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[Shadenuat]

KM was very caster friendly. So much that I cleared it with just a banal evoker wizard moment I got webs and fireballs.

This one, I am still butthurt that many classical HD spells like Sleep can't do anything because enemies in Ch1 already have more HD. And spell resistance.

Drain, seen enemies immune to it. Chain lightning, would be good against trash I guess.

For me, castor should point into enemy boss and boss should die instantly. So far, most hilarious spell for this was Banishment, that has 1 will check (as opposed to 2 from illusion) and doesn't care for death or mind immuns.

 

[Lagole Gon]

I kind of forgot BSoD exists. Thanks for reminding me, Owlcat!

 

[Erebus]

So far, I consider the game to be much less entertaining than Kingmaker. Still, Owlcat has definitely improved on its previous game in some ways.

...And in some ways, it has not. For instance, it has somehow failed to realize that everyone hates swarms.

Everyone. Including the posers who pretend that they don't.

 

[Matalarata]

This one, I am still butthurt that many classical HD spells like Sleep can't do anything because enemies in Ch1 already have more HD

This game's chapter one's sleep is Create Pit

 

[Cryomancer]

Lich is the best for necromancers(I wish a vampire MP). Azata is the best for every other type of caster. Favorable magic + Zippy magic is amazing.

everyone hates swarms.

Disagreed. Only martials hate swarms.

 

[Shadenuat]

You just need to let go bro and accept Azata supremacy.

Eh, my first char would be azata because I need to get all this anime and romancing primadonna out of the way. Because I also suspect it's the least buggy one. Then I could forget about it forever.

here, enjoy some diabetes pills I collected for it.

Spoiler

 

[LannTheStupid]

it has somehow failed to realize that everyone hates swarms.

This is the main reason to add them to the game. And even to make it possible to become one.

 

[Lambach]

Of course we must care. Fighters are a second class citizens, casters must be better.

This, but unironically. As they level, Fighters get to swing their swords or axes or whatever faster and harder. As they level, Casters start from summoning butterflies and spitting mild sulfuric acid to conjuring City-shattering Elementals and causing a rain of fucking meteors to show up wherever and whenever they want it to.

Golly gee whiz, I wonder which of the two looks more interesting to the average player.

 

[Shadenuat]

Golly gee whiz, I wonder which of the two looks more interesting to the average player.

Yes.

In fact, I thought about trying to actually play 6 full caster party.

It would probably end up horriby difficult though without abusing buffing and shapeshifting in the end, or something like that.

 

[ArchAngel]

Eh so I see Desiderius is gone. I guess I am promoted to biggest Owlcat shill now.

 

[Shadenuat]

Eh so I see Desiderius is gone. I guess I am promoted to biggest Owlcat shill now.

You wish.

 

[Matalarata]

Golly gee whiz, I wonder which of the two looks more interesting to the average player.

Years ago, when D&D was a thing. Nowadays, fighters somehow swing swords 22 times in 6 seconds, while being impervious to 85% of known energy sources and being able to duplicate themselves on the spiritual realm, hence doubling their actions before haste. And that's before the monk dip!

I feel you man, I started playing in the '90 too.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I don't get why he got booted.

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For anyone else reading this post, let it be known that I'd make an excellent shill for hotpockets.

 

[Thonius]

They should work on PATHFINDING.
Motherfucking shitfaced cumstain! I'm absolutely assblasted by the fucking PATHFINDING in this game! Granted that I'm sleep deprived a bit but every time I try to enter one particular room with NOT SO GRAND encounter I get fucked in the ass by moronic pathfinding worst of all it's combined with SPACEBAR BUG ( I cannot pause on spacebar or icon), in RTWP I get gyga raped by idiotic pathfinding ( mount does not help) and lack of pause. TB - I just lose initiative every time! I won't it like 5 times already but every time someone dies and I'm all out of scrolls! It's MADDENING!

Yes.

In fact, I thought about trying to actually play 6 full caster party.

It would probably end up horriby difficult though without abusing buffing and shapeshifting in the end, or something like that.

That's the fun part, no?

I don't get why he got booted.

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For anyone else reading this post, let it be known that I'd make an excellent shill for hotpockets.

That's suck, anyhow how the heck sited generate income nowadays? Everyone got adblockers/antiminers and so forth.

 

[Mortmal]

OH GOD, I caught up with the drama, am I dumb or something? I don't get why he got booted. The dude is rough around the edges but cmon. A moment of silence.

ANYHOW, anyone checked disciple of pike works as I think it is, ie the smaller your character the better bonuses you get?

He wasnt booted , its a misunderstanding, rpgcodex has helpful staff. He asked for a ban, you can scroll up , so he was granted one . Same thing, if you ask for self eject, darkunderlord is a super helpful guy .

 

[Israfael]

This one, I am still butthurt that many classical HD spells like Sleep can't do anything because enemies in Ch1 already have more HD. And spell resistance.

Yeah, I was very butthurt to see that most enemies in the starting dungeon were exactly CR 5 so that most of my kit did not work at all. Had to reroll to generalist wizard by the tavern fight so that I would not loose transmutation (which is basically the only thing that works at low levels atm). Could get by without anything like that in the Kangmaker (and to add something extra there's Ekun-styled archer right from the get go in wrathfinder)

They should work on PATHFINDING.

Have you played Brigade E5?

 

[Shadenuat]

He asked for a ban, you can scroll up , so he was granted one

Eh. American will have time to play american games with his kids outside. I do pleinair painting when my heart fills too much with hate to sawyerism.

Yeah, I was very butthurt to see that most enemies in the starting dungeon were exactly CR 5

It's stupid because a) same problemsin KM b) they fixed undeath to death, maybe even cause I wrote long ass post on steam for this c) BG Spell Revisions fixed this shit ages ago by making spells scale a bit.
Also, 1 Round summons.

Also, while SR on say Cambions and Imps is entirely accurate to PnP, it's like, le tutorial man. At least make difficulty affect it.
And then you get like +40 spellpen and it doesn't work anymore.

Stupid! Buff early Wizards!

Spoiler

 

[Parabalus]

As much as I like getting new mythic ranks, it also depresses me because I know the game is just going to keep buffing the shit out of demons to scale with me

Yeah. Nothing ruins a power fantasy like Bethesda style encounter design.

Never really had that happen, even though the game spams mythic demons against you, as you go up in M ranks they start to feel like ants, even though they can demolish you.

 

[smaug]

Is the auto-buffer mod good? I'm so tired of casting buffs, why is there no scripts owlcat?????

 

[Grauken]

I see desi rolled a critical failure

 

[LannTheStupid]

Everyone got adblockers/antiminers and so forth.

I wouldn't be so sure...

They should work on PATHFINDING.

On the other hand, Kingmaker is the first game where in a huge dungeon (like in Varnhold's Lot or some of the locations in Vordakai quest chain) I can open the map, click the exit icon on the other side of the map from the party, and make some tea. When I'm back, the whole party is at the exit and no one is stuck, including Ekun's dog. Even if some of the doors were opened through puzzles. I do not remember any other CRPG where it is possible.

During the fights pathfinding is atrocious indeed.

 

[Lambach]

I feel you man, I started playing in the '90 too.

Well, I wasn't even born until '94, so I wouldn't know how the scene was back in your day, I'm just basing it from the older material that came out during that time and early 2000's. Not because of any "hipster nostalgia glasses" or such, but just because it seemed to make more logical sense.

Plate-wearing, sword-swinging motherfuckers were supposed to be a dime-a-dozen. Magic-wielding, hermit recluses that could summon a rain of fire from the fucking skies themselves were supposed to be extremely rare and encountered once-per-story and even less.

But yeah, Hollywood-ization took over, so now every mook with a sword can dimension-shift, summon clones, emit Chi-blasts or what-the-motherfuck-ever. Or maybe I'm wrong to blame Hollywood on this, because the Japanese ANIMU industry does the same fucking thing, and to even more of an extent.

tl;dr - The age of nuance is gone, everyone is fucking Goku now, so just fucking bring it all on.

 

[panda]

Yes.

In fact, I thought about trying to actually play 6 full caster party.

It would probably end up horriby difficult though without abusing buffing and shapeshifting in the end, or something like that.

I was playing without proper frontliner for a while and came to conclusion that dimension door is the best spell for such comps. Five guys do pew-pew then the last one teleports entire party out of danger. Spam all kind of cancer around (webs/storms/fogs + slow/exhaustion) to slow down mobs and battle turns into shooting range. It is cool, but frankly, not as effective as two invulnerable bricks on frontline. Especially against "trash" mobs when you don't want to waste spells.

 

[Fedora Master]

I do wonder which place he's going to grace with his useful and insightful presence now.

 

[Matalarata]

Well, I wasn't even born until '94

Man, jokes aside, I agree with you. I dunno what the source is, but everyone wants to feel special. It's not enough to be a stern and stoic warrior, no you must be a dimensional ronin or some other oh so quirky shite. As I said before, I ignore those things here because this is a SP game and I like to mix and match strange builds but the idea to bring those monstrosities to a table and play?

Shudders.