Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Parabalus]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

And then you find out your class ability is bugged.

Or an interaction doesn't work as advertised.

Shelve a playthrough or respec? Or just push through?

 

[Efe]

respec should stay until they are sure everything works.
It also makes it easier to test possible synergies

 

[Desiderius]

PSA: Respec-function is broken

Crusaders! An important announcement:
We are now working on an issue that turned out to be really serious and the fix deeply affected the internal structure of the game. Please note that if you saved after using respec in Act II or further, your saved game may remain corrupted, potentially blocking your playthrough. Mythic Demon and Lich are the most affected by this problem. We are very sorry for the inconvenience caused, and strongly recommend to revert back to a save made before respeccing.
Please stay away of the respec function up until the next patch. The problem will be gone then.

Nice going :D

It seems like using the mod to respec instead of in game respec works just fine.

Eh I used respec for Regill to reduce him 2 levels so I can pick another 1st Hellknight ability.. hopefully it does not cause problems.

What the actual fuck? Why? Risk breaking your game for that?

 

[Desiderius]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

And then you find out your class ability is bugged.

Or an interaction doesn't work as advertised.

Shelve a playthrough or respec? Or just push through?

That's a good point. To expect it not to cause some problems though is just hard to imagine thinking that.

 

[AwesomeButton]

<inane tweet>

It doesn't have to be some trans-retard, may be just hormonal treatment for some gynecological problem? :D

 

[Parabalus]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

And then you find out your class ability is bugged.

Or an interaction doesn't work as advertised.

Shelve a playthrough or respec? Or just push through?

That's a good point. To expect it not to cause some problems though is just hard to imagine thinking that.

Is it?

They prevent you from switching Mythic paths, unlike in the Beta, so there really shouldn't be anything connected to the plot in it.

 

[Haplo]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

I might be inclined to agree... were it not the level of complexity, bugs and game length.

 

[Desiderius]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

And then you find out your class ability is bugged.

Or an interaction doesn't work as advertised.

Shelve a playthrough or respec? Or just push through?

That's a good point. To expect it not to cause some problems though is just hard to imagine thinking that.

Is it?

They prevent you from switching Mythic paths, like in the Beta, so there really shouldn't be anything connected to the plot in it.

In the beta you could. Wasn’t aware you couldn’t since I’m doing Core no respec run.

Wish I could lol.

 

[Irxy]

If you're a Dhampir - Sorcerer of Undead Bloodline and you worship Urgathoa, this is what you get as you have your first step towards Lichdom. Really nice attention to detail.

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I'm still in chapter 2 and have already seen multiple references to race and deity in dialogs, afair even class. Most in a proper context to specific race/deity, not just some random "In the name of %deity%!". A rare feature in this kind of games, especially considering the staggering amount of said customization options.

 

[Alienman]

That is proper C&C.

Remain girl or play videogame.

 

[Nikanuur]

Gameplay question: I'm looking at the sohei monk. They get light armor and martial weapons. Apparently FoB then would work with 2 handed martial weapons but the light armor disables your Wis AC bonus. So should I just build the monk like a lightly armored fighter with high Str and Dex instead of Wis? Seems counterintuitive to not rely on THE prime Monk stat.

Wouldn't armor disable Flurry of Blows also?

Idk what is wrong or right, but if I dress Lann in that nice shiney mithral chain shirt (0 armor penalties) or even in studded leather, he retains the same number of bow attacks and he gets no penalties. I can't find any button to switch the Flurry of Blows manually, it seems it's always on. Unlike the holic's mod on Kingmaker. So I presume this would be the same for the close combat monk.

 

[ArchAngel]

PSA: Respec-function is broken

Crusaders! An important announcement:
We are now working on an issue that turned out to be really serious and the fix deeply affected the internal structure of the game. Please note that if you saved after using respec in Act II or further, your saved game may remain corrupted, potentially blocking your playthrough. Mythic Demon and Lich are the most affected by this problem. We are very sorry for the inconvenience caused, and strongly recommend to revert back to a save made before respeccing.
Please stay away of the respec function up until the next patch. The problem will be gone then.

Nice going :D

It seems like using the mod to respec instead of in game respec works just fine.

Eh I used respec for Regill to reduce him 2 levels so I can pick another 1st Hellknight ability.. hopefully it does not cause problems.

What the actual fuck? Why? Risk breaking your game for that?

I didn't know this was a problem. I did that yesterday. I picked his +4 strenght and +10 feet movement ability and then took Mythic Weapon Finess so I wanted a more useful Hellknight ability. Most of them are kind of bad, even domain ones.

 

[LannTheStupid]

I'm still in chapter 2 and have already seen multiple references to race and deity in dialogs, afair even class. Most in a proper context to specific race/deity, not just some random "In the name of %deity%!". A rare feature in this kind of games, especially considering the staggering amount of said customization options.

Well, to be fair "double reactivity", which you might be experiencing, was a stretch goal in the Wrath Kickstarter. It is nice to see that they actually implemented it.

 

[Saark]

The funny part about respec issues, is that using the one from toybox apparently does not cause the Mythic Path trigger issues, compared to using the ingame respec.

Full respec also allows some feats that are indirectly unlocked to serve as proper requirements for other feats. I.e. you cannot choose Shatter Defenses when leveling up regularly, even if you have the Hex that grants Dazzling Display. But if you respec and pick the levels all at once, it does work. Dazzling Display still stops working after a reset/reload, but Shatter Defenses stays usable.

It's sad that the Demon Path main mechanics are so underwhelming, because the Demonic Charge is really fucking good. Even at Rank 3 its already 6d6 unholy damage in an aoe, usable every turn, as a move action. Has the same issues as regular abilities that count as move actions though, as in you need to cast it as your last action, or it will keep you from getting a standard action in at all.
Part of me wants to cheat high saves to see if there is another solution to Insistent Summons if you repeatedly pass the saves, or if its inevitable that Hepzamirah will overcome your willpower/rage and summon you to the Abyss.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

respec should stay until they are sure everything works.
It also makes it easier to test possible synergies

They should really just let you create characters, start to finish, in a dedicated build maker.

Then again, if that was an option, I think I'd spend more time theory crafting than actually playing.

 

[Obsequious Approbation]

That feeling when you return from hell itself, but then you realize

Spoiler

your useless queen bungled your crusade in your absence.
Galfrey, you bitch, give me back my legions!
And my treasury, too. Goodness, I am a very lawful lad, a perfect Aeon, but I swear upon Allah's name that I will smite that woman from existence.

All right, props to Owlcat for this: they did give me the opportunity to have my vengeance. Perhaps I did not get to aeon her into nothing, but I'm well satisfied with how things turned out in the end.

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Enjoy what's left of your life, you geriatric wench!

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Spoiler

Wenduag romance when you're evil is really just ''Yeah let's fuck and btw i might be into BDSM *wink*'' so far. I wonder how different is if you''re playing a good aligned character.

 

[Desiderius]

Gameplay question: I'm looking at the sohei monk. They get light armor and martial weapons. Apparently FoB then would work with 2 handed martial weapons but the light armor disables your Wis AC bonus. So should I just build the monk like a lightly armored fighter with high Str and Dex instead of Wis? Seems counterintuitive to not rely on THE prime Monk stat.

Wouldn't armor disable Flurry of Blows also?

Idk what is wrong or right, but if I dress Lan in that nice shiney mithral chain shirt (0 armor penalties) or even in studded leather, he retains the same number of bow attacks and he gets no penalties. I can't find any button to switch the Flurry of Blows manually, it seems it's always on. Unlike the holic's mod on Kingmaker. So I presume this would be the same for the close combat monk.

I like the CMB Padded

 

[Desiderius]

The funny part about respec issues, is that using the one from toybox apparently does not cause the Mythic Path trigger issues, compared to using the ingame respec.

Full respec also allows some feats that are indirectly unlocked to serve as proper requirements for other feats. I.e. you cannot choose Shatter Defenses when leveling up regularly, even if you have the Hex that grants Dazzling Display. But if you respec and pick the levels all at once, it does work. Dazzling Display still stops working after a reset/reload, but Shatter Defenses stays usable.

It's sad that the Demon Path main mechanics are so underwhelming, because the Demonic Charge is really fucking good. Even at Rank 3 its already 6d6 unholy damage in an aoe, usable every turn, as a move action. Has the same issues as regular abilities that count as move actions though, as in you need to cast it as your last action, or it will keep you from getting a standard action in at all.
Part of me wants to cheat high saves to see if there is another solution to Insistent Summons if you repeatedly pass the saves, or if its inevitable that Hepzamirah will overcome your willpower/rage and summon you to the Abyss.

I feel like if you’re using a lot of Swifts and Move Actions you’re almost priced into TB at this point. Free Actions fire immediately which is what makes Improved Quarry and Ki Attack/Perfect Strike so good.

Auto-sicken Quarry gloves now working properly for Aru/Gheybor.

Quarry from Aru and Relic belt from Lann first round of combat as they move into position has a nice rhythm to it.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

It's sad that the Demon Path main mechanics are so underwhelming, because the Demonic Charge is really fucking good. Even at Rank 3 its already 6d6 unholy damage in an aoe, usable every turn, as a move action. Has the same issues as regular abilities that count as move actions though, as in you need to cast it as your last action, or it will keep you from getting a standard action in at all.

I won against Staunton because i used Demon Charge into Shocking Grasp and that shit deals loads of damage. I just need to be careful about getting hit by AoOs tho.

 

[Efe]

even swift actions (bard song) might not activate first round and you are stuck toggling it on and off and nothing happens, until you deselect character completely and/or cancel its action queue. happens rarely tho.

in cackle usage too, if you autocast it does it cackle twice per round or only once? It seemed to me its only doing it once but if i spam button manually it does twice.

 

[Nerevar]

New 4.5GB patch what is it?

 

[Saark]

I feel like if you’re using a lot of Swifts and Move Actions you’re almost priced into TB at this point. Free Actions fire immediately which is what makes Improved Quarry and Ki Attack/Perfect Strike so good.

The main issue with Move Actions is that, unless its you just actually moving, they oftentimes lock you out of using standard actions after. I.e. I can cast regular spells and then Demonic Charge, but I cannot Demonic Charge and then cast a spell. Other Move Actions have the same issue in TB mode, which is quite annoying. Playing RtwP with Demonic Charge on Autocast is quite hilarious, actually. And it seems that you're never subjected to AoOs either, at least I never was. Can safely teleport into Melee, dish out the 6d6 damage, and run out of melee again. It's an interesting playstyle and a nice addition to my damage output, especially as Winter Witch doesn't really come online until level 14-15.

 

[Desiderius]

PSA: Respec-function is broken

Crusaders! An important announcement:
We are now working on an issue that turned out to be really serious and the fix deeply affected the internal structure of the game. Please note that if you saved after using respec in Act II or further, your saved game may remain corrupted, potentially blocking your playthrough. Mythic Demon and Lich are the most affected by this problem. We are very sorry for the inconvenience caused, and strongly recommend to revert back to a save made before respeccing.
Please stay away of the respec function up until the next patch. The problem will be gone then.

Nice going :D

It seems like using the mod to respec instead of in game respec works just fine.

Eh I used respec for Regill to reduce him 2 levels so I can pick another 1st Hellknight ability.. hopefully it does not cause problems.

What the actual fuck? Why? Risk breaking your game for that?

I didn't know this was a problem. I did that yesterday. I picked his +4 strenght and +10 feet movement ability and then took Mythic Weapon Finess so I wanted a more useful Hellknight ability. Most of them are kind of bad, even domain ones.

You can’t be serious. Too many abilities overloading people’s brains.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Spoiler

Wenduag romance when you're evil is really just ''Yeah let's fuck and btw i might be into BDSM *wink*'' so far. I wonder how different is if you''re playing a good aligned character.

Ah, Wenduag. An decent character concept butchered by lazy fanfic writing.