Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Sharpedge]

The funniest part about this discussion regarding spell DCs is that if you play on unfair, unless you go the expanded arsenal bug abuse route you won't be able to land any DC based spells on enemies anyhow. With a DC of 74 on illusion spells there are still enemies which can make the will saves. The main reason angel and lich are so good, aside from massively boosting your CL, is because the angel and lich specific spells are good even if the enemy makes a save. I mean look at spells like this:

Good old, "save and do the same thing to the enemy." Or bolt of Justice which deals 1d12 damage/CL to the enemies which matter and a reflex save only prevents the enemy from being proned.

 

[Yosharian]

Lmao and it's enemy only??? Just lol

 

[The_Mask]

Spoiler

The Augumented Defenders in Blackwater can be CdG'd with Magic Missle, if you have it.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Spoiler

The Augumented Defenders in Blackwater can be CdG'd with Magic Missle, if you have it.

Why use magic when you can behead them with axes while they are helpless?

 

[Riel]

The funniest part about this discussion regarding spell DCs is that if you play on unfair, unless you go the expanded arsenal bug abuse route you won't be able to land any DC based spells on enemies anyhow. With a DC of 74 on illusion spells there are still enemies which can make the will saves. The main reason angel and lich are so good, aside from massively boosting your CL, is because the angel and lich specific spells are good even if the enemy makes a save. I mean look at spells like this:

Good old, "save and do the same thing to the enemy." Or bolt of Justice which deals 1d12 damage/CL to the enemies which matter and a reflex save only prevents the enemy from being proned.

You guys do realize 1d12 is 6.5 damage in average, don't you? So at caster level 20 with save it will be around 130 fire dmg and without it 120 dire dmg + 120 holly damage.

 

[Cryomancer]

So at caster level 20 with save it will be around 130 fire dmg and without it 120 dire dmg + 120 holly damage.

If you merge spellbook, the minimum caster level to cast a tier 10 spell is 28. So, is AT LEAST 28d12 in a AoE with no risk of team harming. Other tier 10 spell

my spellbook

 

[volklore]

The funniest part about this discussion regarding spell DCs is that if you play on unfair, unless you go the expanded arsenal bug abuse route you won't be able to land any DC based spells on enemies anyhow. With a DC of 74 on illusion spells there are still enemies which can make the will saves. The main reason angel and lich are so good, aside from massively boosting your CL, is because the angel and lich specific spells are good even if the enemy makes a save. I mean look at spells like this:

Unfair stats are absolutely retarded in the lategame from what I have seen and you have to have an absolutely optimized team. Although you can land DC spells with a good saving throw debuff team. But Unfair is so stupid in wrath, which I guess is the point - Beating unfair with a non spellbook merge mythic (Gish or full caster) is probably a challenge of the hair-pulling sort.

 

[Daidre]

I did it, on Hard! Solo with my horse.

And some dare to say that achievements do not matter.

 

[Percy]

I found this interesting

 

[Sharpedge]

The funniest part about this discussion regarding spell DCs is that if you play on unfair, unless you go the expanded arsenal bug abuse route you won't be able to land any DC based spells on enemies anyhow. With a DC of 74 on illusion spells there are still enemies which can make the will saves. The main reason angel and lich are so good, aside from massively boosting your CL, is because the angel and lich specific spells are good even if the enemy makes a save. I mean look at spells like this:

Good old, "save and do the same thing to the enemy." Or bolt of Justice which deals 1d12 damage/CL to the enemies which matter and a reflex save only prevents the enemy from being proned.

You guys do realize 1d12 is 6.5 damage in average, don't you? So at caster level 20 with save it will be around 130 fire dmg and without it 120 dire dmg + 120 holly damage.

It was the only screenshot of an angel spell I had on hand. Storm of Justice is the same thing, but a level 8 spell and you can empower+maximize it with rods. In addition, as Meredoth pointed out your CL on merged casters is >20.

 

[Longes]

I found this interesting

 

[smaug]

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/190

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KNYksmY3kECRuMhFOHXMLJFF2t7-Ihz5iu6116qLyBc/edit

 

[ArchAngel]

Ran into my first game stopping bug
I fought Deskari in Act 5 and after beating him and game loads into next screen my character dies and I am met with load game screen... I done the battle again, this time more efficient and same shit happened...

 

[Thonius]

Game over, you're dead. End of saga.

 

[LannTheStupid]

I will not install any mod that uses third party Unity Mod Manager instead of in-game Wrath mod manager. After all, in-game mod support was a stretch goal which was achieved; use it!

 

[Thonius]

Uh... there is ingame mode manager? Why the heck every mode then ask for unity mod manager?

 

[Cryomancer]

I hope that the in game mod support allows you to easily re write in game stuff like NWN2.

I will gonna make a cryomancer homebrew class similar to this homebrew > https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Cryomancer_(3.5e_Class)

there is ingame mode manager?

Not yet. IDK when it will come.

But I will only try to write mods for this game once the DLCs launches. Now I can just work for nothing.

 

[Longes]

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/190

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KNYksmY3kECRuMhFOHXMLJFF2t7-Ihz5iu6116qLyBc/edit

The unwashed masses: "waah, the game is too hard, the encounters are unfair!!!!"
Based modders: "Demons weren't threatening enough so we tuned them up."

 

[Sharpedge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/190

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KNYksmY3kECRuMhFOHXMLJFF2t7-Ihz5iu6116qLyBc/edit

I think this will be my next playthrough, some of those changes look really good.

 

[Salvo]

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/190

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KNYksmY3kECRuMhFOHXMLJFF2t7-Ihz5iu6116qLyBc/edit

The unwashed masses: "waah, the game is too hard, the encounters are unfair!!!!"
Based modders: "Demons weren't threatening enough so we tuned them up."

That mod is a bloated mess

 

[Yosharian]

That mod looks interesting but it is trying to do too much. Making monsters a much bigger threat and rebalancing the bigger monsters = really good ideas. Changing the entire Pathfinder system because you dislike things like immunity spells is just going too far, you're basically creating your own game at that point and it's bound to have horrible balance problems of its own once anyone figures out how the fuck to play it.

 

[smaug]

That mod looks interesting but it is trying to do too much. Making monsters a much bigger threat and rebalancing the bigger monsters = really good ideas. Changing the entire Pathfinder system because you dislike things like immunity spells is just going too far, you're basically creating your own game at that point and it's bound to have horrible balance problems of its own once anyone figures out how the fuck to play it.

He said that they are planning to add a toggle feature system once it’s updated so you can customize which features you want.

 

[Sharpedge]

That mod looks interesting but it is trying to do too much. Making monsters a much bigger threat and rebalancing the bigger monsters = really good ideas. Changing the entire Pathfinder system because you dislike things like immunity spells is just going too far, you're basically creating your own game at that point and it's bound to have horrible balance problems of its own once anyone figures out how the fuck to play it.

It would be nice if it was split into 3 or 4 different mods so you could pick and choose the parts you want. I am very interested in the monster rebalancing, not so much the other components.

 

[Ghulgothas]

If that guy can kitbash Planetars for his mod than I've got good hopes for what comes when official tools and a workshop page go up.

 

[ArchAngel]

Act 5 Deskari battle, guy manages to disable my Lich for multiple rounds with effects that should not work on undead... not sure if that shit insta kills my Lich after he disappears. It might also be that I got a undead Balor summon in that fight, maybe he dies after that sequence and kills my lich with explosion. Also I noticed two poison effects happen just before loading screen that reduce someones Con, but my Lich should not be affected by poison and has no Con..