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[Desiderius]

There's something I do not understand. I play as crossblooded sorcerer 12 INT and 20 CHA, level 6. And I still do not have possibility to cast 3rd lv spells; I can cast 8 spells of 1st level and 6 spells of 2nd level. Have I fucked up my build? I thought that all sorcerers except sage subclass need Charisma. If this piece of shit is depended on INT to unlock 3rd level spells and beyond I will have my whole week ruined.

Press C - Class - and take a look at the progression chart. I think cross bloodied got fewer spells to cast, maybe it delays spell prog too?

The price of falling for the meme. It’s all clickbait.

 

[Desiderius]

There's something I do not understand. I play as crossblooded sorcerer 12 INT and 20 CHA, level 6. And I still do not have possibility to cast 3rd lv spells; I can cast 8 spells of 1st level and 6 spells of 2nd level. Have I fucked up my build? I thought that all sorcerers except sage subclass need Charisma. If this piece of shit is depended on INT to unlock 3rd level spells and beyond I will have my whole week ruined.

The Sorceror is CHA-based for spells and casting, and should have 3 3rd level spells at lvl 6. You don't have levels in other classes, right?

Drawbacks
A crossblooded sorcerer has one fewer spell known at each level (including cantrips) than is presented on Table: Sorcerer Spells Known.

Furthermore, the conflicting urges created by the divergent nature of the crossblooded sorcerer’s dual heritage forces her to constantly take some mental effort just to remain focused on her current situation and needs. This leaves her with less mental resolve to deal with external threats. A crossblooded sorcerer always takes a –2 penalty on Will saves.

Spell progression also one behind last time I tested it.

 

[TheEntitledOne]

Should I have more than one active general? So Far, leveling a single general seems overall more effective, at least for Chapter 2. should I start to level a second one?

 

[frajaq]

im praying to GOD the next owlcat games dont have side-gimmicks like Kingdom/Crusade Management, holy shit it just becomes a slog

 

[Reinhardt]

So looks like Ember is really loli Jesus. Maybe next i will play as party of crusaders whose mission is to protect her while she walks into Abyss. No companions besides Ember. Just 5 crusaders. Some english longbowman, some priest, hedge knight, sergeant and yuge russian orthodox druzhinnik.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Is Cloak of the Winter Wolf in WotR? If yes, then where?

 

[Orud]

Maybe! I mean she is black-skinned that's it. She's got trickery and stealth proficiency tho which is sus. But so far she looks like she is just a reformed criminal ( more like an orphan) that grew in the war-torn city.
Maybe it's because I'm not forced to live with them? Sure we got Churkas, but they are rather different I believe.

I don't mind Seelah that much, but I have a soft spot for Paladins in general. My biggest complaint is just how naïve she is for a full fledged Paladin. She had a shitty life and made a mistake, then chose to work her way up. That's commendable. What isn't, is her blind belief that anyone can, and is willing, to redeem themselves (like herself). Especially since she isn't a dumb fuckwit that worships Shelyn, but Iomedae. As a Paladin she's supposed to have a healthy sense of when someone has gone off the deep-end or when someone is redeemable.

It also doesn't help that she's constantly, openly, mentioning how unsure she is of herself. How the hell is she supposed to be an inspiration to others as a Paladin? Bitch, you got 15 charisma, act like it! To me, it feels like she should've started as a plain lawful good fighter that is elevated to Paladin (or not) depending on her personal quest.

 

[Shadenuat]

There's something I do not understand. I play as crossblooded sorcerer 12 INT and 20 CHA, level 6. And I still do not have possibility to cast 3rd lv spells; I can cast 8 spells of 1st level and 6 spells of 2nd level. Have I fucked up my build? I thought that all sorcerers except sage subclass need Charisma. If this piece of shit is depended on INT to unlock 3rd level spells and beyond I will have my whole week ruined.

The Sorceror is CHA-based for spells and casting, and should have 3 3rd level spells at lvl 6. You don't have levels in other classes, right?

Drawbacks
A crossblooded sorcerer has one fewer spell known at each level (including cantrips) than is presented on Table: Sorcerer Spells Known.

Furthermore, the conflicting urges created by the divergent nature of the crossblooded sorcerer’s dual heritage forces her to constantly take some mental effort just to remain focused on her current situation and needs. This leaves her with less mental resolve to deal with external threats. A crossblooded sorcerer always takes a –2 penalty on Will saves.

Spell progression also one behind last time I tested it.

i am dying here

and your class is also so anime cringe u suffer minus to will for playing it!

 

[The_Mask]

But it is not a bug.

Healing spell requires touch but Insane/Confused target can't hmm... consent so you need to do successful touch attack.

Daaaaaaaammm'... next level play. I didn't even think of that one. Good call.

 

[Mortmal]

So looks like Ember is really loli Jesus. Maybe next i will play as party of crusaders whose mission is to protect her while she walks into Abyss. No companions besides Ember. Just 5 crusaders. Some english longbowman, some priest, hedge knight, sergeant and yuge russian orthodox druzhinnik.

Ember has a more significant ending than your main char...

 

[purupuru]

BTW, on Core, there is an initial attack by 3 swarms, then at least two more pairs appear, for a total of 7. Because hardcore!

Yeah that's like "the wrong route". They want you to go straight north to the queen as fast as possible. Since looting kills your troop, unless you really want the loot there is little point in exploring the place before you kill the queen.

Should be more obvious which way that is.

Well I actually think the "royal guard" is a fair enough hint. Although I did end up losing my sense of direction due to the rotating camera...

 

[Desiderius]

There's something I do not understand. I play as crossblooded sorcerer 12 INT and 20 CHA, level 6. And I still do not have possibility to cast 3rd lv spells; I can cast 8 spells of 1st level and 6 spells of 2nd level. Have I fucked up my build? I thought that all sorcerers except sage subclass need Charisma. If this piece of shit is depended on INT to unlock 3rd level spells and beyond I will have my whole week ruined.

The Sorceror is CHA-based for spells and casting, and should have 3 3rd level spells at lvl 6. You don't have levels in other classes, right?

Drawbacks
A crossblooded sorcerer has one fewer spell known at each level (including cantrips) than is presented on Table: Sorcerer Spells Known.

Furthermore, the conflicting urges created by the divergent nature of the crossblooded sorcerer’s dual heritage forces her to constantly take some mental effort just to remain focused on her current situation and needs. This leaves her with less mental resolve to deal with external threats. A crossblooded sorcerer always takes a –2 penalty on Will saves.

Spell progression also one behind last time I tested it.

i am dying here

I think they like to fuck with the clickbaiters almost as much as I do.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Well I actually think the "royal guard" is a fair enough hint. Although I did end up losing my sense of direction due to the rotating camera...

It was happening constantly to me too, until I learned to regularly press the F1 key or click the compass/clock.

BTW the queen itself was such a pushover compared to the swarms, it's unbelievable. Imagine this in PnP - the players would have been baffled.

But anyway, it was a great dungeon sequence. Well-ported from PnP logic, has proper motivation for the party to be going in, dangles a prize, but also a price for getting it, time pressure, just RPG all the way.

 

[Desiderius]

Should I have more than one active general? So Far, leveling a single general seems overall more effective, at least for Chapter 2. should I start to level a second one?

I have three in ch 3 and like it since it gives me a place to put all these troops and can tailor different set ups for different foes. Burn for Undead, healing plus high HP vs enemy Sorc generals.

Ranger starts with Confusion (Flare). I didn’t start second one until ch 3 but if you can spare the 6K wouldn’t be bad while you still have some easy fights to train on.

 

[Desiderius]

Well I actually think the "royal guard" is a fair enough hint. Although I did end up losing my sense of direction due to the rotating camera...

It was happening constantly to me too, until I learned to regularly press the F1 key or click the compass/clock.

BTW the queen itself was such a pushover compared to the swarms, it's unbelievable. Imagine this in PnP - the players would have been baffled.

But anyway, it was a great dungeon sequence. Well-ported from PnP logic, dangling a prize, but also a price for getting it, time pressure, just RPG all the way.

I never really figured swarms out in P:K either but they’re not intended to be that hard, especially here.

 

[gurugeorge]

lol, Owlcat be like, "We hear you like swarms."

Sadistic bastards

Pretty epic stuff though, you can just picture your wee guys running around in panic going momentarily insane from the demonic bug slime extravaganza

Regill is the MVP here though, he just keeps plugging away with his whirly gnome hammer thingy (how do those things work by the way? I can never picture them in my mind) while the others contribute when they recover their senses now and then.

 

[Desiderius]

lol, Owlcat be like, "We hear you like swarms."

Sadistic bastards

Pretty epic stuff though, you can just picture your wee guys running around in panic going momentarily insane from the demonic bug slime extravaganza

These swarms take half damage instead of no damage and don't drain stats so I think AwesomeButton is having PTSD or something.

 

[Delterius]

can someone test mythic trick stealth and see if divination dispels it kthx

 

[Parabalus]

Anyone managed to be trickster? How is it? Sucks or its ok?
Also can someone explain me why during the crusade minigame sometimes it sends me back to the map before I am defeated or the enemies is?

So far it's great, in A5. Hilarious and effective.

 

[Thonius]

There's something I do not understand. I play as crossblooded sorcerer 12 INT and 20 CHA, level 6. And I still do not have possibility to cast 3rd lv spells; I can cast 8 spells of 1st level and 6 spells of 2nd level. Have I fucked up my build? I thought that all sorcerers except sage subclass need Charisma. If this piece of shit is depended on INT to unlock 3rd level spells and beyond I will have my whole week ruined.

The Sorceror is CHA-based for spells and casting, and should have 3 3rd level spells at lvl 6. You don't have levels in other classes, right?

Drawbacks
A crossblooded sorcerer has one fewer spell known at each level (including cantrips) than is presented on Table: Sorcerer Spells Known.

Furthermore, the conflicting urges created by the divergent nature of the crossblooded sorcerer’s dual heritage forces her to constantly take some mental effort just to remain focused on her current situation and needs. This leaves her with less mental resolve to deal with external threats. A crossblooded sorcerer always takes a –2 penalty on Will saves.

Spell progression also one behind last time I tested it.

i am dying here

I think they like to fuck with the clickbaiters almost as much as I do.

Right... so 6th level regular, non-animu, gets 1 spell. Thanks to the drawback he gets 0 spells. Pretty sure(not really) you can compensate it with 2 mythic feats ( ascended bloodline)

 

[Delterius]

Right... so 6th level regular, non-animu, gets 1 spell. Thanks to the drawback he gets 0 spells. Pretty sure(not really) you can compensate it with 2 mythic feats ( ascended bloodline)

No you can't. Ascended Bloodline has absolutely nothing to do with spell progression. All it does is give you your capstone. What you *can* do is metamagic, use sorcerer rings that add spell options, merge spellbooks.

 

[Haplo]

bought lots of items

Why? I never even opened my inventory after the middle of chapter 4. Also itemization was very very bad.

Doubtful any game has better itemization than this.

From what I've seen so far, I doubt the itemization here comes anywhere near Deadfire level, particularly in relation to gameplay and playstyle impact.

 

[Thonius]

Right... so 6th level regular, non-animu, gets 1 spell. Thanks to the drawback he gets 0 spells. Pretty sure(not really) you can compensate it with 2 mythic feats ( ascended bloodline)

No you can't. Ascended Bloodline has absolutely nothing to do with spell progression. All it does is give you your capstone. What you *can* do is metamagic, use sorcerer rings that add spell options, merge spellbooks.

BUT you get BONUS bloodline spells, no? Or am I mixing it with priest domains...

 

[Delterius]

Right... so 6th level regular, non-animu, gets 1 spell. Thanks to the drawback he gets 0 spells. Pretty sure(not really) you can compensate it with 2 mythic feats ( ascended bloodline)

No you can't. Ascended Bloodline has absolutely nothing to do with spell progression. All it does is give you your capstone. What you *can* do is metamagic, use sorcerer rings that add spell options, merge spellbooks.

BUT you get BONUS bloodline spells, no? Or am I mixing it with priest domains...

nope

Benefit: You immediately gain an ability from the 20th level of your bloodline.

 

[gurugeorge]

bought lots of items

Why? I never even opened my inventory after the middle of chapter 4. Also itemization was very very bad.

Doubtful any game has better itemization than this.

From what I've seen so far, I doubt the itemization here comes anywhere near Deadfire level, particularly in relation to gameplay and playstyle impact.

Yeah I get the feeling that a lot of the gear you get that looks kind of juicy at first glance is just supposed to feed your army basically. There are a lot of "+1, and cast tea and muffins whenever you trip over a bollard" type things. Still, at least it's not "+0.00003% to defence against the occasional hangover."