Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[LannTheStupid]

Btw when you use "hideous laughter" on enemy armies in crusader minigame, it seems that the AI slows down 100000 times. Every enermy army turn last like a minute.

Because they are laughing.

 

[gurugeorge]

100AC

Can someone explain what these numbers are even supposed to mean?
For example, here is the armor class table from AD&D

So if you have 2 AC, you have equivalent protection as someone wearing Plate Mail + Shield.


So, what does "100AC" represent in Pathfinder? Surely it's not just some silly anime-tier powerlevel number that keeps going up with no real meaning... right?

It's a bit of a misnomer really, calling it "armor class" - it's a more abstract concept that includes both armor and the ability to avoid being hit for any number of reasons. As the guy said above "how hard it is to hit you." And with a build like BolshyPlays, it's a big stack of a lot of interweaving conditional tricks that rely on high dexterity. 20 of those AC are conditional while fighting, it's actually 80AC just standing there (i.e. ready to be attacked but not yet actually fighting).

 

[Cryomancer]

Can someone explain what these numbers are even supposed to mean?

Argentine style inflation.

I miss 2E, where ancient gold dragons had -10 AC and there was no way to have crazy high numbers.

IF PF:WoTR has Argentina style inflation, DOS2 has Zimbabwe style inflation.

 

[Parabalus]

Can I get lann back after I already picked wenduag? I don’t want thots in my party

Parabalus

Not till

Spoiler

chapter 5.

awww dammit, that’s too long, wenduag is such an annoying prick whore but my only good archer

She's def less annoying than Lann, the latter is pretty whiny.

 

[gurugeorge]

One only thinks of it as "inflation" if one is glued to the concept of "armor" per se, but if one understands it in the more abstract sense that it's meant, it makes sense.

Dexterity, nimbleness, etc., are always going to be more effective in terms of avoiding being hit than armor - in fact if anything, armor means you don't have to rely on nimbleness as much (although I'm sure most of us here are clued up enough to know about plate armor not being "clunky" and actually allowing for a lot of dexterity and nimbleness).

Armor per se should really be a separate concept that takes effect if a hit gets through, included in something like "mitigation" or "damage reduction," and "armor class" should be renamed to something more abstract like "avoidance rating" or "defence rating" or something like that. e.g. for plate armor, it's more like a "glancing blows defence" effect, but with helmets being vulnerable to bludgeoning; for chainmail something different again, more like straight mitigation or damage reduction against certain types of weapons.

I suppose the struggle is always finding a nice balance between detailed simulation and having the system simple enough for a bunch of drunk nerds to understand

 

[Joggerino]

Can I get lann back after I already picked wenduag? I don’t want thots in my party

Parabalus

Not till

Spoiler

chapter 5.

awww dammit, that’s too long, wenduag is such an annoying prick whore but my only good archer

She's even worse if you fuck her. I had to dump her in the end.

 

[volklore]

I was pissed about Black Water's enemies because of that high AC until i remembered that Ember is more than just a Fire Nuke and has AC debuff.. Black Water was a piece of cake with Evil Eye.
Evil Eye is stonk.

I tend to forget ember is anything but a hex spammer lel

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

The more I interact with Wenduag, the more I think someone on the writing team just wanted to write a tsundere Viconia catgirl fanfic.

Someone out there has a custom Wenduag body pillow.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I reached Daeran's personal quest area. By Crom, this voice actor sounds like an average streamer reading the text out loud.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Someone out there has a custom Wenduag body pillow.

Wenduag dakimakura is the best merch Owlcat Games can sell.

P.S.: They should have included it into some higher Kickstarter level.

 

[Thonius]

That village "quest" well not really a quest more like location is a delish! Kind of redpill in itself.

 

[Thonius]

Is it normal to suffer so much as a necromancer in crusader mode?? I get 5 units weekly reinforcement and sometimes after battle I get between 20 and 40 basic undead troops. I also got 15 vampires in an event but they aren't anything special so the whole time I had to rely on random mercenaries. A I doing something wrong here?

yes you are wasting your time on crusade mode instead instaling auto win mode

I like both kingdom management and crusade management and want more of it.

I actually like management because it's like kingmakers but I already got tired of combat thingy.

 

[Whisper]

Very cool, never seen this interaction before. You actually have to FAIL a skill check to get this item.
Thank you, Pink Eye.

Where you got this?

 

[santino27]

Very cool, never seen this interaction before. You actually have to FAIL a skill check to get this item.
Thank you, Pink Eye.

Where you got this?

Presumably from the discussion in the Defender's Heart where the oread is insulting the crusaders? I don't think I've ever failed that skill check (diplomacy or knowledge world), so I'm not sure.

Edit: Yep:

Spoiler

Where to Find Power Fist, the Gauntlet of Punching

• You can get them from Pink Eye, during the same conversation where you can obtain the Claw of Jistka.
• While talking to Endarah, if you fail the skill check trying to defend the crusade from her critique, you can say "I think he has something to add", and the monk will reply. If this is triggered you will get Power Fist, the Gauntlet of Punching from him, right after getting the Claw of Jistka.

 

[purupuru]

Wenduag isn't tsundere though, she is the submissive "goshujin sama" type.

 

[Delterius]

Wenduag isn't tsundere though, she is the submissive "goshujin sama" type.

weeb

 

[Salvo]

Where you got this?

Presumably from the discussion in the Defender's Heart where the oread is insulting the crusaders? I don't think I've ever failed that skill check (diplomacy or knowledge world), so I'm not sure.

Edit: Yep:

Spoiler

Where to Find Power Fist, the Gauntlet of Punching

• You can get them from Pink Eye, during the same conversation where you can obtain the Claw of Jistka.
• While talking to Endarah, if you fail the skill check trying to defend the crusade from her critique, you can say "I think he has something to add", and the monk will reply. If this is triggered you will get Power Fist, the Gauntlet of Punching from him, right after getting the Claw of Jistka.

Correct. Gotta fail the check though

 

[Thac0]

Crusade mode is bugged to hell and back for me. A lot of traps straight up do not trigger.
A second bug however makes my life more pleasant, there has not been a single ambush while resting yet, and often I do not even field guards. Balance in all things.

Also lol at the game giving you barely any str characters. I wanted to use the little Hellknight as I found it amusing that my party is me and Ember at neutral good and 4 different shades of evil, then I saw he is a fucking dexlet like everyone else aswell.

The MVP of my party iiiis drumrolls the animal companion.
Prinny the Velociraptor now has 4 attacks, pounce, +5 strength before buffs. I slap the Azata buff for +2d6 radiant on him, and he shreds enemies to pieces.

All of the companions are kinda shit, among Ember, Wenduag, Nenio, Daraen, Camellia; Wenduag is probably the strongest, next to Nenio who just spams haste and slow.

 

[Cryomancer]

THAC0, which class your mc is ?

 

[Thac0]

THAC0, which class your mc is ?

Dinosaur Druid. He is the one layering on the buffs.

 

[Cryomancer]

Druids are amazing. Is the creeping doom amazing like it was in kingmaker?

 

[PrK]

Playful who?

Spoiler

 

[Thac0]

Druids are amazing. Is the creeping doom amazing like it was in kingmaker?

I am on level 4 magic still, just recruited the Hellmanlet. Early game Druid spell list is not that good, I mostly just gave him all the buffs like enlarge, communal protect poison/energy, bulls strength/cats grace, Freedom of Movement etc.
Leaves Daeran and Camellia free to spam summon undead. Spell is pretty broken this time, undead have no summon delays, power attack for 15ish damage so it even bypasses the 5-10 DR of early and midgame demons pretty well, and have good AB. I wonder if there is a way to make their weapons bypass DR easily?

 

[NJClaw]

I wonder if there is a way to make their weapons bypass DR easily?

There's the mythic ability Ascendant Summons, it boosts their stats and makes them ignore all DR apart from N/-. However, mythic abilities are so valuable to casters that I find it hard to justify picking that one.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

She's def less annoying than Lann, the latter is pretty whiny.

I wouldn't really describe Lann as "whiny" . In terms of general attitude he's more the annoying smartass that fails pretty bad at the "smart" part.

in fact, more often than not when he tries to come up with a funny quip or a "sleek comeback" he sounds like an inexplicably smug village idiot more than anything else.