Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Grunker]

duality of conjuration and summoning seems completely busted

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Is there any information about content of season 2 dlc?

We technically only know for sure that there will be a Through the Ashes 2. There's some expectation for a Shifter Companion + Shifter Class DLC but that's datamine driven. Beyond that there's the possibility the last survey is what will decide the third S2DLC.

Thanks for answer, I guess third DLC will be a wild card. *shudders in horror after imagining thousands of shitposters voting for puzzle DLC*

 

[Daidre]

duality of conjuration and summoning seems completely busted

Tankard of Free Spirit is ridiculously good too. Azatas do not do any serious damage, but starting from level 9 it spawns 2 creatures with the Mirror Images that could be a solid distraction.
And now, when the Book of Dreams started working, it affects Duality of Conjuration and Summoning too, spawning up to 4 creatures.

 

[Delterius]

Is there any information about content of season 2 dlc?

We technically only know for sure that there will be a Through the Ashes 2. There's some expectation for a Shifter Companion + Shifter Class DLC but that's datamine driven. Beyond that there's the possibility the last survey is what will decide the third S2DLC.

Thanks for answer, I guess third DLC will be a wild card. *shudders in horror after imagining thousands of shitposters voting for puzzle DLC*

I think it's gonna be a struggle between people who want to pay for romance and people who want to pay for mythic path content. Source: my vision quest.

 

[Desiderius]

duality of conjuration and summoning seems completely busted

Tankard of Free Spirit is ridiculously good too. Azatas do not do any serious damage, but starting from level 9 it spawns 2 creatures with the Mirror Images that could be a solid distraction.
And now, when the Book of Dreams started working, it affects Duality of Conjuration and Summoning too, spawning up to 4 creatures.

First Tankard summon likes to Stun your own party. That’s my job.

duality of conjuration and summoning seems completely busted

Big reason I like to have either Daeran or Reg in party (or sometimes Wend). Though the Soul Eaters have their uses too.

Just have to be ready for when they turn against you.

 

[ArchAngel]

So what Inquisitor subclass is best for melee build? Best attack and best damage. Mythic skills give you unlimited judgement?
Can some Warpriest do better?

 

[Desiderius]

So what Inquisitor subclass is best for melee build? Best attack and best damage. Mythic skills give you unlimited judgement?
Can some Warpriest do better?

Warpriest relies a lot on short duration stuff too. Theoretically Tactical Leader or Judge but they’re both pretty clunky. Probably just base Inquisitor since giving up unlimited Judgement is such a high cost. Just wait to pick it up as fifth or sixth companion since it takes awhile to get going.

Inq doesn’t get Archon’s tho.

 

[razvedchiki]

sanctified slayer that i have tried is good, gets studied target/sneak attack/bane.
looses judgement.

 

[Desiderius]

sanctified slayer that i have tried is good, gets studied target/sneak attack/bane.
looses judgement.

Base class has Bane. Slayer also gets some Slayer Talents, but very backloaded.

 

[Grunker]

Now that's a roll

 

[Haplo]

So what Inquisitor subclass is best for melee build? Best attack and best damage. Mythic skills give you unlimited judgement?
Can some Warpriest do better?

Sanctified Slayer IMO.
Its likely that a Warpriest can do better in short bursts, particularly Cult Leader, but Inquisitor has Domains with their über buffs and access to stuff like Animal Domain and Travel PLUS is a much better skill monkey.

sanctified slayer that i have tried is good, gets studied target/sneak attack/bane.
looses judgement.

Base class has Bane. Slayer also gets some Slayer Talents, but very backloaded.

Sanctified Slayer gets Bane as well.

 

[Grunker]

Book of Dreams wording says "when active", but there's no way to activate it?

 

[Haplo]

To sum up, Underground Chemist/Grenadier Trickster gets:

(1) Best Dispel in game (Mythic Trickery 2)
(2) Infused Personal Spells/Potions (and Potions Enhanced/Extended*, also get Brew Potions from UC that Grenadier lost)
(3) Free Finesse/Dex-to-damage from UC, Martial Prof from Grenadier (perfect Kukri set-up)
(4) Double Bombs from Grenadier Alchemical Weapon, Sneaks (with Weakening/Debilitating) on Bombs from UC
(5) Melee turns on Feral Mutagen/Wings, Keen Kitsune (ideal stat bonuses) gives Pounce, good melee saves Bombs for when Touch is needed, Alchemical Weapon can also put Bombs on weapon attax

Dips are good!

* - turns on crappy found potions like Scroll Savant does with Scrolls

That's a pretty cool, versatile build.
Aeon has way better dispels, but that's nitpicking.

One question: why use puny kukuris, when you could choose handaxes? You're saving the axes for another char?

 

[Daidre]

Book of Dreams wording says "when active", but there's no way to activate it?

Just put it in the belt slot.

 

[Desiderius]

To sum up, Underground Chemist/Grenadier Trickster gets:

(1) Best Dispel in game (Mythic Trickery 2)
(2) Infused Personal Spells/Potions (and Potions Enhanced/Extended*, also get Brew Potions from UC that Grenadier lost)
(3) Free Finesse/Dex-to-damage from UC, Martial Prof from Grenadier (perfect Kukri set-up)
(4) Double Bombs from Grenadier Alchemical Weapon, Sneaks (with Weakening/Debilitating) on Bombs from UC
(5) Melee turns on Feral Mutagen/Wings, Keen Kitsune (ideal stat bonuses) gives Pounce, good melee saves Bombs for when Touch is needed, Alchemical Weapon can also put Bombs on weapon attax

Dips are good!

* - turns on crappy found potions like Scroll Savant does with Scrolls

That's a pretty cool, versatile build.
Aeon has way better dispels, but that's nitpicking.

One question: why use puny kukuris, when you could choose handaxes? You're saving the axes for another char?

Just an example of a Martial Light weapon that Rogues usually don’t get. Are the Handaxes better? If so use those.

Since I’m getting precision immunity bypass figured I’d go for wide crit range. Are there two Handaxes with 18-20?

Since the Greater Dispel nerf Mythic Trickery isn’t quite as good, but it can get higher chance on each one. Guess this thing wouldn’t want to be at melee range against things it would want to Dispel so maybe going Aeon would be better. UC4 ability should make Aeon Bane work on Bombs.

Scratch that, already using Swift on Alchemical Weapon.

 

[Grunker]

I love that Lost Chapel looks like a linear plot location when you arrive when in reality it's a fuckhueg map full of side content. Structurally, this game is kind of bizarre lol

 

[Desiderius]

I love that Lost Chapel looks like a linear plot location when you arrive when in reality it's a fuckhueg map full of side content. Structurally, this game is kind of bizarre lol

You can (and probably should) come back for the side content (same with Leper Cave). Similar to coming back for Blightmaw/Playful/the Ghost that casts Rifts.

 

[ArchAngel]

So what Inquisitor subclass is best for melee build? Best attack and best damage. Mythic skills give you unlimited judgement?
Can some Warpriest do better?

Sanctified Slayer IMO.
Its likely that a Warpriest can do better in short bursts, particularly Cult Leader, but Inquisitor has Domains with their über buffs and access to stuff like Animal Domain and Travel PLUS is a much better skill monkey.

sanctified slayer that i have tried is good, gets studied target/sneak attack/bane.
looses judgement.

Base class has Bane. Slayer also gets some Slayer Talents, but very backloaded.

Sanctified Slayer gets Bane as well.

I already played Sanctified, while he is nice, I think judgments are better if there are no limits. Also Swift compared to Studied that you need to sneak or spend move for most of the game.

I was also thinking about that Seeker Oracle but that is Charisma spontaneous caster and I need wisdom version so I can use that mirror item that gives me attack and AC.

Other option would be Shaman but their access to spells is very limited although Hexes could be useful for 2 man party.

Of course I can also be Cleric or Druid but neither are spontaneous so I will lose the bonus of Tailwind.
Although Elemental Rampager could be nice, it can turn into Dragon with Transformation and then use Elemental Rampage for +5 to attacks and damage with all those attacks (but druid does not have Divine Power so weaker overall).

 

[Grunker]

I love that Lost Chapel looks like a linear plot location when you arrive when in reality it's a fuckhueg map full of side content. Structurally, this game is kind of bizarre lol

You can (and probably should) come back for the side content (same with Leper Cave).

I'm almost done with the map - on Corruption level 1. Duality-thingy is a real carry at this level and I have Last Stand on MC now.

 

[Desiderius]

I love that Lost Chapel looks like a linear plot location when you arrive when in reality it's a fuckhueg map full of side content. Structurally, this game is kind of bizarre lol

You can (and probably should) come back for the side content (same with Leper Cave).

I'm almost done with the map - on Corruption level 1. Duality-thingy is a real carry at this level and I have Last Stand on MC now.

No reason to. Main Camp is right there. Content doesn’t go anywhere when you leave map after killing Nulk.

Neurotically saving time just makes your army (and eventually infra) weaker. Infra is what wins Ch 5 and Army Ch 3. This is the opposite dynamic to P:K KM.

Unfair Maugla is no joke.

 

[ArchAngel]

Hmm I am not sure why I should take base Inquisitor over Tactical leader unless it is buggy.

 

[santino27]

i luv this gaem

IMO, everything through Drezen is really strong. Then it loses a lot of focus once the crusade kicks into high gear and getting anywhere takes forever. Alush*** would resolve that, content-wise, if I didn't hate the mechanics.

 

[Haplo]

To sum up, Underground Chemist/Grenadier Trickster gets:

(1) Best Dispel in game (Mythic Trickery 2)
(2) Infused Personal Spells/Potions (and Potions Enhanced/Extended*, also get Brew Potions from UC that Grenadier lost)
(3) Free Finesse/Dex-to-damage from UC, Martial Prof from Grenadier (perfect Kukri set-up)
(4) Double Bombs from Grenadier Alchemical Weapon, Sneaks (with Weakening/Debilitating) on Bombs from UC
(5) Melee turns on Feral Mutagen/Wings, Keen Kitsune (ideal stat bonuses) gives Pounce, good melee saves Bombs for when Touch is needed, Alchemical Weapon can also put Bombs on weapon attax

Dips are good!

* - turns on crappy found potions like Scroll Savant does with Scrolls

That's a pretty cool, versatile build.
Aeon has way better dispels, but that's nitpicking.

One question: why use puny kukuris, when you could choose handaxes? You're saving the axes for another char?

Just an example of a Martial Light weapon that Rogues usually don’t get. Are the Handaxes better? If so use those.

Since I’m getting precision immunity bypass figured I’d go for wide crit range. Are there two Handaxes with 18-20?

Yes. Grave Singer and Peacemaker.

 

[IllusiveBrian]

So apparently for the tailwind that adds bludgeoning damage Earth kinetic blast is not bludgeoning enough. Despite the fact that in the log it is written as "Bludgeoning, Piercing, Slashing". Version 1.4.4g - so maybe it has already been fixed.

OK, Owlcat.

Slashing Tailwind doesn't work on natural weapons either, even though they all have all 3 damage types. I'd guess the consistent rule is that the weapon has to have only one type of damage which matches the tailwind, but I'm sure there's some counterexample that works.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

To sum up, Underground Chemist/Grenadier Trickster gets:

(1) Best Dispel in game (Mythic Trickery 2)
(2) Infused Personal Spells/Potions (and Potions Enhanced/Extended*, also get Brew Potions from UC that Grenadier lost)
(3) Free Finesse/Dex-to-damage from UC, Martial Prof from Grenadier (perfect Kukri set-up)
(4) Double Bombs from Grenadier Alchemical Weapon, Sneaks (with Weakening/Debilitating) on Bombs from UC
(5) Melee turns on Feral Mutagen/Wings, Keen Kitsune (ideal stat bonuses) gives Pounce, good melee saves Bombs for when Touch is needed, Alchemical Weapon can also put Bombs on weapon attax

Dips are good!

* - turns on crappy found potions like Scroll Savant does with Scrolls

If you go Trickster UMD III then they get a full Wizard spellbook book, use any item, and infinite wands.