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[lycanwarrior]

Good job devs, in a game with Demons the most disgusting living creature is

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Camellia

Lol she was definitely quite the serial killer. Albeit the game was definitely hinting that she was hiding some pretty evil sheeiiit.

 

[Mauman]

edgelord

Ok then.

That's a weird way to define being an edgelord though

 

[The_Mask]

Thing is, I also like Greybor and I even kinda liked Harrim (in a "he amuses me" kind of way).

They're miles ahead of crap like Octavia and Sosiel.

I kinda dislike Greybor because it reminds me of that post early-Quentin Tarantino era/pre-9/11, when everyone was SO FUCKING COOL. But they're really not. Like the guy can hit, I guess, but in my game he falls down rather quickly. Shockingly faster than Nenio.

Harrim was okay.

Octavia was a former slave. Life is different after you've spent your childhood trapped in a pen.

And Sosiel is... Sosiel. Sosiel might as well be the colour gray, so far. (haven't beaten his story yet)

 

[Mauman]

I kinda dislike Greybor because it reminds me of that post early-Quentin Tarantino era/pre-9/11, when everyone was SO FUCKING COOL. But they're really not. Like the guy can hit, I guess, but in my game he falls down rather quickly. Shockingly faster than Nenio.

Harrim was okay.

Octavia was a former slave. Life is different after you've spent your childhood trapped in a pen.

And Sosiel is... Sosiel. Sosiel might as well be the colour gray, so far. (haven't beaten his story yet)

Octavia has too much of a "LOOK AT ME I'M SO PRETTY" vibe which just rubs me the wrong way.

Sosiel is interesting if you corrupt him....and a bit disturbing. Otherwise yeah, he's boring as all hell.

 

[Haplo]

Good job devs, in a game with Demons the most disgusting living creature is

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Camellia

But she is helpful, is she not?

 

[purupuru]

Sosiel just feels...odd. The queen introduces him to you herself like he is someone important but really he is just a cleric. And he is the only companion that joins your party before you even have a chance to talk to him. It's like the writer couldn't fit him into the story properly then said fuck it and just shoved him in. They should have made him join you as part of Regill's intro quest, much of his personal quest has to do with Hell Knights it would have made perfect sense.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Greybor is bordering on "Nothin personnel, kid" type of cringe. I hate to say this but he's unexpectedly lame.

And I can't treat that Super Cool Assassin schtick seriously when he's the only one failing fear checks during the dragon hunt.

 

[volklore]

Sosiel just feels...odd. The queen introduces him to you herself like he is someone important but really he is just a cleric. And he is the only companion that joins your party before you even have a chance to talk to him. It's like the writer couldn't fit him into the story properly then said fuck it and just shoved him in. They should have made him join you as part of Regill's intro quest, much of his personal quest has to do with Hell Knights it would have made perfect sense.

I have Sosiel in my party because he has decent domains and make a good domain zealot bot, but mainly because Regill has absolutely savage lines when interracting with him. It feels almost like he was written to prop up Regill.

 

[ArchAngel]

Traitors? Hang em high.

Thieves? Hang em high.

Deserters? Hang em high.

I have a better system.

Traitors? Kill then and reanimate then as undead

Thieves? Kill then and reanimate then as undead

Deserters? Kill then and reanimate then as undead

Manlets? Kill then and reanimate then as undead

I got even better one. Kill everyone and reanimate as undead. No need to wait for them to do something bad. My party is almost full undead now. I am only missing a replacement for Camellia (nobody else has Barkskin and access to lvl 9 divine spells) and I am still using Wenduag because the undead Cavelier I got gets bugged out half the time when he trying to charge... also his horse is not undead and gets fucked even when he does not...

 

[volklore]

Just a general FYI for anyone else who enjoys playing spontaneous casters - If you level up while equipping items which grant additional spells to spontaneous casters (for example, the ring that gives a bunch of fire spells like scorching ray, fireball and fiery body) and you were due to gain a spell slot which could have potentially allocated a spell on the level of whatever spells the item is giving, the item will consume those spell slots and you will gain no spells of that spell level. So, to save yourself either having much less spells than intended for your class and having to respec if you want to fix it, whenever you level up, ensure you unequip any of these items.

fuck me sideways that's why?

It could also be because you took a second bloodline with the mythic feat, which does the same thing. Only you cannot "unequip" a second bloodline like you can with a ring, so the only way to undo that is to respec.

I haven't had that bug at all, I am getting spell slots as normal despite having the lightning thingy equipped.
Another REALLY FUN thing about those spontaneous spell items: You can metamagic spells you get from these items and remove the item, the metamagic version of the spells will remain in your spellbook.
Final fun fact, the lightning bracers you get in blackwater allow you to cast a SL4 chains of light - I am 100 percent sure this is unintended and a mistake from owlcat (chains of light vs chain lightning). But yah it's great fun to be able to persistent chains of light earlier :D

 

[Yosharian]

Greybor is bordering on "Nothin personnel, kid" type of cringe. I hate to say this but he's unexpectedly lame.

And I can't treat that Super Cool Assassin schtick seriously when he's the only one failing fear checks during the dragon hunt.

The companions would be much cooler from a build perspective if they had unique aspects to them, such as fear immunity, to use your example.

Right now the only unique aspects are either ridiculous point buys or stat bonuses from quests, I guess.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Greybor is bordering on "Nothin personnel, kid" type of cringe. I hate to say this but he's unexpectedly lame.

And I can't treat that Super Cool Assassin schtick seriously when he's the only one failing fear checks during the dragon hunt.

The companions would be much cooler from a build perspective if they had unique aspects to them, such as fear immunity, to use your example.

Right now the only unique aspects are either ridiculous point buys or stat bonuses from quests, I guess.

Things that Baldur's Gate did right #2345

 

[Minecrawler]

Sosiel just feels...odd. The queen introduces him to you herself like he is someone important but really he is just a cleric. And he is the only companion that joins your party before you even have a chance to talk to him. It's like the writer couldn't fit him into the story properly then said fuck it and just shoved him in.

He, Seelah and Anevia are introduced to you in a way that would make [I don't trust you, die] option impossible. And so you don't get it.
Camellia too, but with her

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you get oppportunities down the line. In fact, you are showered with opportunities.

Unsurprisingly as well, because she is a girl in a dress who likes only boys and this is owlcat/paizo setting.

 

[ga♥]

Camellia is... Camellia.
Thing is, she is written to be disliked, while Sosiel is forced upon you, and you must like him.
Anyone familiar with the AP, is he there too? Was he made by Amber Scott?

 

[Werdnicus]

... and you must like him.

You can tell him to fuck off during your first talk, and you should.

 

[volklore]

Sosiel just feels...odd. The queen introduces him to you herself like he is someone important but really he is just a cleric. And he is the only companion that joins your party before you even have a chance to talk to him. It's like the writer couldn't fit him into the story properly then said fuck it and just shoved him in.

He, Seelah and Anevia are introduced to you in a way that would make [I don't trust you, die] option impossible. And so you don't get it.
Camellia too, but with her

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you get oppportunities down the line. In fact, you are showered with opportunities.

Unsurprisingly as well, because she is a girl in a dress who likes only boys and this is owlcat/paizo setting.

I am fine with Camelia's writing overall

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Both the 'how far can you simp her?' line as a good character and as a NE/CE option where you'd go along everything

I actually kind of like her crazy quips/Battlecrys (The world in crimson!), they are more fun than most other companions. CE characters tend to be so not evil when you get them in your party (i.e Regongar was classified as CE, but he was a total bro and not really evil). At least she's really, really evil.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Greybor is bordering on "Nothin personnel, kid" type of cringe. I hate to say this but he's unexpectedly lame.

And I can't treat that Super Cool Assassin schtick seriously when he's the only one failing fear checks during the dragon hunt.

Eh, he grows on you at later stages but yeah, he's mediocre as best.

 

[Longes]

Starting deity will be a tough choice though. Well, since paladin/cleric of Ragathiel is not an option...

Probably been mentioned a lot of times but: There's a decent amount of reactivity based on your god. But like the mythic paths, how much reactivity is highly variable. It's still a very nice touch though.

The absolute worst deities to choose are Gyronna and Asmodeus. Gyronna has exactly two interactions in the entire game:

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One is cursing Hulrun for burning Ember, and one is auto-resolving a quest in Chilly Creak.

Asmodeus is arguably worse because he never chimes in with tips like the other gods, and Asmodean dialogue choices amount to bitching about Godclaw and talking shit to Nurah.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Starting deity will be a tough choice though. Well, since paladin/cleric of Ragathiel is not an option...

Probably been mentioned a lot of times but: There's a decent amount of reactivity based on your god. But like the mythic paths, how much reactivity is highly variable. It's still a very nice touch though.

The absolute worst deities to choose are Gyronna and Asmodeus. Gyronna has exactly two interactions in the entire game:

Asmodeus is arguably worse because he never chimes in with tips like the other gods, and Asmodean dialogue choices amount to bitching about Godclaw and talking shit to Nurah.

Reactivity exists, huh.

 

[Minecrawler]

I am fine with Camelia's writing overall Show Spoiler Both the 'how far can you simp her?' line as a good character and as a NE/CE option where you'd go along everything
I actually kind of like her crazy quips/Battlecrys (The world in crimson!), they are more fun than most other companions. CE characters tend to be so not evil when you get them in your party (i.e Regongar was classified as CE, but he was a total bro and not really evil). At least she's really, really evil.

I liked her too. One of the reasons being specifically the fact that you can lose her and are even encouraged to do so. Makes character much more valuable.
She could be more nuanced, CE doesn't have to be one-dimensional. I expected darker version of Raskolnikov, but whatever, it works as it is.

 

[Daidre]

I actually kind of like her crazy quips/Battlecrys (The world in crimson!), they are more fun than most other companions. CE characters tend to be so not evil when you get them in your party (i.e Regongar was classified as CE, but he was a total bro and not really evil). At least she's really, really evil.

Camellia is probably my least favorite companion in the Wrath's cast but I still find her a quite curious social experiment - her whole meta-schtick is how far the boys from Steam and other boards could go while rabidly white-knighting for the nice pair of tits, even when said pair attached to the irredeemably evil murder-psycho. Really, her writer was not even trying to give her semi-decent excuse like "difficult past/childhood", and it is very noticeable when you compare her to more reasonably-evil Wenduag who had got a lot of interesting interactions and at least some personality outside from her blatant evilness.

 

[Longes]

I appreciate the fact that Camellia is no criminal mastermind. Her whole schtick is that she has powerful patrons (first Gwerm, then you) who'll cover-up for her so she can just do her killing. Camellia's cover is transparent because she never actually needs cover - she's untouchable through corruption.

Kind of refreshing.

 

[Ghulgothas]

I came around to liking Woljif in the end. He's roughly on-par with one of the quirkier BG I companions, his scoundrel schtick is a decent counterbalance to the holy obliviousness of Seelah, Sosiel and Ember in a similar way to Regill.

And like Regill, his DPS output is hilarious. Losing him at Drezen felt like losing a limb.

 

[Anthedon]

I had a similar problem when Aru left and Seelah and Sosiel died (especially since they take all their equipment with them). That was the first time I had to respec other companions to make up the deficit.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I appreciate the fact that Camellia is no criminal mastermind. Her whole schtick is that she has powerful patrons (first Gwerm, then you) who'll cover-up for her so she can just do her killing. Camellia's cover is transparent because she never actually needs cover - she's untouchable through corruption.

Kind of refreshing.

I guess is just one of those moments where just not doing a redemption is just better because that what you expect from most game in the genre.

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Sometimes just having this crazy manic killer that only doesn't kill you because she's too much in love with your dick , quite refreshing.

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Wenduag has the possibility of becoming more gentle and even going from NE to TN if you romance her but honestly, i preffer her as this crazy bitch that hate most uplanders , so i didn't.