Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[ArchAngel]

Today it’s one tranny and some cringeworthy sex dialogue. Tomorrow it’s Pathfinder: Futa Fuck Squad

And that is bad why?

Also, I want romance with Nenio in both of her forms.

But you had romance with her. But she can only have romance with those that forget unimportant things as well as she does.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Guys, stop playing this crap.

*hic*

I'm tipsy by the way.

 

[ArchAngel]

Guys, stop playing this crap.

*hic*

I'm tipsy by the way.

No. You stop.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Guys, stop playing this crap.

*hic*

I'm tipsy by the way.

No. You stop.

I did. Stout and baltic porter is more than enough.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

The most obnoxious shit was the cleric companion who's attempts at romance were rapey asf.

I played a guy and he never hit on me. Just don't say anything he could misinterpret because that's just how gay men are.

It was even weirder because I played a tiny gnome so the cleric mofo is like 5 times the size. I don't think my tiny gnome butthole can survive this encounter.

 

[Turn_BASED]

The most obnoxious shit was the cleric companion who's attempts at romance were rapey asf.

I played a guy and he never hit on me. Just don't say anything he could misinterpret because that's just how gay men are.

It was even weirder because I played a tiny gnome so the cleric mofo is like 5 times the size. I don't think my tiny gnome butthole can survive this encounter.

Is his name Fleshlight?

 

[skaraher]

Lots of use of modern slang during Romance like "date", "girlfriend" etc. Zoomers and queer-ally are clearly the target audience. Redditer and the orphaned BSN/Tumblr crowd.

 

[Roguey]

Lots of use of modern slang during Romance like "date", "girlfriend" etc. Zoomers and queer-ally are clearly the target audience. Redditer and the orphaned BSN/Tumblr crowd.

Always has been with Pathfinder. Plenty of references to these terms in official Pathfinder material. There were never any rules against the use of modern slang like those dusty old D&D settings.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Also, it is not stated how "modern" or "archaic" Golarion is. They have a spaceship; who knows what is there besides lazzzorzz.

 

[Camel]

Lots of use of modern slang during Romance like "date", "girlfriend" etc. Zoomers and queer-ally are clearly the target audience. Redditer and the orphaned BSN/Tumblr crowd.

Always has been with Pathfinder. Plenty of references to these terms in official Pathfinder material. There were never any rules against the use of modern slang like those dusty old D&D settings.

Fuck Pathfinder then.

 

[Haplo]

I'm nearing late leveling and can count on one hand how many feats I have left for most characters. Is Wrath still all about putting shatter defenses on your melee and archer characters? All the guides for Kingmaker acted as if it was essential, but I see fewer builds doing it in Wrath.

I largely stopped picking Shatter Defenses on my characters. Partially because I find it unreliable on some of the tougher enemies (who come prebuffed with Greater Heroism, some are also Mind Immune), partially because TTT mod makes it work in accordance with the description (so only works AFTER the first hit), partially because I want some new feats from TTT (like Trick Riding & Mounted Skirmisher). I do sometimes use TTT Mythic Shatter Defenses feat on some characters (persistant Shatter effect on affected enemy).

Currently I'm finding Greater Invisibility (24hr late game) with Mind Blank a more reliable and cheaper solution to catch many enemies flat-footed.

I think TTT just nerfed your 24hr shenanigans (to your own benefit).

What do you mean?

 

[Desiderius]

I'm nearing late leveling and can count on one hand how many feats I have left for most characters. Is Wrath still all about putting shatter defenses on your melee and archer characters? All the guides for Kingmaker acted as if it was essential, but I see fewer builds doing it in Wrath.

I largely stopped picking Shatter Defenses on my characters. Partially because I find it unreliable on some of the tougher enemies (who come prebuffed with Greater Heroism, some are also Mind Immune), partially because TTT mod makes it work in accordance with the description (so only works AFTER the first hit), partially because I want some new feats from TTT (like Trick Riding & Mounted Skirmisher). I do sometimes use TTT Mythic Shatter Defenses feat on some characters (persistant Shatter effect on affected enemy).

Currently I'm finding Greater Invisibility (24hr late game) with Mind Blank a more reliable and cheaper solution to catch many enemies flat-footed.

I think TTT just nerfed your 24hr shenanigans (to your own benefit).

What do you mean?

Enduring, Greater now requires 8 minutes instead of 5.

By the time it can be activated it's largely unnecessary and it's costing you two Mythics. TTT/Dark Codex has some nice ones, but Favorite Meta is always good.

 

[Desiderius]

formerly straights

Understand that "formerly gay" is crimethink to get an idea of the game being played here. I did ten years of semi-pro theater (the gap in my game knowledge not coincidentally) so I know how the gheys work and have worked fine with them.

What could have been an interesting companion quest with a lot of meaningful C&C got crowded out by the obligatory "I want buttsecks" and "unsuspecting straight guy gets inducted into the cult" options.

 

[Incendax]

It isn't. Big Irabeth hug is very in the face of the player. It's like Greybor busting out a Marlboro™ and taking a nice long drag when you first meet hihim.

I just want Irabeth's arms to fit around the person she is hugging. Right now she grabs 80% empty space.

 

[LannTheStupid]

It isn't. Big Irabeth hug is very in the face of the player. It's like Greybor busting out a Marlboro™ and taking a nice long drag when you first meet hihim.

I just want Irabeth's arms to fit around the person she is hugging. Right now she grabs 80% empty space.

We do not have enough purchase power to nudge Owlcat to switch to the Unreal 5 engine.

 

[Roguey]

What could have been an interesting companion quest with a lot of meaningful C&C got crowded out by the obligatory "I want buttsecks" and "unsuspecting straight guy gets inducted into the cult" options.

Sosiel is the odd one out among the companions: he's the only person in the party with no tragic backstory or dark secrets. His closet is surprisingly devoid of skeletons. He's just a nice, honest guy next door, eager to support you, and open about his own vulnerability. Writing his romance felt like a healing vacation after the horrors of the Swarm mythic path.

Even without a romance, he was always going to be this way. They wanted a token bland.

 

[santino27]

Their character writers suck.

 

[Dr1f7]

just started this game and MAN the writing is atrocious and there's so much of it I don't think I'll be able to get through this one (I'm like 3 hours in)
I wish the game was literally just 'romp through cool dungeons for 20 hours' but there's a whole lot of... walking around and talking to people putting me to sleep

sucks because I'm past the point where I could refund the game, nice bait and switch making the opening sequence exactly enough time to push past the refund timer then making the rest of the game a total snoozefest

 

[Roguey]

I wish the game was literally just 'romp through cool dungeons for 20 hours' but there's a whole lot of... walking around and talking to people putting me to sleep

This is what the Treasure of the Midnight Isles DLC is for. It can work as a stand-alone campaign.

 

[Delterius]

Even without a romance, he was always going to be this way. They wanted a token bland.

a few pages ago sosiel looked at a gnome and fell in love with them, calling them the epitome of beauty, making portraits of them, and having the visage of a goddamn gnome be the one thing that keeps them going in the darkness of the abyss and you think thats bland

they can't all be daeran, the first npc to romance the player and not the other way around, but come on. sosiel is clearly insane

In all seriousness I thought Sosiel offered a good contrast with the rest of the party. As far as romance goes he's the one monogamous guy in a setting of sex-haver demigod fantasies. Beyond that he's just a lad with anger issues who cares about family. He's a way better 'Eder' than Lann turned out to be.

 

[Desiderius]

What could have been an interesting companion quest with a lot of meaningful C&C got crowded out by the obligatory "I want buttsecks" and "unsuspecting straight guy gets inducted into the cult" options.

Sosiel is the odd one out among the companions: he's the only person in the party with no tragic backstory or dark secrets. His closet is surprisingly devoid of skeletons. He's just a nice, honest guy next door, eager to support you, and open about his own vulnerability. Writing his romance felt like a healing vacation after the horrors of the Swarm mythic path.

Even without a romance, he was always going to be this way. They wanted a token bland.

Which is exactly the problem, though it isn't even true.

He's supposed to have an angry Cleric of Shelyn conflict (which would be an interesting riff on Val's character arc - which was also truncated for SocJus irreasons) but it doesn't really get developed because it gets crowded out by the pole smoking.

 

[Desiderius]

Even without a romance, he was always going to be this way. They wanted a token bland.

a few pages ago sosiel looked at a gnome and fell in love with them, calling them the epitome of beauty, making portraits of them, and having the visage of a goddamn gnome be the one thing that keeps them going in the darkness of the abyss and you think thats bland

they can't all be daeran, the first npc to romance the player and not the other way around, but come on. sosiel is clearly insane

In all seriousness I thought Sosiel offered a good contrast with the rest of the party. As far as romance goes he's the one monogamous guy in a setting of sex-haver demigod fantasies. Beyond that he's just a lad with anger issues who cares about family. He's a way better 'Eder' than Lann turned out to be.

Unlike Eder Lann's quest at least has a resolution, or two eventually. Nice riff on dude with cosmopolitan roots trying to find his place in insular small townish setting. Can go either way depending on who you choose to side with early.

Monogamous gheys is fake news.

 

[Delterius]

but it doesn't really get developed because it gets crowded out by the pole smoking.

Eh no after his first quest Sosiel's arc revolves around finding his brother. His anger issues take a backseat to a family driven sub-arc. It would be a bit silly if the game asked the question 'does Shelyn approve of me being angry that my brother was enslaved and brutalized by demons for years'.

I think if I were to re-write Sosiel's arc I'd introduce Trevor earlier - him being rescued from demons after or maybe during Drezen - and make Sosiel about him caring for a wrecked, traumatized Trevor. It would be a parallel to Shelyn and Zon-Kuthon. So the anger issues and the gambling issues would be about Sosiel getting his shit together to look after his older brother. He either gives up his vices or deals with them in a more healthy way.

 

[Desiderius]

but it doesn't really get developed because it gets crowded out by the pole smoking.

Eh no after his first quest Sosiel's arc revolves around finding his brother. His anger issues take a backseat to a family driven sub-arc. It would be a bit silly if the game asked the question 'does Shelyn approve of me being angry that my brother was enslaved and brutalized by demons for years'.

I think if I were to re-write Sosiel's arc I'd introduce Trevor earlier - him being rescued from demons after or maybe during Drezen - and make Sosiel about him caring for a wrecked, traumatized Trevor. It would be a parallel to Shelyn and Zon-Kuthon. So the anger issues and the gambling issues would be about Sosiel getting his shit together to look after his older brother. He either gives up his vices or deals with them in a more healthy way.

Uh, his brother chose his own path, one imagines in part to distinguish himself from his brother’s.

And anger is an emotion. What one does with one’s emotions is the question, a question to which one might think Shelyn could offer some unique answers.

Which after all is the purpose of artistic endeavor in the first place.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Valerie a follower of Zon-Kuthon mod when?