuming merged spellbooks in both cases. The choice of Enlightened Philosopher and not some other sort of Oracle is for RP reasons (but Seeker would maybe also be fine, if it's much better mechanically).
Basically I want a Good-aligned caster with high INT and CHA (for RP reasons) who eventually gains access to 10th level spells, and whose powers (for RP reasons) are derived from his intellect and knowledge and not from some god. I'd appreciate comments/suggestions on how to build such a character.
What? BAB still increases your chances to hit, even if you transform into something. And your BAB number depends on your class, not the form your character assumes.
AB bonuses are plentiful, unique class abilities (and class levels for scaling abilities) are scarce. In addition shifting gives you attacks up front without having to wait for iteratives and they don’t come with inherent penalties for each attack.
Note: the additional attack DD gives you is Primary so has no penalty at all.
Seriously, when you guys are done reliving your glory days you should try this ruleset. It’s fun.
Wrath does have a new Druid archetype that focuses on making it good, but it’s a viable thing for several caster classes to do once they run out of spells, which shld happen less often in Wrath in any case.
EK is also made moot by Improved Abundant letting you spam Transformation in any case if you’re determined to fight without any abilities.
Version 0.6.1 is out! Crusade
- Portraits now appear in the initiative order
- Fixed issue with movements on the global map (the freezes that could happen)
- Fixed tooltips for the attacks
- Fixed issues with mana Companions
-Fixed Arueshalae’s dream in the
4th chapter
-Fixed Arueshalae’s romance in the 4th chapter
-You should be able to complete Greybor’s quest in chapter 4 now
-Lann no longer disappears forever after his quest in chapter 4
-Daeran’s gifts now depend on your reputation with him Zones
- Fixed the freezes when gargoyles attacked hellknights
- Blightmaw no longer dies upon summoning
- On Colyphyr you could use the portal without the key - fixed
- Pillar of skulls can speak again
- Fixed a number of problems with flying islands in Alushinyrra middle/upper city
- Better optimization of some locations
- Various fixes of some puzzles UI
- Fixed the icons in 4:3
- Fixed the UI for widescreen monitors
- Fixed the pause when talking to merchants
- Fixed the scrolling in combat log Mechanics
- Re-spec no longer affects mythic levels Misc
- Fixed flickering shadows
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
Any kind of Shifter doesn’t need EK because Natural Attacks ignore BAB, which is the main reason to want to play the class.
BAB ends up being far less important in Pathfinder in general which is one of the reasons new players are more attracted to it than veterans.
The one EK I was reasonably happy with was Octavia Rog4/Wiz6/AD1/EK9. R4 are the best DEX-melee levels in the game and she still got to 8th lvl spells (thx to CotW) and four attax. Difference there is she starts with Wiz1/Rog1 which restricts your options.
