She’s ok ranged but wastes a lot of what makes her good there. I did that to facilitate the meta Snowball build with Winter Witch, which is kind of narrow (but good against Devarra). DEX-based wants to take advantage of the higher AC in melee.It’s a STR-based archetype but that doesn’t really bite her until later.Spirit hunters have average BAB and spirit enchantment isn't enough to make up for that.
The Mythic Carnivorous Crystal is one ridiculous troll of an optional fight. Opens with a large aoe that will instakill anyone who fails the save and has over 1000 HP, but a single casting of wracking ray followed by one polar ray will take it out in one round.
Weapon enchanting + Bane Weapon + Hampering Hex (Battle Spirit exclusive to lower foe AC by 4 for team even on made save with no immunity) makes her a force to be reckoned with at lvl 8. Just make sure to use Reduce Person and Fencing Grace and she’s gold at lvl 8 when she gets Bane + second attack + Hex kicks up from 2 to 4. She gets Ghost Touch at lvl 1.
Then at lvl 9 Divine Power hits +3/+3. She gets it at lvl 7 for extra attack and +2/+2.
Basically people don’t know how to use one minute buffs because they’re resting like P:K. Spiking is a big part of Wrath success and she spikes hard.
I definately prefer her as ranged Vital Striker nowadays. Goes well with a Rowdy dip - and even better if you respec her to a Shadow Shaman. Later Loremaster will let her pick GVS.
Still has Move action to Chant.
Btw., Vek added Split Hex and Bewitching Reflex in TTT. Yay, witches are back on the menu!
Vital Strike is a really bad fit for DEX-based. Either you’re going small with Reduce Person (which is all upside DEX-based) or big with VS, not both. Her base class doesn’t have the Feats for it either, and VS is bad fit for ranged since ranged advantage is getting full attacks due to not needing to move.
When I finally get around to next playthrough I’ll be respeccing her to STR-based to take advantage of archetype. The other things you’re doing are either lateral moves (Shadow Shaman) or undermining the strength of her archetype (which scales by class level three ways) with the splashes.
Sure but many fights are not controlled by you and for the rest you need to move slowly and carefully so you do not start the fight before you cast it. I rather just run through maps and into range of enemy so turn starts and then cast it as free action on turn 1Precast Divine Favor/Power people. A minute is ten rounds. It’s enough.Also she has good crit and activates Outflank often. When you give her that medium armor that gives +4 damage when using outflank she does even better. I usually get Extend spell with her and put Divine Power in lvl 5 slots as well and then use sorcerous reflex to have that cast as swift at start of each battle.It’s a STR-based archetype but that doesn’t really bite her until later.Spirit hunters have average BAB and spirit enchantment isn't enough to make up for that.
The Mythic Carnivorous Crystal is one ridiculous troll of an optional fight. Opens with a large aoe that will instakill anyone who fails the save and has over 1000 HP, but a single casting of wracking ray followed by one polar ray will take it out in one round.
Weapon enchanting + Bane Weapon + Hampering Hex (Battle Spirit exclusive to lower foe AC by 4 for team even on made save with no immunity) makes her a force to be reckoned with at lvl 8. Just make sure to use Reduce Person and Fencing Grace and she’s gold at lvl 8 when she gets Bane + second attack + Hex kicks up from 2 to 4. She gets Ghost Touch at lvl 1.
Then at lvl 9 Divine Power hits +3/+3. She gets it at lvl 7 for extra attack and +2/+2.
Basically people don’t know how to use one minute buffs because they’re resting like P:K. Spiking is a big part of Wrath success and she spikes hard.
And she can grab Animal Spirit and get animal companion at lvl 16 which lets her move and do full attack.
I played melee mad dog barbarian with Angel and that was still my easiest playthrough. And trip is overrated as many enemies cannot be tripped and really big ones and with many legs are very resistant. Vs those enemies you want it the most you will not be able to do it. And vs random idiots you do not need it.
Also it is not only about AB, Angel gives you immunity to basically everything that will stop you from attacking and it gives good damage bonuses. Sure maybe Aeon has more pure AB but that means little unless maybe for Unfair but this game was not designed around Unfair and original question was not about Unfair. On Core or Hard you can be Angel, go full Power Attack and Mythic Power Attack and with Angel bonuses and immunities you will do best as Martial.
Free? Sorc Reflex is Swift and costs a Mythic. If you want to get it free you can use BubbleBuff in combat instacast but that’s kind of cheating.Sure but many fights are not controlled by you and for the rest you need to move slowly and carefully so you do not start the fight before you cast it. I rather just run through maps and into range of enemy so turn starts and then cast it as free action on turn 1Precast Divine Favor/Power people. A minute is ten rounds. It’s enough.Also she has good crit and activates Outflank often. When you give her that medium armor that gives +4 damage when using outflank she does even better. I usually get Extend spell with her and put Divine Power in lvl 5 slots as well and then use sorcerous reflex to have that cast as swift at start of each battle.It’s a STR-based archetype but that doesn’t really bite her until later.Spirit hunters have average BAB and spirit enchantment isn't enough to make up for that.
The Mythic Carnivorous Crystal is one ridiculous troll of an optional fight. Opens with a large aoe that will instakill anyone who fails the save and has over 1000 HP, but a single casting of wracking ray followed by one polar ray will take it out in one round.
Weapon enchanting + Bane Weapon + Hampering Hex (Battle Spirit exclusive to lower foe AC by 4 for team even on made save with no immunity) makes her a force to be reckoned with at lvl 8. Just make sure to use Reduce Person and Fencing Grace and she’s gold at lvl 8 when she gets Bane + second attack + Hex kicks up from 2 to 4. She gets Ghost Touch at lvl 1.
Then at lvl 9 Divine Power hits +3/+3. She gets it at lvl 7 for extra attack and +2/+2.
Basically people don’t know how to use one minute buffs because they’re resting like P:K. Spiking is a big part of Wrath success and she spikes hard.
And she can grab Animal Spirit and get animal companion at lvl 16 which lets her move and do full attack.
Disease immunity is very nice and not all that common. AoE long-lasting frees up a lot of slots/buffs and eventually Mass Aegis (?) gives all buffs with single-click. Sword of the Heavens + Divine Power is no joke either.
But companion can Grapple.
I always take with her Sorc reflex as Mythic 2 ability, there is not many things at that level that are more usefulFree? Sorc Reflex is Swift and costs a Mythic. If you want to get it free you can use BubbleBuff in combat instacast but that’s kind of cheating.Sure but many fights are not controlled by you and for the rest you need to move slowly and carefully so you do not start the fight before you cast it. I rather just run through maps and into range of enemy so turn starts and then cast it as free action on turn 1Precast Divine Favor/Power people. A minute is ten rounds. It’s enough.Also she has good crit and activates Outflank often. When you give her that medium armor that gives +4 damage when using outflank she does even better. I usually get Extend spell with her and put Divine Power in lvl 5 slots as well and then use sorcerous reflex to have that cast as swift at start of each battle.It’s a STR-based archetype but that doesn’t really bite her until later.Spirit hunters have average BAB and spirit enchantment isn't enough to make up for that.
The Mythic Carnivorous Crystal is one ridiculous troll of an optional fight. Opens with a large aoe that will instakill anyone who fails the save and has over 1000 HP, but a single casting of wracking ray followed by one polar ray will take it out in one round.
Weapon enchanting + Bane Weapon + Hampering Hex (Battle Spirit exclusive to lower foe AC by 4 for team even on made save with no immunity) makes her a force to be reckoned with at lvl 8. Just make sure to use Reduce Person and Fencing Grace and she’s gold at lvl 8 when she gets Bane + second attack + Hex kicks up from 2 to 4. She gets Ghost Touch at lvl 1.
Then at lvl 9 Divine Power hits +3/+3. She gets it at lvl 7 for extra attack and +2/+2.
Basically people don’t know how to use one minute buffs because they’re resting like P:K. Spiking is a big part of Wrath success and she spikes hard.
And she can grab Animal Spirit and get animal companion at lvl 16 which lets her move and do full attack.
Doing all your Short buffs precombat with BubbleBuff is painless or unmodded you can just save it for the fights where you need to spike. Burning in-combat actions on pre-combat buffs is subpar play.
Does it make sense to use both empowered and maximized, though? Don't they override each other?
I did same thing with Amiri and Freebooter’s Bane. Hex + Move in one turn. Full attack the next. In Amiri case Bane was Move Action so more flexible. Hexes are medium range (most touch spells are close) so easier to do this than it would be on spells.She’s ok ranged but wastes a lot of what makes her good there. I did that to facilitate the meta Snowball build with Winter Witch, which is kind of narrow (but good against Devarra). DEX-based wants to take advantage of the higher AC in melee.It’s a STR-based archetype but that doesn’t really bite her until later.Spirit hunters have average BAB and spirit enchantment isn't enough to make up for that.
The Mythic Carnivorous Crystal is one ridiculous troll of an optional fight. Opens with a large aoe that will instakill anyone who fails the save and has over 1000 HP, but a single casting of wracking ray followed by one polar ray will take it out in one round.
Weapon enchanting + Bane Weapon + Hampering Hex (Battle Spirit exclusive to lower foe AC by 4 for team even on made save with no immunity) makes her a force to be reckoned with at lvl 8. Just make sure to use Reduce Person and Fencing Grace and she’s gold at lvl 8 when she gets Bane + second attack + Hex kicks up from 2 to 4. She gets Ghost Touch at lvl 1.
Then at lvl 9 Divine Power hits +3/+3. She gets it at lvl 7 for extra attack and +2/+2.
Basically people don’t know how to use one minute buffs because they’re resting like P:K. Spiking is a big part of Wrath success and she spikes hard.
I definately prefer her as ranged Vital Striker nowadays. Goes well with a Rowdy dip - and even better if you respec her to a Shadow Shaman. Later Loremaster will let her pick GVS.
Still has Move action to Chant.
Btw., Vek added Split Hex and Bewitching Reflex in TTT. Yay, witches are back on the menu!
Vital Strike is a really bad fit for DEX-based. Either you’re going small with Reduce Person (which is all upside DEX-based) or big with VS, not both. Her base class doesn’t have the Feats for it either, and VS is bad fit for ranged since ranged advantage is getting full attacks due to not needing to move.
When I finally get around to next playthrough I’ll be respeccing her to STR-based to take advantage of archetype. The other things you’re doing are either lateral moves (Shadow Shaman) or undermining the strength of her archetype (which scales by class level three ways) with the splashes.
Melee doesn't mix with Hexes. You do one or the other. You need to use Move actions to engage or fullattack. If you want her to be an offtank and mostly ignore a major class feature like Hexes, that's fine, but IMO doesn't play to her strenghts.
Ranged VS + Chant to keep up Protective Luck on tank or/and Evil Eye/Hampering Hex on major enemy do work together.
Base Vital Strike might not be great with Reduce - and cost feats. But that's where a Rowdy comes into play. You get it for free and it scales basing on Sneak Attack damage (Shadow Shamans have Sneak progression). Later Mythic VS DOES multiply stat and other fixed modifiers (like enchantment, Divine Power and so on). And Cleaving Shots fire additional Vital Strikes :D ....eventually Loremaster adds GVS and you're golden.
Max is effectively double while Empowered is x1.5 which is why it costs more. I think they’re not supposed to stack? but usually have in vanilla P:K/Wrath.
QStaff Master Angel got there on Core/Hard. That’s CMB + Flurried Full Attax.
I *think* they combine, but a good rule of thumb when reading my posts is to remember I'm an idiot.
Of course they should stack. No reason not to.
I think one of the mods cancels the stacking. They should both only effects die rolls so @LannTheStupid’s calculations wouldn’t apply and Max would double expected value while Empower would increase it 1.5.
There are always useful Mythics to take, even on Vanilla. Play the game - it’s fun. Cam doesn’t have many Swifts in Vanilla (modded has Swift Hex Mythic) so Sorc Reflex could be decent there, though Shaman doesn’t get Prayer.I always take with her Sorc reflex as Mythic 2 ability, there is not many things at that level that are more usefulFree? Sorc Reflex is Swift and costs a Mythic. If you want to get it free you can use BubbleBuff in combat instacast but that’s kind of cheating.Sure but many fights are not controlled by you and for the rest you need to move slowly and carefully so you do not start the fight before you cast it. I rather just run through maps and into range of enemy so turn starts and then cast it as free action on turn 1Precast Divine Favor/Power people. A minute is ten rounds. It’s enough.Also she has good crit and activates Outflank often. When you give her that medium armor that gives +4 damage when using outflank she does even better. I usually get Extend spell with her and put Divine Power in lvl 5 slots as well and then use sorcerous reflex to have that cast as swift at start of each battle.It’s a STR-based archetype but that doesn’t really bite her until later.Spirit hunters have average BAB and spirit enchantment isn't enough to make up for that.
The Mythic Carnivorous Crystal is one ridiculous troll of an optional fight. Opens with a large aoe that will instakill anyone who fails the save and has over 1000 HP, but a single casting of wracking ray followed by one polar ray will take it out in one round.
Weapon enchanting + Bane Weapon + Hampering Hex (Battle Spirit exclusive to lower foe AC by 4 for team even on made save with no immunity) makes her a force to be reckoned with at lvl 8. Just make sure to use Reduce Person and Fencing Grace and she’s gold at lvl 8 when she gets Bane + second attack + Hex kicks up from 2 to 4. She gets Ghost Touch at lvl 1.
Then at lvl 9 Divine Power hits +3/+3. She gets it at lvl 7 for extra attack and +2/+2.
Basically people don’t know how to use one minute buffs because they’re resting like P:K. Spiking is a big part of Wrath success and she spikes hard.
And she can grab Animal Spirit and get animal companion at lvl 16 which lets her move and do full attack.
Doing all your Short buffs precombat with BubbleBuff is painless or unmodded you can just save it for the fights where you need to spike. Burning in-combat actions on pre-combat buffs is subpar play.
... As well as Enervations and similar drain/stat damage debuffs.
