Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Desiderius]

Again, cope, seethe.

That screenshot is from an earlier playthrough, but it does look like it may have the first one where I focused on Divine to unlock Arcane (much) earlier than you were here. The main Unfair playthrough I got it earlier than this while also building the Brewery town to unlock the Warden by this time as well. Unfortunately I cleared out most old saves when I started playing modded. Earliest I have in that playthrough is mid 4012 I think.

Letting 1300 BP lie around without productively investing it means you have a bright future in corporate finance but its a lousy way to make sure you get your items on time. Yeah, you've got a haul when you get back from Trobold. So did I. Why didn't you use it to get your Kingdom going?

 

[Average Manatee]

How can you play the game and have no idea of this mechanic?

Apparently you weren't aware of the mechanic either since you made up your own mechanic. Including not knowing that kingdom ranks have always been worth 2 points towards the DC checks.

3 DC is pretty close to irrelevant though, especially when most of the time you can don't have many options on who to send since everyone is tied up. It's also apparently a rare thing that only a few events have since I checked two and no advisors triggered that DC change.

Letting 1300 BP lie around without productively investing it means you have a bright future in corporate finance but its a lousy way to make sure you get your items on time. Yeah, you've got a haul when you get back from Trobold. So did I. Why didn't you use it to get your Kingdom going?

I see I need to repeat myself, since as a retard you can't read well and need things explained multiple times to understand. As I said in the original post for that image, my cities were full. The buildings were built. There was nothing to buy. Every usage of BP was exhausted. Going back to the original original thesis this discussion is premised on, this shows that BP is not the limiting factor for kingdom development, only player time is.

 

[Desiderius]

since everyone is tied up

If.you.would.unlock.your.advisors.you'd.have.more.free.

You guys are right. He is autistic.

my cities were full. The buildings were built. There was nothing to buy. Every usage of BP was exhausted.

Yeah, that's because you haven't even unlocked North Narlmarches yet, because you haven't gotten Community to III. Since that unlocks Relations you'd think that would be a priority. If that extra region unlocks a Town then there's the use for your BP. If I play again I may focus more on MIL and COM to unlock those advisors instead of DIV. Probably would be cheaper since it requires less spam of the same building (Shrines around a central Monument).

Gotta hand it to you, you RP LE exceedingly well. Nothing LG enjoy more than pwning LE in public, plus people get to:

(a) see that there's actually a lot to KM after all. Would be the same for Crusade if a modder could add some HoMM-style adversaries.

(b) learn some ideas to improve their game

So by all means continue the clown show.

3 DC is pretty close to irrelevant though

The idiocy never ends. Increases chance of success in the example posted by 15/35 = 3/7 = almost half. If you use a bonus point IIRC you'd cut failure chance from 40% to 25% using the better advisor. This is akin to saying that a +3 weapon is irrelevant.

 

[Desiderius]

We all sell our stuff from adventuring (and everybody goes to Trobold). Most hit all the areas with items in them on the way to or from quests once we know where they are (second or third playthrough).

The difference of getting the early jump to unlock advisors and artisans (and doing their quests ASAP) is that we get that much gold (and more) by having artisans show up to give us valuable items at the end of every rank up or region annex/upgrade. Also gives you (many) more chances to get the items you want.

Everything you're arguing and posting just illustrates the extent that you're not doing this, or not doing it nearly as well as you could.

 

[Average Manatee]

since everyone is tied up

If.you.would.unlock.your.advisors.you'd.have.more.free.

You stupid nigger. You have no evidence I don't have them unlocked before you. I would bet that I infact do, since you are provably worse at me at developing your kingdom.

Yeah, that's because you haven't even unlocked North Narlmarches yet, because you haven't gotten Community to III. Since that unlocks Relations you'd think that would be a priority. If that extra region unlocks a Town then there's the use for your BP. If I play again I may focus more on MIL and COM to unlock those advisors instead of DIV. Probably would be cheaper since it requires less spam of the same building (Shrines around a central Monument).

Look, dumbfuck. You didn't have it unlocked even a month after me. Don't hurt yourself trying to rationalize this.

The idiocy never ends. Increases chance of success in the example posted by 15/35 = 3/7 = almost half. If you use a bonus point IIRC you'd cut failure chance from 40% to 25% using the better advisor. This is akin to saying that a +3 weapon is irrelevant.

The stat advantage isn't irrelevant, the overall usage is since you can't get it on many events and advisors aren't always flexible. You also assume all advisors are the same skill.

Furthermore it looks like you're awful at leveling your advisors in the first place to have them so weak. I don't think I've ever seen an event with a chance of success as low as 35%

We all sell our stuff from adventuring (and everybody goes to Trobold). Most hit all the areas with items in them on the way to or from quests once we know where they are (second or third playthrough).

The difference of getting the early jump to unlock advisors and artisans (and doing their quests ASAP) is that we get that much gold (and more) by having artisans show up to give us valuable items at the end of every rank up or region annex/upgrade. Also gives you (many) more chances to get the items you want.

Everything you're arguing and posting just illustrates the extent that you're not doing this, or not doing it nearly as well as you could.

I have every artisan unlocked and quest finished as soon as I get them. You really can't stop making up your fantasies can you?

This whole discussion started with you whining that you don't have BP. Why are you pretending you are good at the game?

 

[Desiderius]

Evidence? Isn't isn't unlocked because you don't have your Community stat to III yet. That's the prerequisite to unlock it. It's in the pic you posted.

In the pic you reposted it looks like I hadn't done Trobold yet because if you wait you get another quest at Bart's House.

Do you need me to teach you everything?

It was also from a playthrough before I figured out to take the loan, so I was sucking there almost as bad as you do. The main obvious difference was that I was on the verge of unlocking Arcane already even without the loan while you were nowhere close.

I don't think I've ever seen an event with a chance of success as low as 35%

Sometimes the Opportunities have higher DCs than the Problems. They're things you can take a flyer on if you have free advisors. Which I often do since I don't dick around leaving 1.300 BP in the bank instead of unlocking them.

Looks like that shot was from a playthrough where I was experimenting (you know that thing you can do to figure out how to do things instead of just sucking and crying about the game?) with Jub on Espionage.

Most experiments are failures. That one was. But not all.

I have every artisan unlocked and quest finished as soon as I get them. You really can't stop making up your fantasies can you?

And... you're not getting them in a timely manner because your ranks aren't high enough yet. Thanks for posting a pic to confirm. If you unlock North Narlmarches you can even use Sweet Teeth to advance the artisan quests before you'd normally be able to.

Once I figured out to take the loan I was able to build the buildings necessary (in this case that would be Brewery towns which are pretty cheap since they don't require duplicate buildings) to start ranking up while you were still "exploring" or doing quests as fast as you get them. Outside of artisan quests that isn't necessary.

Also figured out that all the discount projects are a waste of time. I still get all the loot on the way to doing artisan quests, saving companion/plot quests to do on the way.

 

[Desiderius]

Thanks for motivating me to do another full playthrough. Been wanting to try out some mods this time. Once I finish a modded Wiz 8 run I'll get on that and post some pics so you can learn how to ease your frustrations.

 

[Average Manatee]

Evidence? Isn't isn't unlocked because you don't have your Community stat to III yet. That's the prerequisite to unlock it. It's in the pic you posted.

In the pic you reposted it looks like I hadn't done Trobold yet because if you wait you get another quest at Bart's House.

Do you need me to teach you everything?

It was also from a playthrough before I figured out to take the loan, so I was sucking there almost as bad as you do. The main obvious difference was that I was on the verge of unlocking Arcane already even without the loan while you were nowhere close.

Yes... it's almost like it takes time to rank up and unlock advisors. That's the whole fucking point, retard. Have you paid any attention to what the conversation is about? Advisors are hardlocked by time spend upgrading them. You essentially can't play the Kingdom game better than I have in the screenshot provided, where I calculated the exact minimum path to complete the chapter and all areas and did zero rests through the whole chapter. Literally all time that could possibly be spent was spent on ranking up advisors. I think I lost a few hours due to being overburdened (med encumbrance) for a few trips but that was is.

re: arcane I immediately spent the time unlocking new regions afterwards, building the cities and ranked it up so that I could teleport into unexplored areas. It's literally impossible to do so beforehand due to a lack of time.

Sometimes the Opportunities have higher DCs than the Problems. They're things you can take a flyer on if you have free advisors. Which I often do since I don't dick around leaving 1.300 BP in the bank instead of unlocking them.

Looks like that shot was from a playthrough where I was experimenting (you know that thing you can do to figure out how to do things instead of just sucking and crying about the game?) with Jub on Espionage.

Most experiments are failures. That one was. But not all.

Go ahead and show me where you can unlock advisors with BP. I'll wait.

And... you're not getting them in a timely manner because your ranks aren't high enough yet. Thanks for posting a pic to confirm. If you unlock North Narlmarches you can even use Sweet Teeth to advance the artisan quests before you'd normally be able to.

Once I figured out to take the loan I was able to build the buildings necessary (in this case that would be Brewery towns which are pretty cheap since they don't require duplicate buildings) to start ranking up while you were still "exploring" or doing quests as fast as you get them. Outside of artisan quests that isn't necessary.

Also figured out that all the discount projects are a waste of time. I still get all the loot on the way to doing artisan quests, saving companion/plot quests to do on the way.

"just unlock all your advisors and all your regions in zero time".

I guess you admit that you use cheats?

Meanwhile you don't even have the fucking north narlmarches unlocked yourself.

 

[Efe]

If I recall correctly its the base stat and not the upgrade rank that unlocks slots.
Since you can focus on buying buildings that boost a stat of your choice, you can unlock advisors with bp.

 

[Iskramor]

Camelia,Lann,Ember,Succubus,Greybor,
Any advice for cleric MC?

 

[Stoned Ape]

Camelia,Lann,Ember,Succubus,Greybor,
Any advice for cleric MC?

Which mythic path/alignment do you want to play?

Do you want a cleric who mainly casts or a melee focused one?

 

[Serus]

Did one of the leading autists in this thread just, non ironically, called this... whatever it is that is going in this thread for the last couple of pages

a dominance contest between two males

?? I don't even...

Additional points for those who can guess which one without having read the original post.

 

[Iskramor]

Camelia,Lann,Ember,Succubus,Greybor,
Any advice for cleric MC?

Which mythic path/alignment do you want to play?

Do you want a cleric who mainly casts or a melee focused one?

Azata path caster MC

 

[mondblut]

a dominance contest between two males

 

[Stoned Ape]

Camelia,Lann,Ember,Succubus,Greybor,
Any advice for cleric MC?

Which mythic path/alignment do you want to play?

Do you want a cleric who mainly casts or a melee focused one?

Azata path caster MC

In that case, I'd probably go for an Ecclesitheurge. They can put the spells from their 1st domain into normal spell slots.

For a CG character:
Caedan: 1st domain Charm, 2nd Chaos (enchantment focus) *
Calistra: 1st Charm, 2nd Luck, Trickery, or Chaos (enchantment) *
Gorum 1st Destruction, 2nd Chaos (necromancy)
Sarenrae 1st Fire, 2nd Healing, Good, or Glory (evocation) - this will overlap with Ember to a degree.
Unfortunately, I don't think any of Dezna's domains really have a spell list that would benefit an Ecclesitheurge. Chaos is probably the best bet.

*these two probably fit the feel of Azata best.

For a CN character replace Sarenrae with Gozreh 1st Domain Weather or Air, second Animal (evocation), or Nethys 1st Domain Destruction, 2nd Magic (necromancy).

I'd probably go Human Str 7 Dex 14 Con 14 Int 11 Wis 19 Cha 14 with pickpocket background for +2 Initiative. 4 skills (probably trickery, lore: religion, perception, persuasion). You'll probably want to use a crossbow.

I'd probably pick Impossible Domain: Community after getting to 8th level.

 

[Desiderius]

If I recall correctly its the base stat and not the upgrade rank that unlocks slots.
Since you can focus on buying buildings that boost a stat of your choice, you can unlock advisors with bp.

It’s both (I think, it’s definitely base stat which you need to rank up to three in the first place). You need the buildings to get the base stat up (which takes BP) and the time to rank them up (instead of gallivanting around the countryside like well below Average Manatee).

I’ll see if I can get some pics up this week to walk the delusional retards through the process. Pretty obvious how he came to suck this badly with this approach.

I’ll be posting in the correct thread to allow this one to return to Wrath.

 

[The_Mask]

If anything, this whole intermezzo has made it perfectly clear that the whole HoMM-lite minigame WOTR has, is far less entertaining than even what P:K had.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Did one of the leading autists in this thread just, non ironically, called this... whatever it is that is going in this thread for the last couple of pages

a dominance contest between two males

?? I don't even...

Additional points for those who can guess which one without having read the original post.

Are you saying he's wrong? I've figured that's exactly what's been going on.

Spoiler

One adaptive hypothesis to explain the occurrence and maintenance of SSB [same-sex sexual behaviour] is that it acts to intensify or diminish aggression by providing males with a means to reinforce or resolve dominance.

...

Our findings provide the first empirical support for the hypothesis that SSB is an extension of male–male competition. Furthermore, our results suggest that SSB may act as a display, allowing males to resolve dominance hierarchies without escalating into an injurious fight.

Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347216000087

They're just sorting out which one's going to play catcher or if they're going to take turns.

 

[mediocrepoet]

New patch: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1184370/eventcomments/5595176692465786002

This seems handy:

• Vulpine Pounce now properly gives the pounce

Patch Notes

Crusaders!

The update 1.3.7b has arrived! We’ve fixed more items and mechanical issues, a broken condition for (spoiler!) the secret ending, and some graphic issues. Read more below, but
beware of possible plot spoilers!


And don’t forget to update your mods if you play with them.


Quests

• One of the conditions for the secret ending didn't work correctly in a certain case: – fixed.

Areas

• A scripted opening of the gate in Blackwater didn't always trigger properly – fixed;
• Forn Autumn Haze could stay in Drezen even after his death – fixed;
• Using one of the portals in the Middle City of Alushinyrra could lead to a character getting stuck – fixed.

Crusade

• Wenduag could participate in the crusade council meetings during chapter 3 from behind the zone borders – fixed.

Classes & Mechanics

• Animal Focus — Mouse now properly gives evasion to animal companion;
• Desna's Bell Toll, Desna's Lullaby Harp, Tree's Friend buffs no longer apply to all the companions;
• Extra Mythic Ability mythic feat didn't allow choosing Thundering Blows – fixed;
• Fixed the incorrect appliance of Cookie For a Song buff while resting on the Azata Island;
• Fixed the incorrect duration of all resting buffs from Azata Island;
• Ghouls are now fully undead;
• Glitterdust and Starlight spells now suppress Greater Invisibility;
• Inspire Rage didn't share the Scent rage power with the nearby allies – fixed;
• Inspired Rage deactivated with a delay if an ally decided to deactivate it – fixed;
• Now Regill continues his auto level up after level 18, stubbornly meeting the blows of fate;
• Now, the skeleton fighter will be able to choose a weapon training group;
• Order of the Star cavalier's Calling now works as intended and allows you to choose its bonus;
• Skald is now able to select wizard, cleric, and druid secrets when choosing the Loremaster prestige class;
• Thassilonian specialists now have a Dismiss spell cantrip for area spells, and it works in old saves and for all schools;
• The DC for most mythic abilities now is 10 + half character level + mythic rank + max ability modifier;
• The Echolocation spell didn't allow to ignore Mirror Image – fixed;
• The Negative Energy Mastery ability now works correctly with the Kinetic Blade;
• The Wracking Ray spell now deals the correct amount of ability damage;
• Touch of Glory now works as intended;
• Vulpine Pounce now properly gives the pounce;
• The Sold Youth debuff description was updated.

Items

• A new meal recipe for the Inevitable Excess DLC was missing; now it can be found in the chest with all other recipes near the Threshold entrance;
• Ambrosial Attire of Arcane Annihilation will be equipped into the shirt slot now;
• Battle Mage's Headband now grants intelligence bonus instead of wisdom;
• Clemency of Shadows used to summon a spider when the character was invisible – fixed;
• Embrace of the Faceless now works as it should and also works with Selective Metamagic;
• Finger of the Heiress heavy pick now works as intended;
• Gloves of Resourceful Magus now work with Eldritch Scion Magus Archetype;
• Happy Traveler's Shirt now works only in combat;
• Magician's Ring will no longer have duplicates;
• Ring of Sacred Touch now works correctly with touch healing spells;
• Robe of Order now works according to its description;
• Singing Steel Breastplate now counts as light armor for armor proficiencies and speeds up Bard and Skald perfomances;
• The Bound of Possibility now works correctly for the Angel mythic path;
• The Exquisite Chain Barding armor now grants +2 dexterity bonus;
• The Lizard Tail belt now correctly adds AC to companions and animal companions;
• The Whistling Killer dart now works according to its description.

Misc

• Sometimes you couldn't see in the description where you found an item – fixed;
• Animal companion sometimes moved at the wrong angle – fixed;
• Goggles of Pure Sight now suit the elves properly.

 

[Cyberarmy]

screen?

Spoiler

Sorry for late reply, I was on vacation :D
This is an older save, couldn't find higher leveled ones, probably deleted...
Still lacking some equipment, buffs and my MC got lich sickness (-2to attacks, damage, saves and etc.) But still got 27 at that level with 10 adamantine. Also immune to sneaks, critcals and paralysis and sleep thanks to Crossblooded and taking its level 20 buffs early thanks to mythic power.

End game weapon was a scimitar because of crits. Shield bash builds really shine with higher crit rangeç

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I like your character portrait, Cyberarmy.

 

[Cyberarmy]

I like your character portrait, Cyberarmy.

Yeah me too, he's going to be all my undead, deathknight portrait for a long time. Here if anyone want to use it as well.

Spoiler

 

[Infinitron]

Coming August 11th:



https://www.gamespress.com/Join-the-crusade-Pathfinder-Wrath-of-the-Righteous-comes-to-consoles-o

Cyprus, Nicosia 14 July 2022: Owlcat Games and Prime Matter are pleased to announce that the multi award-winning, critically-acclaimed Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous is coming to consoles on 29 September 2022.

The epic RPG will be available on both physical and digital formats for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One (PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X / S via backward compatibility); as well as Nintendo Switch via the Cloud.
The Enhanced Edition of Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous will become the standard version for the console release, and also will be available for all PC owners of the game on 29 September for free.

The Treasure of the Midnight Isles DLC
In addition to the eagerly-anticipated console announcement, Owlcat Games also confirmed that The Treasure of the Midnight Isles—the third premium DLC for Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous—will launch 11 August 2022. The islands—scattered across the dark abyssal ocean—hide treasures untold (and horrors unspeakable). Board the grim cursed ship and venture into the unknown to find your fortune… or demise.

DLC Teaser Trailer The Treasure of The Midnight Isles | Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous

• Explore the vast archipelago full of treasures and dangers in a stand-alone rogue-like mode, or as a part of the main campaign
• Try out different builds and party compositions, taking advantage of the enormous variety of the Pathfinder role-playing system – including the mythic paths
• Death is just a setback! If a party perishes, its progress can still help you in subsequent playthroughs
• Equip new magic weapons, put new magic potions and scrolls on your belt, and challenge both old and new enemies
• Discover the secret of the ship that takes you on your journeys – and the truth about the ultimate treasure you're seeking

Prepare for your trip to the Midnight Isles with a 50% discount for Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous in the Epic Games Store Summer Sale. Also, the Mythic Edition and Commander Edition are available at a 45% discount. The Epic Games Store Summer Sale starts today and ends 28 July 2022.

 

[The_Mask]

The DC for most mythic abilities now is 10 + half character level + mythic rank + max ability modifier;

 

[Thonius]

No ratfolk, wtf why even... just... cmon!