Delterius
Arcane
I disagree tbh. That bonus should still require the usage of metamagic. It shouldn't be free. But yes, scaling from attribute bonuses is the bare minimum.
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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]
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volklore
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Yeah what I mean is not have them scale Solely on mythic and have an actual attribute modifier there. Mythic levels come real slow, you play the most chunky acts of the game with 3-5 (4-5 with optimized route)
volklore
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Yeah persistent spell on any spells except any hazard spell, and Ode to miraculous magic doesn't work and only gives Spell res bonus, the will saving throw DC bonus does not work. Try it, it does not.
Believe in yourself you get later. Now I am not saying Azata is weak, it is strong. In fact it is a well designed path that have good things for many archetypes. The point is Lich is just flat out, so much better for casters. Who cares about auto persistent when you get about 4-5 Spell progression levels by picking lich and get insane mythic spells at that because of spellbook merging. While azata gets auto persistent which is great Lich basically gets to cast spells that are 3 spell levels higher for most of the game.
atta boy
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The funniest part about this discussion regarding spell DCs is that if you play on unfair, unless you go the expanded arsenal bug abuse route you won't be able to land any DC based spells on enemies anyhow. With a DC of 74 on illusion spells there are still enemies which can make the will saves. The main reason angel and lich are so good, aside from massively boosting your CL, is because the angel and lich specific spells are good even if the enemy makes a save. I mean look at spells like this:
Good old, "save and do the same thing to the enemy." Or bolt of Justice which deals 1d12 damage/CL to the enemies which matter and a reflex save only prevents the enemy from being proned.
Good old, "save and do the same thing to the enemy." Or bolt of Justice which deals 1d12 damage/CL to the enemies which matter and a reflex save only prevents the enemy from being proned.
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Yosharian
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Lmao and it's enemy only??? Just lol
The Augumented Defenders in Blackwater can be CdG'd with Magic Missle, if you have it.
Why use magic when you can behead them with axes while they are helpless?
The funniest part about this discussion regarding spell DCs is that if you play on unfair, unless you go the expanded arsenal bug abuse route you won't be able to land any DC based spells on enemies anyhow. With a DC of 74 on illusion spells there are still enemies which can make the will saves. The main reason angel and lich are so good, aside from massively boosting your CL, is because the angel and lich specific spells are good even if the enemy makes a save. I mean look at spells like this:
Good old, "save and do the same thing to the enemy." Or bolt of Justice which deals 1d12 damage/CL to the enemies which matter and a reflex save only prevents the enemy from being proned.
You guys do realize 1d12 is 6.5 damage in average, don't you? So at caster level 20 with save it will be around 130 fire dmg and without it 120 dire dmg + 120 holly damage.
Cryomancer
Arcane
If you merge spellbook, the minimum caster level to cast a tier 10 spell is 28. So, is AT LEAST 28d12 in a AoE with no risk of team harming. Other tier 10 spell
volklore
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Unfair stats are absolutely retarded in the lategame from what I have seen and you have to have an absolutely optimized team. Although you can land DC spells with a good saving throw debuff team. But Unfair is so stupid in wrath, which I guess is the point - Beating unfair with a non spellbook merge mythic (Gish or full caster) is probably a challenge of the hair-pulling sort.
Sharpedge
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It was the only screenshot of an angel spell I had on hand. Storm of Justice is the same thing, but a level 8 spell and you can empower+maximize it with rods. In addition, as Meredoth pointed out your CL on merged casters is >20.The funniest part about this discussion regarding spell DCs is that if you play on unfair, unless you go the expanded arsenal bug abuse route you won't be able to land any DC based spells on enemies anyhow. With a DC of 74 on illusion spells there are still enemies which can make the will saves. The main reason angel and lich are so good, aside from massively boosting your CL, is because the angel and lich specific spells are good even if the enemy makes a save. I mean look at spells like this:
Good old, "save and do the same thing to the enemy." Or bolt of Justice which deals 1d12 damage/CL to the enemies which matter and a reflex save only prevents the enemy from being proned.
You guys do realize 1d12 is 6.5 damage in average, don't you? So at caster level 20 with save it will be around 130 fire dmg and without it 120 dire dmg + 120 holly damage.
Longes
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I found this interesting
ArchAngel
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Ran into my first game stopping bug 
I fought Deskari in Act 5 and after beating him and game loads into next screen my character dies and I am met with load game screen... I done the battle again, this time more efficient and same shit happened...
I fought Deskari in Act 5 and after beating him and game loads into next screen my character dies and I am met with load game screen... I done the battle again, this time more efficient and same shit happened...
Thonius
Arcane
Game over, you're dead. End of saga.
I will not install any mod that uses third party Unity Mod Manager instead of in-game Wrath mod manager. After all, in-game mod support was a stretch goal which was achieved; use it!
Thonius
Arcane
Uh... there is ingame mode manager? Why the heck every mode then ask for unity mod manager?
Cryomancer
Arcane
I hope that the in game mod support allows you to easily re write in game stuff like NWN2.
I will gonna make a cryomancer homebrew class similar to this homebrew > https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Cryomancer_(3.5e_Class)
Not yet. IDK when it will come.
But I will only try to write mods for this game once the DLCs launches. Now I can just work for nothing.
I will gonna make a cryomancer homebrew class similar to this homebrew > https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Cryomancer_(3.5e_Class)
Not yet. IDK when it will come.
But I will only try to write mods for this game once the DLCs launches. Now I can just work for nothing.
Longes
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The unwashed masses: "waah, the game is too hard, the encounters are unfair!!!!"
Based modders: "Demons weren't threatening enough so we tuned them up."
Sharpedge
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I think this will be my next playthrough, some of those changes look really good.
Salvo
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That mod is a bloated messThe unwashed masses: "waah, the game is too hard, the encounters are unfair!!!!"
Based modders: "Demons weren't threatening enough so we tuned them up."
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