Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[LannTheStupid]

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go all evil party and murder anyone that does not agree with you

How is this evil? This is the gist of any crusade.

 

[ArchAngel]

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go all evil party and murder anyone that does not agree with you

How is this evil? This is the gist of any crusade.

Exactly. There are no good crusades in D&D unless you are defending or fighting ultimate evil like demon/undead/devil.

In RL even less. Christ didn't say "go out and murder everyone that does not agree with you".

 

[Cyberarmy]

Exactly. There are no good crusades in D&D unless you are defending or fighting ultimate evil like demon/undead/devil.

In days like this I remember Lionheart and its crusade lores, crusade against the dragons and etc. That game and its world had unlimited potentioal...

 

[LannTheStupid]

In RL even less. Christ didn't say "go out and murder everyone that does not agree with you".

"REAL CHRISTIANITY HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED!!!" (C)

 

[cw8]

Up yours Marilith and your 6 arms. Let's see how many attacks you can make and how many attacks I can make:

 

[Cryomancer]

undead

There is nothing evil about undeath. In Pathfinder is only ""evil"" cuz it defies Pharasma dogma. But why is considered evil? The Gods has a monopoly over the positive energy and call creatures made by the opposite type of energy evil, but what is evil in a vampire who lives forever and enjoy his unlife forever if everyone who gives blood to him gives winningly? Nothing. Do you know what is evil? Imprison mortals in a body which will eventually become weaker and weaker, decaying till they die and prohibit people from obtaining a superior body. Yes, the Gods are evil. Undeath is just a natural evolution.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Urgathoa be praised.

 

[smaug]

Anyone who's done the Ivory Sanctum, did you get EXP from

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Eternal Guardian, those ghost minatuars, it says they're worth 10exp but I got none.

?

 

[Cyberarmy]

Let's see how many attacks you can make and how many attacks I can make:

I snowball them for great effect.

 

[Mystary!]

M'lady

 

[Thonius]

What the fuck is that blackwater shit? 50 armor for doom demons.... also whoever says their archers are epic cool killers I call bullshit, everyone, and their mother got DR piercing.
My melee dudes feel like can only hit on nat 20's archer succuby got 27 attack bonus, miss miss, reduced to 2 dmg. Meanwhile enemy almost always rolls 20's on their 6ths or so attack. The only one who deals any real damage is ember and my horse and mc if I cast true strike ( i got a feeling that arcane accuracy is broken)

 

[Parabalus]

What the fuck is that blackwater shit? 50 armor for doom demons.... also whoever says their archers are epic cool killers I call bullshit, everyone, and their mother got DR piercing.
My melee dudes feel like can only hit on nat 20's archer succuby got 27 attack bonus, miss miss, reduced to 2 dmg. Meanwhile enemy almost always rolls 20's on their 6ths or so attack. The only one who deals any real damage is ember and my horse and mc if I cast true strike ( i got a feeling that arcane accuracy is broken)

Do you have the belt buckle?

+27 AB sounds very low for A3, try pumping that to at least 40.

 

[Sunri]

What the fuck is that blackwater shit? 50 armor for doom demons.... also whoever says their archers are epic cool killers I call bullshit, everyone, and their mother got DR piercing.
My melee dudes feel like can only hit on nat 20's archer succuby got 27 attack bonus, miss miss, reduced to 2 dmg. Meanwhile enemy almost always rolls 20's on their 6ths or so attack. The only one who deals any real damage is ember and my horse and mc if I cast true strike ( i got a feeling that arcane accuracy is broken)

Just hit them with lighting they already nerfed

 

[ArchAngel]

What the fuck is that blackwater shit? 50 armor for doom demons.... also whoever says their archers are epic cool killers I call bullshit, everyone, and their mother got DR piercing.
My melee dudes feel like can only hit on nat 20's archer succuby got 27 attack bonus, miss miss, reduced to 2 dmg. Meanwhile enemy almost always rolls 20's on their 6ths or so attack. The only one who deals any real damage is ember and my horse and mc if I cast true strike ( i got a feeling that arcane accuracy is broken)

We are playing on Core, not Hard.

 

[smaug]

Any tips on building Staunton Vhane? I don’t even understand what he is supposed to be. What even is his feats and class, please help

 

[Thonius]

What the fuck is that blackwater shit? 50 armor for doom demons.... also whoever says their archers are epic cool killers I call bullshit, everyone, and their mother got DR piercing.
My melee dudes feel like can only hit on nat 20's archer succuby got 27 attack bonus, miss miss, reduced to 2 dmg. Meanwhile enemy almost always rolls 20's on their 6ths or so attack. The only one who deals any real damage is ember and my horse and mc if I cast true strike ( i got a feeling that arcane accuracy is broken)

We are playing on Core, not Hard.

What the fuck is that blackwater shit? 50 armor for doom demons.... also whoever says their archers are epic cool killers I call bullshit, everyone, and their mother got DR piercing.
My melee dudes feel like can only hit on nat 20's archer succuby got 27 attack bonus, miss miss, reduced to 2 dmg. Meanwhile enemy almost always rolls 20's on their 6ths or so attack. The only one who deals any real damage is ember and my horse and mc if I cast true strike ( i got a feeling that arcane accuracy is broken)

Just hit them with lighting they already nerfed

Yeah, except I play on core too. Camelia and mc got shock enchantments the problem is I can't land a hit and there are not enough charges on call lightning ( I don't have shock spell's because DUH demons are immune)
I had 0 problems with grunts, salamanders were a fucking pickle but still managed. But kavanguh or whatever tipped me over.


Also how the fuck I raise lich skeleton, cant use scrolls raise dead, cant just inflicts wounds on him or channel.

 

[Sharpedge]

What the fuck is that blackwater shit? 50 armor for doom demons.... also whoever says their archers are epic cool killers I call bullshit, everyone, and their mother got DR piercing.
My melee dudes feel like can only hit on nat 20's archer succuby got 27 attack bonus, miss miss, reduced to 2 dmg. Meanwhile enemy almost always rolls 20's on their 6ths or so attack. The only one who deals any real damage is ember and my horse and mc if I cast true strike ( i got a feeling that arcane accuracy is broken)

Depending on what level you are at and what group composition you have available to you, you have different options. At the point I did Blackwater, I had level 6 spells available to me. I locked them down with phantasmal web+phantasmal putrefaction+sirocco, then had melees beat them down while they are proned.

 

[Delterius]

But why is considered evil?

The spread of undeath stagnates the river of souls and leads to the end of reality. 'Pharasmite dogma' is that the world should exist for a while longer.

 

[NJClaw]

I'm going to visit Blackwater later today or tomorrow and I swear to God if it's not as hard as everyone is saying I'm going to shit all over this entire thread. If those supposedly invincible enemies can go down with Grease, Glitterdust, or Shout I'm going on a destructive rampage here.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

leads to the end of reality

y tho? Plenty of immortal beings on other planes.

 

[Sharpedge]

I'm going to visit Blackwater later today or tomorrow and I swear to God if it's not as hard as everyone is saying I'm going to shit all over this entire thread. If those supposedly invincible enemies can go down with Grease, Glitterdust, or Shout I'm going on a destructive rampage here.

You can do all of the above and its more or less how I dealt with the place when I was doing a group playthrough. Before they nerfed blackwater however, it was painful to do it solo, simply because the only method you had to overcome their regen was coup, unless you happened to be proficient in dwarvern war axes or glaives since those are the only adamantine weapons. Waiting until you land the coup hit on something like 100 enemies was exceedingly tedious.

 

[Stoned Ape]

I'm going to visit Blackwater later today or tomorrow and I swear to God if it's not as hard as everyone is saying I'm going to shit all over this entire thread. If those supposedly invincible enemies can go down with Grease, Glitterdust, or Shout I'm going on a destructive rampage here.

I didn't find it that difficult, just very, very tedious.

 

[NJClaw]

You can do all of the above

Then why the fuck is everyone complaining that it's impossible to hit the enemies when you can blind them, stun them, and get them prone? Do people expect to play this game without ever using a spell?

 

[smaug]

You can do all of the above

Then why the fuck is everyone complaining that it's impossible to hit the enemies when you can blind them, stun them, and get them prone? Do people expect to play this game without ever using a spell?

DC saves for enemies (I haven’t visited blackwater) have such high DC’s unless you’re focusing one school with proper dc gear you can’t do anything to enemies regardless.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Urgathoa be praised.

Playing as Follower of Urgathoa is great. I just got in the

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Abyss and first reactivy is mentioning that Urgathoa kinda likes the Abyss even if it's far way from her domain