Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Roguey]

They are moving to EA and Ubisoft territory with these new bugs.

Nothing has changed since Kingmaker patches. You are out of touch, that's all.

Ideally, an Owlcat player waits for the next minor version change before updating. An impatient Owlcat player waits for a week after announced update.

Those who autoupdate games from Owlcat should and will suffer.

I've been sticking to 2.0.6l for my entire playthrough and have only experienced a few minor issues.

 

[Desiderius]

Got a run going with a Beast Tamer Bard MC and it's really an interesting archetype:



The good:

(1) Like Inquisitor archetype Monster Tactician you get a ton of free casts of minute-per-level Summons that scale by fast progression instead of your usual hybrid slow. Unlike Monster Tactician you get the implemented Nature's Ally Summons instead of the unimplemented Summon Monster ones. Even the Mite you start with gets DR 2/Cold Iron. Soon you get Leopards, Boars, Manticores, and Smilos. Cam also gets Nature's Ally Summons and wants the Conj Focus for her Stinking Cloud.

(2) Augment Summoning as free Feat at lvl 2 (!). This is pretty big for Bard which really doesn't want the usual Conjuration Focus pre-req. Equivalent of two free feats in any case. On the other hand it's hard to tell if it's even working and I suspect it might not be. Mite is still only getting +1 STR bonus with it. Also takes care of prereq for Superior Summoning.

(3) Inspire Song buffs you, your Pet, and Summons and eventually gives them Magic Claw (later Greater) and the Monk-style damage type progression to bypass DR. This is pretty important since Summons can't wear equipment (Amulet of Mighty Fists) and it's impractical to buff them individually.

Add all that together and it's a potent package. Angel would probably be ideal to buff them further with team Sword and fighting with MC using Angel buffs, but I'm due for Azata and that gives the Summons (and Aivu!) TW Feats (and lets MC cast instead). Once MC can ride Aivu I'll pick up Battle Meditation since I can re-up the Morale bonuses with it after the initial Summons with Good Hope have died, and only need Standard Action.

Downsides:

(1) Inspire Ferocity doesn't buff rest of team (like Inspire Courage). Minor since you still have Inspire Greatness/Heroics if you want it and you've still got Fascinate.

(2) Lose Dirge. Not something I use much now that Songs don't stack. Can just Dazzling and eventually use Frightful Presence.



Off to a good start as first Summon gets in the killing blow. Seven (!) free casts of min/lvl Summon at lvl one is a big help in those early lvls. Turns on Flanking for Seelah and Cam.

I'm playing with default experience sharing and no reloads so Core is fine for Maze. Will probably kick it up to Hard at lvl 7 (when Good Hope shows up) and stay there.

 

[Average Manatee]

They are moving to EA and Ubisoft territory with these new bugs.

Nothing has changed since Kingmaker patches. You are out of touch, that's all.

Ideally, an Owlcat player waits for the next minor version change before updating. An impatient Owlcat player waits for a week after announced update.

Those who autoupdate games from Owlcat should and will suffer.

I've been sticking to 2.0.6l for my entire playthrough and have only experienced a few minor issues.

You're not allowed in this thread unless you're enjoying the full Owlcat experience of rolling the dice on losing 50 hours of progress every other week.

 

[LannTheStupid]

You're not allowed in this thread unless you're enjoying the full Owlcat experience of rolling the dice on losing 50 hours of progress every other week.

Good point.

I may try it as a challenge Last Azlanti run. Restart after every patch sounds fun!

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

I've been using Seelah to Cleave with a Leading Strike mythic ability, and I've liked the results...but I think I can do it better. I'm thinking Wide Sweep + full attacks will make sure that Leading Strike is almost always active for allies.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

(2) Augment Summoning as free Feat at lvl 2 (!). This is pretty big for Bard which really doesn't want the usual Conjuration Focus pre-req. Equivalent of two free feats in any case. On the other hand it's hard to tell if it's even working and I suspect it might not be.

 

[Desiderius]

(2) Augment Summoning as free Feat at lvl 2 (!). This is pretty big for Bard which really doesn't want the usual Conjuration Focus pre-req. Equivalent of two free feats in any case. On the other hand it's hard to tell if it's even working and I suspect it might not be.

This is the kind of basic shit that you wonder WTF is going on. At least with Wiz7 the system was so opaque you couldn’t tell how badly you were being hosed.

 

[Lambach]

a sword coast stratagems type of mod will upheave the game to the pantheon of crpgs, along baldurs gate 2.

Not sure I want a smarter Baphomet who, after auto-dispelling all of the Party's buffs, immediately hits you with some 60d6 AoE nuke instead of wasting a turn on Unholy Blight. Or a Playful Darkness that ignores Summons and goes straight for the PC.

In many cases, the enemy stat bloat is so insane that your only saving grace is that their AI is dumb.

 

[Desiderius]

I mean if you're aware that your one basic summon-buffing Feat isn't working you fix it right? And how could you possibly not be aware that your *one basic summon-buffing Feat* isn't working when you've got several archetypes and buildarounds that focus on Summoning?

Srsly just don't get this kind of thing.

Anyway another playthrough goes on ice. The long-awaited Nature's Agony fix does Necro this one tho:



The Divine Hunter (Pal) splash isn't great for a Bard/Caster but it's the only way to make the Staff Sling really work since it gives Precise Shot and Martial Prof (which allows Staff Sling for Halfling) at lvl one, freeing up subsequent Feats for Spell Pen + Greater Spell Pen and Evo Focus and Focus Greater. Late game can add the Second Pal level for Divine Grace.

Game has some good Slings but Nature's Agony is the one you want since it buffs Sonic DC. You can buy Agony at beginning of Ch 3. Relic to further buff Sonic DC available mid Ch3 also turns on damage for first lvl Ear-Piercing Scream which works well with a Max/Bolster/Empower Rod to add some damage to the Daze. Sonic Burst gets you AoE Stun and of course the Shouts (especially Ki Shout) are great. Supplement with Favorable Magic from Azata and eventually the Feat-copying Mythic for late Enchantments.

Can get Dazzling via Bard Talent at level three to be the group Intimidator (Dirge can even intimidate Undead) until Azata and Agony really turns on spells. Can do decent damage with Sling on regular fights to save casts after Dazzling.

(I'll probably just play LotRO with my boys since they're getting into that instead tho).

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Holy fuck. Blightmaw was tough. I had to give it absolutely everything I had aside from resting and tailoring to it. Every entangling and difficult terrain spell I had, plus grease and anything else. My MC and Daeran just kept spamming summoning scrolls to keep it diverted. A couple of dispels and evil eye helped, but sheesh. I must have reloaded for 30 minutes. Worth it. Easily the hardest battle of the game thus far. More than Hosilla or the early Nabassu.

 

[Desiderius]

It helps to come back after getting Mythic 3 because then it also gets the -4 Sword of Valor malus.

 

[Haplo]

I've been using Seelah to Cleave with a Leading Strike mythic ability, and I've liked the results...but I think I can do it better. I'm thinking Wide Sweep + full attacks will make sure that Leading Strike is almost always active for allies.

Will this work, though? Particularly now, with the nerfed Wide Sweep? I'm not convinced it's procs count as attacks.

What should work, is Great Cleave.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Haplo leading Strike does work with great cleave. It really helps with the piddly ranged attack damage of my back line (Ember and Daeran). My original intent was to have two Leading Strike Cleavers, but if a char has leading strike, they cannot proc it. I'm not sure if that is a TTT issue or bug. I will try out Wide Sweep after I get out the of the dungeon. I called it a night after Blightmaw.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Hey Owlcat_Eyler if you're still in contact with the crew left to work on WotR, tell 'em to hurry up an release the Mythic and Legend key art as proper player portraits already.

For those of us who want to just want to play as humble heroes of the land.

None of my heroes wears stupid iron plates.

Compared to you those iron plates are goddamn rocket scientists.

 

[boot]

Think I'm gonna try this with an all mercenary party, cut out a lot of shit and emphasize the best part of the game (buildporn)

 

[volklore]

Did owlcat actually nerf the scroll vendor in act1? or is that another TTT thing?

My plans are in shambles

 

[LannTheStupid]

Think I'm gonna try this with an all mercenary party, cut out a lot of shit and emphasize the best part of the game (buildporn)

Play the DLC, then. "The Treasure of the Midnight Isles". Only builds and almost no story.

Did owlcat actually nerf the scroll vendor in act1?

The scroll vendor Vissaliy Rathimus in Defender's Heart sells only divine scrolls.

 

[Desiderius]

Hey Owlcat_Eyler if you're still in contact with the crew left to work on WotR, tell 'em to hurry up an release the Mythic and Legend key art as proper player portraits already.

For those of us who want to just want to play as humble heroes of the land.

Hm... I'm not sure that this will happen any time soon because of the team workload, but I'll tell them

Owlcat_Eyler can you get Augment Summoning fixed?

 

[ArchAngel]

I noticed that in last big patch they finally fixed opening inventory in during TB combat should now open inventory of right person. I think I reported that back when Midnight Isles DLC arrived and I came back to play this game again. And then I reported it again 2 months later because I was frustrated it was still not fixed.. nice to see they need 6+ months to fix basic (but really irritating) UI bugs. Or maybe only people on 'Dex play in TB mode..

 

[Rean]

I'll never get over how these retards can't even get their own prewritten fiction right.

 

[ArchAngel]

I'll never get over how these retards can't even get their own prewritten fiction right.

Well she is half human so technically it is right.

 

[LannTheStupid]

I'll never get over how these retards can't even get their own prewritten fiction right.

That's why Owlcat mostly ignore the Codex. Maybe not trends, but individual messages for sure.

 

[Rean]

That's why Owlcat mostly ignore the Codex. Maybe not trends, but individual messages for sure.

I know bro, you're feeling the pain. Your heart aches. You've been sucking their dick here since Kingmaker to get them to acknowledge your efforts, but they... just... won't.


Maybe after a few more Desiderius posts.

 

[boot]

this game is trash so far but I made it to the tavern where you can recruit mercenaries, they are very costly so it looks like I will have to suffer more of pozfinders companions for some time as I phase them out and try and get a cool icewind dale kind of experience out of the game.

Though I'm not sure this game is worth it. The general quality of everything to this point sucks. Everything about it feels like shit and I wonder if it's just me. I think Owlcat panders to gay people with shit taste. I want to kill every character I meet. The world is boring and gay. The combat is... I'm willing to give it time but it hasn't impressed me. Dungeon I explored was lame and not fun.

Can buildporn alone really carry an entire game, especially one that's supposed to be as massive as this?

 

[Desiderius]

It's not Icewind Dale. Mercs suck ass.

Get over it. Turn down the volume on the companions and clickthrough the dialogue and its fine.