Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Ontopoly]

Can't wait for this adorable jerk to pull a Yoshimo on my char.

I'll kill him before he gets the chance.

 

[Desiderius]

There are a lot of other sources of Good bypass that also give other benefits like the Holy Symbol of Iomidae, Bless Weapon, Holy Weapon (from Sosiel’s Good Domain or the Mythic Ability, +5 Enhancement, etc...).

Magical Weapon, Greater stacks with Enhancements from the weapon itself which makes +5 pretty doable by midgame. Not sure about Fists.

 

[TumblingTorin]

Magical Weapon, Greater stacks with Enhancements from the weapon itself which makes +5 pretty doable by midgame. Not sure about Fists.

Yes, Magical Weapon, Greater works on your fists as long as you have Improved Unarmed Strike.

 

[Desiderius]

Crusaders Edge works on Natural Attax so shld work too.

 

[Pink Eye]

>Monks focusing on unarmed attacks can take advantage of this item called Claws of the Sacred Beast (glove slot)
Intradesting. In Knights of the Chalice 2, monks lose unarmed bonuses and flurry of blows, if they wield claws. I guess it's different in Pathfinder? Or is bug?

 

[TumblingTorin]

>Monks focusing on unarmed attacks can take advantage of this item called Claws of the Sacred Beast (glove slot)
Intradesting. In Knights of the Chalice 2, monks lose unarmed bonuses and flurry of blows, if they wield claws. I guess it's different in Pathfinder? Or is bug?

They aren't actually weapons, they're gloves. I think there are gloves similar to this in Kingmaker. I think it added acid damage to unarmed damage.

 

[Pink Eye]

The trove is down for me at the moment. So I can't access the player hand book for Pathfinder; but I'm pretty sure a monk who wears clawed gloves will lose unarmed bonuses.
>I think there are gloves similar to this in Kingmaker
I don't remember any spiked gloves. I do remember a pair of gloves that gave you sneak attack bonus with unarmed.

 

[Sarkile]

The trove is down for me at the moment. So I can't access the player hand book for Pathfinder; but I'm pretty sure a monk who wears clawed gloves will lose unarmed bonuses.
>I think there are gloves similar to this in Kingmaker
I don't remember any spiked gloves. I do remember a pair of gloves that gave you sneak attack bonus with unarmed.

Despite the name, I thought the Owlcat items mentioned were just gloves. Not actual clawed weapons.

 

[Desiderius]

Wow, Wintersun is rounding into shape as one of the best areas in cRPG history. There’s got to be ten different fights that test you in different ways, four different stories intersecting including main quest, 10-15 unique items, Easter Egg reward for full exploration which isn’t easy with winding multi-layered map, all kinds of skill checks.

Has it all.

 

[Efe]

It was a faceroll previously, wasnt even buffed when I ran into that demon group near middle.
got me real bad

 

[Desiderius]

Playing on Core w/o Bard/Alch/FB/Cleric and it's a very nice low(er) maintenance fit.

Four reloads but three because Breath of Life + AoO from Standing Up is a Nonbo and I hate paying for Res scrolls or whatever. If I was paying full attention and using the full Rez experience could have done without any but perfect difficulty sweet spot.

 

[Desiderius]

Takes awhile to get there because Pal is so Feat starved but pretty sure at this point that Shield Bash Seelah is the way to go (since she comes with Shield Focus)

Spoiler

That Infiltrator is an SOB with the Keen Longspear. 39 AC at lvl 11 on Core is no joke.

Probably still want to get your UMD up for the Image wand if you want her to tank the hard stuff though. Obv summons or whatever also an option. At least he doesn't do a ton with each hit so Frigid Touch stagger could also work..

Aeon Rectify State ability is decent since it leaves your buffs on but as can be seen here got some kinks to work out.

Nenio's sixth level Illusion spell does a great job softening groups up for her other ones. Plus they have to save or sleep each round following. This is another group you don't want to just stumble upon.

You can see the results of that strategy here. Lann riding the Dog with Mounted Combat Feats ended up more or less soloing much of this fight.

The first step along that road to near wipe here. She was about to own them with a Phantasmal Web and instead died instantly. Good AI. Was lazy with her Mirror Image and paid the price.

 

[Reinhardt]

Can't wait for this adorable jerk to pull a Yoshimo on my char.

I'll kill him before he gets the chance.

I'll kill almost every companion. They look like some evil infidel demon worshippers.

 

[LannTheStupid]

evil infidel demon worshippers.

Meaning they are amazing?

 

[Reinhardt]

evil infidel demon worshippers.

Meaning they are amazing?

Only amazing evil infidel demon worshippers are dead evil infidel demon worshippers. So, i guess, yes - they are amazing. Or soon will become amazing.

 

[Desiderius]

Doggo also has Evasion, iteratives (Pal Smilo doesn't so stuck on two attax), Trip built into Bite

Spoiler

Seelah has insane Saves but got killt by two consecutive Reflex crit misses. Doggo shrugged them off.

MC AC isn't great (she does have Shield spell and doesn't even have most of her buffs up) but she has Mirror Image and picks up DR3/Evil every three levels. Aeon gives her Stunning Barrier as well.

Sometimes they luck out on the saves (this comes from taking Mythic Spell Pen before Mythic Spell Focus or would have had higher DC) and get you - this preceded the near wipe above. You can see poor Regill stuck back there in Stealth. That didn't help.

With Abundant Casting Oracles get a shit ton of casts but Daeran does pretty well in melee too. This is the Light Mace from the Citadel Tower that procs a Stun on every hit.

I like to try to handle Trickery with my main. You can get it as a class skill from Background and equipment helps. I think I took the +4 Persuasion/Trickery Feat too.

This fight is just so good. Big Treant boss with high AC, at least DR20/Slashing, Regen 20, and 50% Fortification starts out surrounded by Babau that pretty much can't touch him, though they can touch you and more teleport in throughout the fight.

He is vulnerable to Fire though. There is a Mythic Ability that turns off Crit Misses - so tempted.

He offed Seelah in one round first time I wandered in. Image Wand to the rescue again. We'll get that AC up soon - tho Mark of Justice is bugged to leave out the Pal itself, and she's really missing that extra 5 AC.

20DR/Slashing is no joke. As you can see I've got damage types diversified to get around that.

Ah I had forgotten - the thing also has a decent Trip. Unlucky here. Cast Breath of Life on her twice and she died again twice standing up.



Shld give you option to stay down in that situation. Or stand up carefully as Full Round action.

There are indeed in game solutions - like bringing Greybor or Wolj to turn off enemy AoOs.

 

[Desiderius]

Speaking of Wolj:

How many Sneak Dice does a level 11 Vivi have?

Spoiler

Bloodrager MC working as designed. Dazzling Display of Pain. Regrettably hard to get enough Reach to do it consistently until Legendary Proportions.

When playing a squad without Bard or Freebooter you have to make up the difference somehow. Reformed Fiend has some tools. STR needs some work.

Speaking of Dazzling Display of Pain, Daeran can spamm Order's Wrath which nukes, dazes, and only hits Chaotic (Neutral for half). Four permanent team members are all Lawful, and one of the Neutrals is the one casting the spell.

Works like the Deadfire Paralyzing Freezeball in this setting.

Likewise Regill has a Slow tacked onto his Smite Chaos. Can also get a Silence effect.

Sometimes the TB really gets there, sometimes Leading Strike doesn't work. Reg was not messing around here.

Some (most really) of these items need work. A lot of work.

On the other hand there are so many places to get items like this that are just sublime (Holy is just unbelievably good in this setting and triggering on crit abilities are perfect for items with wide crit ranges). Whatever weapon you like there's a great one somewhere that you can find reasonably early.

 

[Pink Eye]

You know what we need. An option to skip the god damned janky cutscenes. Had to watch the stupid prologue for the millionth time. All because I wanted to see monk mount. I hate that crap. It's cute on first playthrough, but becomes annoying on recurring playthroughs.

 

[Desiderius]

KKKombo!

Spoiler

Along with the DR3/Evil every three levels she's playing more like a Barb than a Barb does.

Different kind of combo here. Dog trips, Daeran's proc Stuns, and Derakni AC down to single digits on Core Difficulty.

She had insane SR so back to melee again for the rich kid. Looks like the Bell in the chapel is providing Good Hope here. No one can cast it regrettably. Look at Nenio's Snowball owning. It bypasses SR so she always has a couple on hand.

Focus on Spell Pen paying off for Nenio. She has a Belt that is supposed to summon a Demon when she casts a lvl 6 spell but it isn't working yet. Procs in general been pretty hit or miss.

It's AoE but it's good enough for one or two targets and with Abundant Casting he can spam them.

This damage tacked onto everything is the Mythic Ability Leading Strike and Seelah has it with Shield Bash and Reg with Double Weapon so it triggers a lot. I think MC might have it with Cleave as well.

Made Lann an Urban Hunter for the Perception bonus but also the free CM Feats let you get him into melee while Mounted which is otherwise a pain. Occasionally they even land. Main goal is to take advantage of the Combat Reflexes he starts with, which means getting him into the thick of it.

Force Realty isn't bad. Better than other Dispels because you add your Mythic Level, doesn't Dispel debuffs, and things like Mirror Image and Displacement are relevant until you get to True Seeing, Mass which I may not get to without a Cleric.

 

[Desiderius]

You know what we need. An option to skip the god damned janky cutscenes. Had to watch the stupid prologue for the millionth time. All because I wanted to see monk mount. I hate that crap. It's cute on first playthrough, but becomes annoying on recurring playthroughs.

Press Enter

 

[Pink Eye]

Thanks brother. That worked.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Thanks brother. That worked.

Dude WTF, that was the highlight of the last patch :D

 

[Xamenos]

Thanks brother. That worked.

Dude WTF, that was the highlight of the last patch :D

It wasn't about MONKS, he skipped that part.

 

[Desiderius]

He’s been playing KotC

 

[Pink Eye]

Yeah. That's all I've been playing as of late:

It's like an addiction to me :D