Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

One thing I genuinely dislike about this rule set is is how hyper-specialized with ONE single specific weapon it pushes you to be.
Few feats down the line (weapon focus, weapon specialization, improved crit, etc) and you have literally no reason to ever consider any weapon that isn’t your main one.
It’s… limiting.

That's why you specialize each companion on a different kind of weapon which makes it balanced rather than limiting.

No shit. Otherwise you’d be trashing 95% of the loot in this game, rather than the current 70%.

But it’s still limiting. Ive seen a mod that expand all those advanced feats to groups of weapons rather than specific weapons and while I’m currently refusing to use mods of any sort (or respec or anything not “standard” for core rules) I find that approach a lot more appealing.

 

[Fedora Master]

For some reason the game really really really loves its glaives.

 

[Jaedar]

Oh God I'm already thinking selective Sirocco.

I have this, but imo it's not that good. A lot of enemies have absurd fortitude saves, or are just immune to being knocked prone. Not to mention that the fire damage per turn will be resisted to nothing by a lot of enemies as well.

 

[Jermu]

Found all old faggot's pages and the reward was 265 experience

 

[Reinhardt]

I finished Act two without losing a single soldier, I pretty much intend to do the same with act three and I don't think it will be much harder.

Easier, actually. More and better archers to recruit.

 

[Reinhardt]

There's all kinds of people better at this game than me. Just not the memetards.

Git gud.

Well, every single one person in this thread is already better than you at least in crusade mode. Git gud.

 

[Shadenuat]

Her quest is top notch, and full of puzzles.

So... She can immediately forget she was shitfaced-drunk but I suppose it's not the same for any other deleterious Int affecting condition, like a poison. Just tell me if this is a plot hole or not, plz.

I think there is a joke about vancian magic somewhere in her char. She forgets things she doesn't need just like her class magik works. There was a similar try to play this in PST where Mebbeth/Ravel explained to you that wizards mind is an attic full of clutter, and you need to decide what to keep and not.

The way I would fixed Nenio char would be, aside from dropping some retarded lines, to play her amnesia card more, a lost fox in a lost land who forgot things that actually mattered in a pointless search for those that do not, and also to introduce her in Ch2 instead of Ch1, because in Ch1 there is already enough smartasses and a retarded fox overcharges already not so serious plot to a hyper janjansen level.
I would also make her real shapeshifter - human when hiding, and manytailed fox with natural spell when not. She could present fox form as her familiar or something confusing you and herself, or lose memories when keeping particular form too long - like wizards do in LeGuin's Earthsea.

Eh. So many problems in writing are easy to fix if writers just exercised some restraint and thought for 5 minutes what and why they are doing.

 

[Salvo]

God the game is so much better once you get to Chap 3

Although the Siege of Drezen is an incredible dungeon crawl, the pretty much linear path you have to take before getting to it immediately gets on your nerves on any playthrough bar the first

Now I understand what I was missing from Kingmaker

 

[Reinhardt]

Parabalus

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Do I need angel to save Kyado (Cleric in Erastil's Temple?) He dies to the rat curse if I go down there. Or can I help him later if I find the Zandres chick in Ivory Sanctum?

I could save him with Trickster, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. Never seen him later on.

If you wait he will become a man and save himself.

 

[Reinhardt]

God the game is so much better once you get to Chap 3

wot

 

[Salvo]

God the game is so much better once you get to Chap 3

wot

Being able to choose which problems to tackle is much better (imo) than being forced along a linear path. In CH2 you have a single main objective which is reaching Drezen, all other side paths are optional

In CH3 you have four different problems you have to face and you can decide which ones to do first, and I like that

Also I think Sword of Valor's fast healing is bugged, since my MC receives it anywhere on the map

 

[ArchAngel]

How does a Arcanist work? Some kind of Pathfinder Psion with mana pool instead of casting from slots?

Like 5E wizards which prepare spells like prepared casters and cast like spontaneous and has cool magic exploits. They can get some SLA and some exploits to incrase their spell DC among other things.

It seems you get less spells to cast per rest than even specialized wizards.

 

[Reinhardt]

God the game is so much better once you get to Chap 3

wot

Being able to choose which problems to tackle is much better (imo) than being forced along a linear path. In CH2 you have a single main objective which is reaching Drezen, all other side paths are optional

In CH3 you have four different problems you have to face and you can decide which ones to do first, and I like that

Also I think Sword of Valor's fast healing is bugged, since my MC receives it anywhere on the map

It's retarded. You MUST wipe every single peasant ass in every corner in the map personally but also you MUST wait until your army clear the path for you.
Army of crusaders sitting in 100m from quest location and waiting for grorious leader to do all the job while bitching "commander is useless! y no kween leading us?"

 

[Haplo]

Fairly sure Style Strike doesn't work, at least not for sohei. Never once even SEEN a trip attempt in the combat log.

Told you that much.

Kind of makes sense actually - leg sweeping from horseback?

In tabetop you're supposed to be able to "trade" weapon attacks for unarmed attacks (with any body part to boot). And then that 2nd or 3rd unarmed attack in the flurry could include a style strike.
In Owlcat's games however, once you've equipped a weapon, your armed and cannot do unarmed attacks (or style strikes).

 

[Cryomancer]

For some reason the game really really really loves its glaives.

Glaive and Halberds are the coolest melee weapons. The fact that this game focus on it instead of in boring longswords is a huge incline.

It seems you get less spells to cast per rest than even specialized wizards.

But no opposite/prohibited school. A Thassilon specialist can prepare the same amount of spells as a sorcerer, but being cut from 2 magic schools is a huge cost IMO.

 

[Matalarata]

Not to mention that the fire damage per turn will be resisted to nothing by a lot of enemies as well.

Get the mythic feat to ignore fire DR, that's my idea. Notice that I'm still level 10 though and I spent much of my precious gaming time answering a lost cause, yesterday

 

[Haplo]

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(Tyranny turns enemies friendly. Problem of course is that you cant force attack friendlies.)

lmao this dude is playing as a furry

Pounce charging master race reporting.

 

[Reinhardt]

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(Tyranny turns enemies friendly. Problem of course is that you cant force attack friendlies.)

lmao this dude is playing as a furry

Pounce charging master race reporting.

You fuck enemy leg after this?

 

[Jarpie]

How does a Arcanist work? Some kind of Pathfinder Psion with mana pool instead of casting from slots?

Like 5E wizards which prepare spells like prepared casters and cast like spontaneous and has cool magic exploits. They can get some SLA and some exploits to incrase their spell DC among other things.

Or just play exploiter wizard, get the exploits etc from arcanist with wizard's spellcasting.

 

[Matalarata]

You fuck enemy leg after this?

I'm just waiting for my battle scion to finally get Beast Totem, Greater. Then, enemy legs will be thumped en-masse.

 

[Jaedar]

Out of the companions, I appreciate the straight forwardness of the paladin (she's simple, and the writing rolls with it) and the modest wit of camelia and daeran. I also appreciate having a grovelling wendy for my evil character. But the true standout for me is Regill by far. Interesting and generally well written, with a novel character build to boot. I find nenio and woljif to be pretty annoying and while I haven't use sosiel or aru much I suspect I'd think the same of them if I had. I missed recruiting ember, and didn't think greybor was worth the money, so don't have much of an opinion on those.

I think the companions are generally a bit better than in KM (I would miss some of their interjections), but at the same time I can't wait for some of them to gtfo from the party so I have an excuse to make some custom mercs.

Not to mention that the fire damage per turn will be resisted to nothing by a lot of enemies as well.

Get the mythic feat to ignore fire DR, that's my idea. Notice that I'm still level 10 though and I spent much of my precious gaming time answering a lost cause, yesterday

Which is fair enough and all, but using up a level 7 spell slot for 2d6 damage per turn is perhaps not the best idea. Not the worst either, it adds up to quite a lot of total damage per cast.

How does a Arcanist work? Some kind of Pathfinder Psion with mana pool instead of casting from slots?

Like 5E wizards which prepare spells like prepared casters and cast like spontaneous and has cool magic exploits. They can get some SLA and some exploits to incrase their spell DC among other things.

Or just play exploiter wizard, get the exploits etc from arcanist with wizard's spellcasting.

I am playing arcanist, and I suspect exploiter wizard is better. Prepared spellcasting scales much much better with the mythic feats that increase spell slots. Being able to use transmutation spells on party members is pretty cool though (for the brown fur subclass).

 

[Jermu]

Puzzle quests were annoying but the reward was decent

Spoiler

Also (chapter 5 spoiler)

Spoiler

I Killed Areshagal easily the hardest fight so far

 

[Matalarata]

but using up a level 7 spell slot for 2d6 damage per turn is perhaps not the best idea. Not the worst either, it adds up to quite a lot of total damage per cast.

I'm not really in a place where I can discuss this since I'm only theorycrafting but I already took improved abundant casting, slots aren't really an issue imho. I'll be better informed once I get there but my idea is to use it to neuter the chaff and inflict some damage on everything on screen, exhaustion is nothing to sneeze at and, contrary to what the resident expert said, a number of scary entries in the MM are actually susceptible to it.

Edit: also you can scribe scrolls of selective sirocco and leave your precious slots for other things, if you're so inclined!

 

[Jaedar]

but using up a level 7 spell slot for 2d6 damage per turn is perhaps not the best idea. Not the worst either, it adds up to quite a lot of total damage per cast.

I'm not really in a place where I can discuss this since I'm only theorycrafting but I already took improved abundant casting, slots aren't really an issue imho. I'll be better informed once I get there but my idea is to use it to neuter the chaff and inflict some damage on everything on screen, exhaustion is nothing to sneeze at and, contrary to what the resident expert said, a number of scary entries in the MM are actually susceptible to it.

Edit: also you can scribe scrolls of selective sirocco and leave your precious slots for other things, if you're so inclined!

I haven't been doing any scroll scribing, definitely did not know you could scribe metamagic'd spells. And well, My main arcane caster is an arcanist, so even at level 12+3lich I only get 2 different spells at level 7 (even if I had the top spellcasting feat, that'd just mean 8 casts of those 2 spells). Currently I am mostly using level 7 to cast body of ice on anyone who goes into melee, because it gives a lot of good immunities and then using the few remaining casts for the mass exsanguinate lich skill. I used selective sirocco for a while, but found it to be very weak.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I find nenio and woljif to be pretty annoying and while I haven't use sosiel or aru much I suspect I'd think the same of them if I had.

Don't really care about Sosiel, but...

Spoiler

You can get his brother as a companion too once you reach the demon city. Chaotic Neutral guy, former Hellknight that got enslaved and suffered severe trauma as a gladiator. Would've preferred to have him in his LE, non-traumatized state since he would've been a neat counterpart to Regill as a more blackguard-ish and low brow sort of HK, but he's alright as is. Dunno if he has as many interjections in dialogue as 'normal' companions tho.