Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[alcoholyte]

What's so hard in Act IV? I went through most of it without having to fight. Lots of good Intimidation rolls I suppose.

Nothing really? Wrath is a fairly smooth downward difficulty curve IMO, by Act 3 the only fights that are hard are ones that you can just ignore until you're much stronger, ditto with Act 4.

Isn't devouring darkness (or w/e its called, the superboss in the underground temple with the silly AC) right at the end of act 3? Can you just leave it there and come back in act 5 and fight it then? I thought it disappeared when you left for Alushynirra

I was playing a solo arcane enforcer/other busted stuff (mostly wizard tho) and all challenge disappeared as soon as I got lich and that blood spell, but i remember that fight being a stand out

 

[mediocrepoet]

Does anyone know when more of the second season pass will be released?

I was looking for that info as well but it doesn't seem to be anywhere. Maybe it's just the new version of the Kickstarter scam. Sell season pass but only release part of the DLC so people will buy it and then release the rest in like 10 years when no one cares anymore. Or pretend you'll release it for 10 years until no one cares anymore.

 

[Axel_am]

What's so hard in Act IV? I went through most of it without having to fight. Lots of good Intimidation rolls I suppose.

Nothing really? Wrath is a fairly smooth downward difficulty curve IMO, by Act 3 the only fights that are hard are ones that you can just ignore until you're much stronger, ditto with Act 4.

Isn't devouring darkness (or w/e its called, the superboss in the underground temple with the silly AC) right at the end of act 3? Can you just leave it there and come back in act 5 and fight it then? I thought it disappeared when you left for Alushynirra

I was playing a solo arcane enforcer/other busted staff and all challenge disappeared as soon as I got lich and that blood spell, but i remember that fight being

Playful Darkness. It's an optional mini boss. Not sure if you can go back and kill it after Alushinyrra. But that's definitely a fight you can skip.

 

[Average Manatee]

Never tried it but Google results seem to suggest you can go back to kill playful darkness in Act 4. Not sure if that includes when returning to Drezen.

 

[Desiderius]

Can definitely go back in Act 4 (there’s a quest that sends you there). Can’t remember if it’s still available in Act 5 (through Barracks maybe?).

I usually get it around time I do Humble Abode. There’s a stat book there so don’t want to skip entirely. Some of the mobs do disappear once you leave the first time, but not PD.

 

[alcoholyte]

What's so hard in Act IV? I went through most of it without having to fight. Lots of good Intimidation rolls I suppose.

Nothing really? Wrath is a fairly smooth downward difficulty curve IMO, by Act 3 the only fights that are hard are ones that you can just ignore until you're much stronger, ditto with Act 4.

Isn't devouring darkness (or w/e its called, the superboss in the underground temple with the silly AC) right at the end of act 3? Can you just leave it there and come back in act 5 and fight it then? I thought it disappeared when you left for Alushynirra

I was playing a solo arcane enforcer/other busted staff and all challenge disappeared as soon as I got lich and that blood spell, but i remember that fight being

Playful Darkness. It's an optional mini boss. Not sure if you can go back and kill it after Alushinyrra. But that's definitely a fight you can skip.

Playful darkness, yes, thank you. An optional fight, true, but the optional alushynirra dragon in the rooftop was not as rough, though. I felt playing solo just made the game easier.
Wonder if you can finish it on core/unfair without pre-buffing, that might be a neat challenge, and less tedious too. But tbh the game falls off after act 4 (maybe even 3?), not sure if it's worth the bother anyway. Are any of the DLCs worth starting up a full replay?

 

[razvedchiki]

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/535?tab=description

samurai class, there are already haramaki armors in game COME ON OWLCAT!

 

[Average Manatee]

Wonder if you can finish it on core/unfair without pre-buffing

Core probably. You can throw a good number of offensive buffs up on turn 1 and if you treat it like unfair by giving everyone Last Stand you've got enough time to finish tough fights. Alternatively you could go very hard on offensive spells which rely a lot less on buffs and can alpha strike pretty well to kill or incapacitate everything. You do have the issue being stuck with suboptimal equipment when having more than 1 DC and damage caster but Core should be lax enough that you can pull it off.

Of course, there's also stuff like kineticist which can solo the game essentially without buffs past a point.

 

[alcoholyte]

Wonder if you can finish it on core/unfair without pre-buffing

Core probably. You can throw a good number of offensive buffs up on turn 1 and if you treat it like unfair by giving everyone Last Stand you've got enough time to finish tough fights. Alternatively you could go very hard on offensive spells which rely a lot less on buffs and can alpha strike pretty well to kill or incapacitate everything. You do have the issue being stuck with suboptimal equipment when having more than 1 DC and damage caster but Core should be lax enough that you can pull it off.

Of course, there's also stuff like kineticist which can solo the game essentially without buffs past a point.

That bowling ball nonsense from kingmaker is still in? I could never figure out a fun way to play kineticist, but i'm told it pairs well with demon mythic path in this.
My solo lich run was p fun, and there wasn't much annoying cheese other than teleporting and abusing positioning. The entire first chapter was a rush man, that was the most fun part probably. The only tedious thing was the pre-buffing.
Kineticist looks like it'd be a pain in the ass, but I'm very unfamiliar with it.

 

[Average Manatee]

Kineticist is broken without mythic paths once it gets deadly earth. Demon mythic just takes broken damage and tripping and lets you turn those hits into an infinite attack loop.

The actual hardest part for a conventional group to do unbuffed is probably something like the fear/paralyze auras random shit has, such as the crystal dudes.

 

[scytheavatar]

Does anyone know when more of the second season pass will be released?

Something very unusual is going on Owlcat, after the whole spyware nonsense they have been sending surveys asking how DLCs should be handed. I suspect the WOTR DLCs have not been selling as much as Owlcat hoped and they are in full panic mode, and rightfully so. Trying to treat a single player CRPG like it is Path of Exile is a dumbfuck idea and never is going to work. It will not surprise me if the rest of the second season pass gets substandard quality and released quietly as Owlcat tries to cut their losses.

 

[Jarpie]

Does anyone know when more of the second season pass will be released?

Something very unusual is going on Owlcat, after the whole spyware nonsense they have been sending surveys asking how DLCs should be handed. I suspect the WOTR DLCs have not been selling as much as Owlcat hoped and they are in full panic mode, and rightfully so. Trying to treat a single player CRPG like it is Path of Exile is a dumbfuck idea and never is going to work. It will not surprise me if the rest of the second season pass gets substandard quality and released quietly as Owlcat tries to cut their losses.

What Varnhold expansion did right for Kingmaker was to tie it into the main story, and I'm a bit surprised if Shifter dlc didn't sell well, and the sidestory dlc was well received.

 

[Ulysa]

First run. Is "Playful Darkness" name a metaphor for rape? It certainly recreates what happened to my party.

 

[Average Manatee]

Something very unusual is going on Owlcat, after the whole spyware nonsense they have been sending surveys asking how DLCs should be handed. I suspect the WOTR DLCs have not been selling as much as Owlcat hoped and they are in full panic mode, and rightfully so. Trying to treat a single player CRPG like it is Path of Exile is a dumbfuck idea and never is going to work. It will not surprise me if the rest of the second season pass gets substandard quality and released quietly as Owlcat tries to cut their losses.

I see it the other way. The survey (at least the one I saw) was almost entirely about whether future DLCs should be integrated into the main game like Sarkorians was, asked in about 10 different ways. My guess is that Sarkorians sold notably better than previous DLC and they are considering whether to change their plans and make more integrated DLC rather than separate campaigns.

First run. Is "Playful Darkness" name a metaphor for rape? It certainly recreates what happened to my party.

Playful refers to the touch attacks you need to hit him.

 

[razvedchiki]

should i stick with cavalier or take 1 lvl and the rest something else?

 

[Average Manatee]

should i stick with cavalier or take 1 lvl and the rest something else?

IMO cavalier is a bad class that takes way to long to get its best abilities. Extra charge multiplier at level 20 is way too late, should be a centerpiece of the class gotten early. Until then other full BAB classes with pets (Demonslayer, Paladin, Sohei, Mad Dog) all can do as much or more damage on the charge and even after it they have way more other things that benefit them when not charging.

I'm not sure what you're interested in 1 level of cavalier for. The teamwork feat he can use for 3 rounds once per day? It's really kind of meh. The only great teamwork feat you want ASAP is outflank but you want it all the time, don't want to spend a whole standard action to grant it to allies (e.g. for fights you can't prebuff), and everyone is going to get outflank at level 5/7 anyway. Main reason I'd dip 1 level cavalier is as Beast Rider to get a better pet (Boar for me) on the classes that are limited to worse pets normally.

 

[razvedchiki]

so beast rider 1 then lets say mutation warrior?

 

[Average Manatee]

Mutation Warrior won't level the pet. You can take 4 with boon companion feat but any more and your pet will fall behind. Mutation Warrior 5 is a justifiable loss for weapon training though. If you do this then you won't want to combine it with another class that gets a pet at -4 class levels (e.g. Demonslayer), although I think all of those options get full pet selection and wouldn't need Beast Rider 1 anyway.

 

[skaraher]

My first character was an Aeon Cavalier 16/Hellknight 4 on Core. He sucked.

 

[Haplo]

should i stick with cavalier or take 1 lvl and the rest something else?

If you care about charging, 3 levels with Order of Cockatrice are generally a sweet spot.
You get +2 AB on Charge, negate the AC penalty, get free Dazzling Display and +2 AB vs Shaken enemies. Plus a bonus Teamwork or 2 feats in case of Gendarme.

I rather like Sanctified Slayer 16 / Gendarme 3 / Sohei 1 for example.
Of course, its a bit more complicated then a straight Cavalier.

 

[razvedchiki]

its more of roleplaying reasons, i would like to fight mounted but i want to dismount indoors. mounted combat doesnt seem to be fleshed out at all, there could be made so much with it.

 

[Axel_am]

its more of roleplaying reasons, i would like to fight mounted but i want to dismount indoors. mounted combat doesnt seem to be fleshed out at all, there could be made so much with it.

Minor spoilers ahead. If you want to do some mount roleplaying you can go Azata mythic path for a dragon which you can ride.

 

[razvedchiki]

i cant stand the azata path, and especially the cookie eating dragon. it doesnt fit with the overall tone of the game.

 

[Axel_am]

I was revolting at what my crusade was turning into after I picked the Azatha path. But what can I say - the hippies slowly grew on me. When it was all over I did not regret picking that MP at all.

 

[Infinitron]

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