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At least the Kingmaker DLC companion(s) were two hot Tiefling bitches. Even then in the DLC description romance wasn't even mentioned. But now they're happily parading around the fact that you can fuck some fat viking dude.
What do you expect from a Cypress studio in 2023? The anti-alphabet-soup law in Russia was passed for a reason.
 

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Fucking romances. How many RPG's are there were romance(s) actually add anything of value? I can't even think of an exception.
 

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Fucking romances. How many RPG's are there were romance(s) actually add anything of value? I can't even think of an exception.
I like RPG romances. They add depth and alternative ways to develop a companion. And Owlcat Games are good at it.

On the other hand, I understand how it can irritate both American puritans and Russian lickspittles in the Duma. Who, basically, share the mindset.
 

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How many RPG's are there were romance(s) actually add anything of value? I can't even think of an exception.
Mask of the Betrayer and Planescape probably qualify.

In Wrath the romances end up being interesting plotwise (YMMV) because of how mythic paths work within the story. For each mythic path you have companions that support and others that serve as a foil to the main character. For an instance I'd say Wenduag is the main supporting character for the Demon path, is romanceable, and should have some interesting choice words in certain scenes because of it. The Lich uses the romanceable companion angle in a very amusing way too.
 
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No idea what all the hype about tavern defense is about. Maybe on Unfair I could see it being a problem, but it was a walk in the park on core with extra enemies and "advanced AI tricks" enabled. I didn't loot during combat though, so I'm sad to see I missed whatever things were carrying. Several of my characters were Level 6 though, as I was able to complete all the surrounding quests/areas. Much harder fights were the Shadow Demon and the alchemist with the mimics. At the time of the shadow demon, I didn't have any magic weapons, so I had to give it everything else I could muster. The succubus would have been bad since she charmed Woljk, but I had turned into to auto cast cantrips when the dominate was cast. Otherwise it was just a battle of attrition. Having a good time with this so far. It was worth the wait.

PS: Kingmaker had a surprisingly good soundtrack, and this one is nice too. Owlcat has a promising composer.
 

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Protection from Evil (including the Communal version) blocks all succubi charms in the Tirabade Residence.
Yes it does. The problem is that PfE Communal only lasts 1 minute, while casting the regular one on the entire party would cost 6 spell slots. And once the ally is already Dominated, it does nothing.
So unless you metagame / play again and know what to expect / scout a lot, chances are you won't have the protection you need when the fight starts.

Heck, actually you can forget scouting in this scenario, as AFAIR the succubuss hides in another room, behind two meatshields - which will certainly trigger the combat before the succubus makes an entry.
 

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With all due respect, I have to disagree.

First, Owlcat's drop breadcrumbs to the player. This is what the fighters upstairs have (can be observed by pressing 'Y'):
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And because there is no succubus upstairs, one has to wonder where she might be.

Second: I was there with the 5th level party. +2 deflection and +2 to saves for such a party is not a small thing IMHO. So I was casting Protection from Evil religiously, and not only during this encounter.
 

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6 level slots is nothing once you get Abundant though
Oh, so you rest all the time, then? In Act 1 in particular?
Also don't need Shield of Faith, Shield, Mage Armor, Divine Favor, Remove Fear, Bless, Unbreakable Heart and so on?
 

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6 level slots is nothing once you get Abundant though
Oh, so you rest all the time, then? In Act 1 in particular?
Also don't need Shield of Faith, Shield, Mage Armor, Divine Favor, Remove Fear, Bless, Unbreakable Heart and so on?
You should have two casters who have access to the spell, minimum. Shield is mostly irrelevant, casters are going to get hit regardless. Mage Armor is good.

You don't need to cast SoF AND PfE versus most enemies, early game.

Unbreakable Heart is a short term reactive spell, and is available to bards.

So no, I don't really struggle to cast this spell on everyone

Before Abundant, yeah it's an issue
 

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I would argue that there is no need to use Shield of Faith against evil opponents until the SoF caster reaches level 6. Protection from Evil (and from other alignments) gives the same deflection bonus to AC, but also +2 to saves and immunity from mind control.

When SoF starts giving +3 to AC - then the choice becomes harder. And, for sure, if the opponents are of mixed or neutral alignment then Shield of Faith is better.
 

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So, apparently Ulbrig (datamines):

Is someone from Old Sarkoris who got lost in the fey world and was transported forward in time. He also thinks he's on a crusade against fey.

Hopefully this fucker reacts hard to a Trickster playthrough given that it makes a mockery of everything he should hold dear. Hell, I could see him being even more pissed off at Trickster than Regill, who's remarkably civil about it.
 

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So, apparently Ulbrig (datamines):

Is someone from Old Sarkoris who got lost in the fey world and was transported forward in time. He also thinks he's on a crusade against fey.

Hopefully this fucker reacts hard to a Trickster playthrough given that it makes a mockery of everything he should hold dear. Hell, I could see him being even more pissed off at Trickster than Regill, who's remarkably civil about it.
It's somewhat odd to me to have that as the backstory for a shapeshifter since screwing around with your own form strikes me as inherently chaotic and possibly fey-like.

Not that big of a deal, it's just my $.02.
 

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So, apparently Ulbrig (datamines):

Is someone from Old Sarkoris who got lost in the fey world and was transported forward in time. He also thinks he's on a crusade against fey.

Hopefully this fucker reacts hard to a Trickster playthrough given that it makes a mockery of everything he should hold dear. Hell, I could see him being even more pissed off at Trickster than Regill, who's remarkably civil about it.
It's somewhat odd to me to have that as the backstory for a shapeshifter since screwing around with your own form strikes me as inherently chaotic and possibly fey-like.

Not that big of a deal, it's just my $.02.
There's a bit of an ongoing theme in the pathfinder setting where druidic magic and its ways are on the backfoot against arcane magic and urban society. Gods like Erastil helped the humans survive the dark days after Earthfall. In the times since then the humans managed to rediscover ancient arcane magic, at times blending it with powers of nature. Avistan in particular has the kellids continuously losing space to old empires like Taldor and Cheliax, or being changed irrevocably like in Numeria. Old Sarkoris was that final breath of the old world, a decentralized nation of clans lead by shamans and druids, one which deeply distrusted arcane magic. Not just because of the magic itself, but its users tend to be empire building usurpers.

Now, where the fey enter the picture is a bit ambivalent. On one hand, fey beings such as nymphs, satyrs and dryads often make common cause with druids in protecting forests. You see that in Taldor and Andoran. On the other, any point of contact between the fey world and the mortal plane is traumatic to both sides. Mortals have to fend against magic that they don't understand. For the fey it can also be disconcerting when the mortal world's laws impose themselves on their lives. Imagine that every sunday you enjoy walking down the lane to have a dinner with your grandkids 20 years in the future, but all of a sudden that makes no sense for some reason.

I'd imagine that as far as the Sarkorians were concerned fey and their magic is as suspicious to them as arcane magic. It is often times arcane in nature. But regardless,

fey can be amoral assholes and it seems they fucked with ulbrig for an undisclosed amount of time
 
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there is a succumbus upstairs, she is invisible at the start of the combat. she joins after you get rushed from the rapier and shield entralled crusaders.
You are mixing up the fight outside the house (which I called "upstairs") and inside.

That's the fight I was talking about. The one inside Tirabade Residence. My party was Level 5ish, but it was at the tail end of the adventuring day. I had very few spells remaining other than my last emergency Glitterdust and Grease, which was perfect. It wasn't a deadly fight, just one of attrition. The Alchemist was much more brutal, as I again was running on vapors and didn't have a scroll of Communal Protection Against Acid...just one against fire, lol.
 

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The amount of gay fawning over this guy's physique on Reddit is honestly fucking repellent
And here I was hoping the Pathfinder playerbase would finally get the positive male role model they desperately need.
They just did.

there is a succumbus upstairs, she is invisible at the start of the combat. she joins after you get rushed from the rapier and shield entralled crusaders.
You are mixing up the fight outside the house (which I called "upstairs") and inside.

That's the fight I was talking about. The one inside Tirabade Residence. My party was Level 5ish, but it was at the tail end of the adventuring day. I had very few spells remaining other than my last emergency Glitterdust and Grease, which was perfect. It wasn't a deadly fight, just one of attrition. The Alchemist was much more brutal, as I again was running on vapors and didn't have a scroll of Communal Protection Against Acid...just one against fire, lol.
Well, I spoiled it to myself so you can call it "having meta knowledge". I knew that those small locations are not time critical, so I did them while waiting for the tavern defence. And, as the result, I was resting more.
 

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