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[smaug]

FUCK

I JUST NOW FOUND OUT THAT SMASHING CHEST WITH ATHLETICS BREAKS THE ITEMS


Ive broken like 4 Drezen chest and got useless scraps

Another one playing with tutorials off I see. You and fantadomat are two of a kind.

Tutorials are for pussies

 

[Desiderius]

I always think with D&D games that the way they should be played is by building characters with 20 point buy, with the tabletop (Core here) rules, with maybe only like one neat trick/synergy and the rest purely based on rp.

While min-maxing tickles my fancy from one point of view, I always think the way these games were intended to be played was more in terms of dreaming up a character/personality/biography, and letting their combat capabilities be come what may, so that the gameplay is making the best of whatever hand fate has dealt (type of thing). Theoretically that ought to tune the difficulty just perfectly.

That's what I do oddly enough. Designers made that OP compared to Minmaxxers. Hence I luv gaem.

 

[LannTheStupid]

In RT there’s a timer over the head of each dude, friend or foe. Lower number gets their first action to fire off first (except of course moving which is half the point) so you can survey the battlefield and see what dangerous shit is coming and try to interrupt it.

Higher initiative = lower number.

BTW, this is pretty much what I suggested to Obsidian to do in order to handle their rounds better during the PoE beta (man, I used to be so naive as to participate in betas). Their stupid line timers were useless as a means to measure the time remaining while combat is paused because the lines had the same length but advanced at a different speed depending on the recovery time. Truly genius and highly professional UI design for a videogame there.

Care to deliberate? I think that PoE RTwP was better exactly because it allowed increasing actions per tick with high dexterity and / or Durgan Steel. This is impossible in Owlcat games due to the hidden synchronization every 6 seconds. Why do you think this hidden sync is better?

 

[AwesomeButton]

In RT there’s a timer over the head of each dude, friend or foe. Lower number gets their first action to fire off first (except of course moving which is half the point) so you can survey the battlefield and see what dangerous shit is coming and try to interrupt it.

Higher initiative = lower number.

BTW, this is pretty much what I suggested to Obsidian to do in order to handle their rounds better during the PoE beta (man, I used to be so naive as to participate in betas). Their stupid line timers were useless as a means to measure the time remaining while combat is paused because the lines had the same length but advanced at a different speed depending on the recovery time. Truly genius and highly professional UI design for a videogame there.

Care to deliberate? I think that PoE RTwP was better exactly because it allowed increasing actions per tick with high dexterity and / or Durgan Steel. This is impossible in Owlcat games due to the hidden synchronization every 6 seconds. Why do you think this hidden sync is better?

I'm talking about UI elements only. You have two lines of equal length. One character has a recovery time of 2.5s, the other one 4.5s. While the game is paused you can't gauge which line will shorten faster, because obviously the game is paused.

If you had lines of different length - or simply a little number like PFK has - then the UI would have actually been helpful.

It's as simple as "Velocity = Speed/Time". If you have frozen Time by pausing, you can't possibly calculate Velocity by looking at the screen. I guess that was too difficult a concept to grasp for Obsidian UI designers.

Or, just maybe, better games were being made when the people making them were themselves players.

 

[Mortmal]

Low point of the game so far.

You expected something else from codex?

I'm still in prologue(and baked via Kickstarter) but I would've tried to pitch something like High Esteemed Codex of Rightness that's just a bunch of sceletons arguing forever in a locked fortress surrounded by worldwound.
Basically, crusaders argued over some little detail in their epic plan for hundreds of years and did not notice as they turned into undead.

One of the undead knight locked in a long gallery with ton of his portraits having long monologues about his achievements and ignoring everyone. That will be for next game ?

 

[Dishonoredbr]

PSA: Respec-function is broken

Crusaders! An important announcement:
We are now working on an issue that turned out to be really serious and the fix deeply affected the internal structure of the game. Please note that if you saved after using respec in Act II or further, your saved game may remain corrupted, potentially blocking your playthrough. Mythic Demon and Lich are the most affected by this problem. We are very sorry for the inconvenience caused, and strongly recommend to revert back to a save made before respeccing.
Please stay away of the respec function up until the next patch. The problem will be gone then.

Nice going :D

It seems like using the mod to respec instead of in game respec works just fine.

 

[Jarpie]

More info:

A bit of clarification on this:

The issue is that respec bug was affecting the mechanics so deeply, that we were not able to guarantee that your game will manage to repair itself even after the fix is deployed. I.e. things may be so broken in a given playthrough after respec, that even a fix won't help it. Highest chance to bump into this is with demon and lich mythics, other mythics have a chance to be affected, but it's considerably lower.

It does not necessarily mean your game won't work or that it will suddenly stop working after the patch - it simply means that if it was already broken, there's a chance it will remain such. Thus we recommend to revert back to an old save if possible.

Patch itself is about to come really shortly. Issue is fixed there and respeccing after patch is no longer dangerous.

Edit: would be nice if they'd actually tell us what might get broken, for fucks sake so we could look for it :D

 

[AwesomeButton]

Every patch is a small holiday. Like a mini-re-release

 

[smaug]

Drezen is buggy as hell, Sosiel got stuck in a door permanently and corpses either float up randomly or fall through the map..

 

[Parabalus]

Tbh I'm in A5 and haven't hit a significant bug at all, even respecced like 5 times.

 

[AwesomeButton]

FUCK

I JUST NOW FOUND OUT THAT SMASHING CHEST WITH ATHLETICS BREAKS THE ITEMS


Ive broken like 4 Drezen chest and got useless scraps

Another one playing with tutorials off I see. You and fantadomat are two of a kind.

Tutorials are for pussies

And so is complaining. But I know you are not truly raging over it, right

 

[smaug]

FUCK

I JUST NOW FOUND OUT THAT SMASHING CHEST WITH ATHLETICS BREAKS THE ITEMS


Ive broken like 4 Drezen chest and got useless scraps

Another one playing with tutorials off I see. You and fantadomat are two of a kind.

Tutorials are for pussies

And so is complaining. But I know you are not truly raging over it, right

I’m absolutely seething. But I’ve cleared out too much of this fortress to start over, so onward I go.

 

[Parabalus]

If Areshkagal is a demon lord, why doesn't he drop a crystal?

 

[The_Mask]

Tutorials are for pussies

You are what you eat, I always say...

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Tutorials are for pussies

You are what you eat, I always say...

How do you eat a tutorial.

 

[Saark]

It's not a one-time thing. The lesbian couple are the most prominent NPCs outside of part members until the end of Chapter 3, trans-girl is the one who gives you all the main quests. There is an unique animation of them hugging once they meet each other. Then they discuss interior decorations during the act-ending cutscene. It's very much intended to be prominent and noticeable by everyone. My personal theory is that they wanted to make sure braindead journos notice that there is gay representation in the game.

Most prominent NPCs? Give me a break. Both are complete non-factors in Chapter 4, in Chapter 3 Irabeth gives you 4 quests at the very beginning in a matter of 5 seconds, and then you turn them in with her eventually as well. Besides that you have 1 project for her, which pertains to her position in the army. None of this has anything to do with her being gay. You interact more with the Council members (of which they are not a part of, by the way), or individual NPCs like Ciar, Horgus, Nurah or Seilkind or whatever his name is.
Anevia barely shows up except for ~10seconds for the Dragon Hunt Quest, where she refers you to Nurah (which plays a more prominent role than Anevia+Irabeth combined), and Anevia also shows up during Cams Companion Quest, where shes totally fine with you keeping her secret and letting her continue to murder people to sate her bloodlust. Super SJW, you're right. Suture is a more prominent character than either of those two, and he actually has main-plot relevance. Anevia and Irabeth do not.

Also, there are 2 full-time healers in the game, the softest gay black man ever born or bisexual tumblr incarnate, if you're not playing a healer yourself you need one of them. They will both hit on your male PC until you explicitly tell them to fuck-off.

You mean the soft black dude with gambling issues whose anger you can fuel to the point where he beat someone to a pulp with his fists? Ah yeah, he's such a cheerful character, and you can't do any harm to him either. Despite, you know, killing him from the very start, or if you so choose, torturing him every chance you get, including being able to raise his brother from the dead on the Lich Path and constantly taunting him and his shitty beliefs. Also, that's typically how romances go. People court you unless you tell them you're not interested. If anything, I'd say its a fairly negative portrayal when all non-hetero companions come off as super horny, pushy and needy.

The fact you're just omitting Camellia and Ember, who are both Divine Casters, just to try to make your argument stick is very showing, however. There's like 6 different divine Casters in the game, 7 if you count Staunton. Meanwhile we have 2 Arcane ones, and one of them is a furry (and even that revelation lasts all of 2 minutes and after that you can just have her be a human at all times anyway). But sure, one of the divine casters is gay so thats totally pozzed.

It's not like people are talking about minor details, people are discussing things that were made to be noticed by as many people as possible. The only reason why wokeness didn't completely ruined the game is that long stretches of the game are dungeons with little to no dialogue. Sossiel is a terrible character and probably one of the worst gays characters in media in general, but he's bearable when the only thing he says are order responses.

Sosiel is actually pretty okay when you decide to turn him to the dark side. You can belittle his faith and beliefs every chance you get, and while at first he only falters occasionally, he eventually becomes a very different character. But he's still gay, so I guess most people in here would still have a problem with him.

To me, SJW writing that would annoy me is when it's in my face constantly and when the characters portraying said agenda would be either unkillable, or have no bad qualities to them/bring the topic up constantly. That's not the case. Their romance is a non-factor, to the point where you can hit Irabeth in the face with demonic Rage and give her a nasty scar and her GF is standing right next to you, barely complaining. Once Chapter 2 is in full motion, there's no hint of their romance whatsoever anymore. But to know that would require people to play the game for more than 10% of its content, and it would defuse many of the "game is pozzed" claims.

But hey, maybe people here simply don't know what the source material is like, and how Paizo went as far as to state that all Iconic characters are to be considered bisexual unless stated otherwise. Compared to the source material baseline, I simply don't see WotR as the devs trying to push any specific agenda at all. Even without that background knowledge, the game pushes topics like slavery, offers the option to have someone violently gang-raped, support cannibalism and similarly horrible concepts, with some of them being considered "lawful" options due to the locations those situations happen in.

 

[Sunri]

You had strong women in bg 1

you mean the worst companion in the game?

Viconia is worst companion?

oh, you're referring to the woman that gets beaten up and raped?

Yes she survived traumatic experience and still took revenge on her captors if i remember correctly so yes Viconia is perfect exaple of strong female character that went thru shit a stil had strength to go on with her life and when i mentioned strong female character you thought abour Shar-Teel which is more of a parody than real character lol

 

[Thonius]

PSA: Respec-function is broken

Crusaders! An important announcement:
We are now working on an issue that turned out to be really serious and the fix deeply affected the internal structure of the game. Please note that if you saved after using respec in Act II or further, your saved game may remain corrupted, potentially blocking your playthrough. Mythic Demon and Lich are the most affected by this problem. We are very sorry for the inconvenience caused, and strongly recommend to revert back to a save made before respeccing.
Please stay away of the respec function up until the next patch. The problem will be gone then.

Nice going :D

It also nukes learned spells, so if you spent $ on scrolls and decided to swap a feat - RIP.

Drezen is buggy as hell, Sosiel got stuck in a door permanently and corpses either float up randomly or fall through the map..

Do you realize that giant bombard you with rotten corpses and firebombs?

 

[Rafidur]

Mythic Demon and Lich are the most affected by this problem.

Guess that explains my level 0 dwarf that replaces the entire party, the headless Lann, the level 1 skeletal champion that can only wear bardings, etc etc.

 

[Thonius]

Chad roll with it vs virgin respecer.

 

[Saark]

Edit: would be nice if they'd actually tell us what might get broken, for fucks sake so we could look for it :D

For Demon in particular, its the very first Mythic Quest, Insistent Summons. After you make the Mythic Path Choice for Demons, Hepzamirah speaks your name and summons you, to imprison and torture you. You can resist her summoning for a while, either by doing a Will or Intimidation save, but they get progressively higher. (Last Will Save I had was 44, with a 57 Intimidation save). Eventually you'll succumb and have to flee the prison (while getting some help from another demon, ofc)

The bug here is that respeccing after choosing said path, will remove a flag or trigger that you are in fact a demon. You will still get summoned, but instead of being teleported to your cell, you and your entire party will be summoned to an island in the middle of nowhere, or inside a wall. The quest simply cannot be completed, and its literally the first Demon Mythic Path one.

 

[frajaq]

For Demon in particular, its the very first Mythic Quest, Insistent Summons. After you make the Mythic Path Choice for Demons, Hepzamirah speaks your name and summons you, to imprison and torture you. You can resist her summoning for a while, either by doing a Will or Intimidation save, but they get progressively higher. (Last Will Save I had was 44, with a 57 Intimidation save). Eventually you'll succumb and have to flee the prison (while getting some help from another demon, ofc)

The bug here is that respeccing after choosing said path, will remove a flag or trigger that you are in fact a demon. You will still get summoned, but instead of being teleported to your cell, you and your entire party will be summoned to an island in the middle of nowhere, or inside a wall. The quest simply cannot be completed, and its literally the first Demon Mythic Path one.

christ

no wonder one of the DLCs Owlcat wants to do is a low-level adventure in Kenabres, way less chance of fucking shit up like this

 

[The_Mask]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

 

[Desiderius]

They didn't need to provide respec at all. One of the reasons P:K didn't have it is that it's hugely conplex. Obviously.

Just because you're impressed with halfwits who talk baseless shit all the time doesn't mean everyone else is.

 

[zapotec]

i think i'll refund this bugged mess and buy trugodrad and encased