Ontopoly
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I was hesitant when everyone was saying the next ap will be iron gods but after going through Blackwater dungeon I would totally be down for an ap like that dungeon but expanded on.
On anything under Hard, Iron Manning this game is not even difficult, with the possible exception of some fatal owlcat error interrupting your run through.Meanwhile, Wrath has been Ironman'ed from start to finish.
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My point was not about the difficulty, but about game breaking bugs and save file corruptions. If at least some branches of the game are stable enough for an Ironman run, I am OK with that.On anything under Hard, Iron Manning this game is not even difficult
Actually I was wondering how it does work. Does it affect the spell DC (lowering it by 1 ?) or nah? Does it mean you can completely normal the spell and then heighten it to 1 a heigher DC?
Otherwise I like the idea of using to lower the cost of other metamagic (if they can be combined), like 2-cost quicken with favorite metamagic.
It does, actually. Owlcat's implementation doesn't distinguish between changing a spell's level using metamagic and changing a spell's DC via heighten. So a level 0 Grease has no spell level bonuses to its DC. The bright side is that you don't need heighten magic, just add Quicken to a spell to increase its DC by 4.Actually I was wondering how it does work. Does it affect the spell DC (lowering it by 1 ?) or nah? Does it mean you can completely normal the spell and then heighten it to 1 a heigher DC?
Otherwise I like the idea of using to lower the cost of other metamagic (if they can be combined), like 2-cost quicken with favorite metamagic.
It doesn't mess with your DC's.
It does, actually. Owlcat's implementation doesn't distinguish between changing a spell's level using metamagic and changing a spell's DC via heighten. So a level 0 Grease has no spell level bonuses to its DC. The bright side is that you don't need heighten magic, just add Quicken to a spell to increase its DC by 4.
Another thing of note, I'm told that while you can create cantrips with Completely Normal Spell, they won't show up as castable spells in your character.
Ok, cool. These are new developments from last patch. Glad to know. Do DCs work as expected if you combine CNS and other metamagic? Can you choose CNS as Favorite Metamagic for -2 to spells? What about the stacking CNS with itself exploit?It does, actually. Owlcat's implementation doesn't distinguish between changing a spell's level using metamagic and changing a spell's DC via heighten. So a level 0 Grease has no spell level bonuses to its DC. The bright side is that you don't need heighten magic, just add Quicken to a spell to increase its DC by 4.
Another thing of note, I'm told that while you can create cantrips with Completely Normal Spell, they won't show up as castable spells in your character.
Nope, wrong. I literally just tested a level one ear-piercing scream and "cantrip" ear-piercing scream.
They both said in the description that the dc was 22, and when used on another creature, the combat log both stated the DC to beat was 22. Then I tested with grease (level 1 version and 0 version) just to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Sure enough....
Does not mess with your DC's in anyways whatsoever. So definitely hard NOPE on this one.
Also, the inability to cast the "cantrips" got fixed in the recent patch, so now you can.
Ok, cool. These are new developments from last patch. Glad to know. Do DCs work as expected if you combine CNS and other metamagic? Can you choose CNS as Favorite Metamagic for -2 to spells? What about the stacking CNS with itself exploit?It does, actually. Owlcat's implementation doesn't distinguish between changing a spell's level using metamagic and changing a spell's DC via heighten. So a level 0 Grease has no spell level bonuses to its DC. The bright side is that you don't need heighten magic, just add Quicken to a spell to increase its DC by 4.
Another thing of note, I'm told that while you can create cantrips with Completely Normal Spell, they won't show up as castable spells in your character.
Nope, wrong. I literally just tested a level one ear-piercing scream and "cantrip" ear-piercing scream.
They both said in the description that the dc was 22, and when used on another creature, the combat log both stated the DC to beat was 22. Then I tested with grease (level 1 version and 0 version) just to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Sure enough....
Does not mess with your DC's in anyways whatsoever. So definitely hard NOPE on this one.
Also, the inability to cast the "cantrips" got fixed in the recent patch, so now you can.
Heyy I mean, favored metamagic says you can't go below 0 but we're there already :D.I didn't even THINK of Favored CNS.
Heyy I mean, favored metamagic says you can't go below 0 but we're there already :D.I didn't even THINK of Favored CNS.
I thought favored metamagic was shortlisted, i.e no persistent and i am assuming no CNS...Ok, cool. These are new developments from last patch. Glad to know. Do DCs work as expected if you combine CNS and other metamagic? Can you choose CNS as Favorite Metamagic for -2 to spells? What about the stacking CNS with itself exploit?It does, actually. Owlcat's implementation doesn't distinguish between changing a spell's level using metamagic and changing a spell's DC via heighten. So a level 0 Grease has no spell level bonuses to its DC. The bright side is that you don't need heighten magic, just add Quicken to a spell to increase its DC by 4.
Another thing of note, I'm told that while you can create cantrips with Completely Normal Spell, they won't show up as castable spells in your character.
Nope, wrong. I literally just tested a level one ear-piercing scream and "cantrip" ear-piercing scream.
They both said in the description that the dc was 22, and when used on another creature, the combat log both stated the DC to beat was 22. Then I tested with grease (level 1 version and 0 version) just to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Sure enough....
Does not mess with your DC's in anyways whatsoever. So definitely hard NOPE on this one.
Also, the inability to cast the "cantrips" got fixed in the recent patch, so now you can.
The exploit still works unfortunately. Bit messed up that. I didn't even THINK of Favored CNS.
I thought favored metamagic was shortlisted, i.e no persistent and i am assuming no CNS...Ok, cool. These are new developments from last patch. Glad to know. Do DCs work as expected if you combine CNS and other metamagic? Can you choose CNS as Favorite Metamagic for -2 to spells? What about the stacking CNS with itself exploit?It does, actually. Owlcat's implementation doesn't distinguish between changing a spell's level using metamagic and changing a spell's DC via heighten. So a level 0 Grease has no spell level bonuses to its DC. The bright side is that you don't need heighten magic, just add Quicken to a spell to increase its DC by 4.
Another thing of note, I'm told that while you can create cantrips with Completely Normal Spell, they won't show up as castable spells in your character.
Nope, wrong. I literally just tested a level one ear-piercing scream and "cantrip" ear-piercing scream.
They both said in the description that the dc was 22, and when used on another creature, the combat log both stated the DC to beat was 22. Then I tested with grease (level 1 version and 0 version) just to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Sure enough....
Does not mess with your DC's in anyways whatsoever. So definitely hard NOPE on this one.
Also, the inability to cast the "cantrips" got fixed in the recent patch, so now you can.
The exploit still works unfortunately. Bit messed up that. I didn't even THINK of Favored CNS.
I don't think it works like that. Nature's Whisper is supposed to use CHA in place of DEX but only for AC and CMD calculation, not with weapon finesse (at least that's what the rule says). You are better off dumping DEX and go all in on STR and CHA.My brain is starting to have an idea.
If I pick up natures whispers can I for example put everything into CHA and use a finesse weapon and have super high ac and ab?
Maybe dueling sword or elven curve blade.
any creature engaging in willing sexual relations with the seducer in this garden gains a +2 morale bonus on saving throws
Can you prepare spells while getting a quick handjob?
Better question is, can you fit your whole party in there for the save bonus, or only one member + witch?
I wonder how people would react if the class was in the game, and most effective way to use it would be to run a train on your witch at every rest. Better yet, if someone modded Ember for that class.
Ontopoly you don't use mods until the rate of patches decreases to 1 patch per month.
Or you do, and you risk the whole game progress you made before the patch. Some people are OK with that; also, some people play Russian roulette and live.