Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Infinitron]

I don't think anyone shared this, but it looks like Owlcat has worked on some new portraits.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/3142945680159040092

Also on GOG:
https://af.gog.com/game/pathfinder_wrath_of_the_righteous_faces_of_war?as=1649904300
https://af.gog.com/game/pathfinder_wrath_of_the_righteous_love_beyond_death?as=1649904300

 

[Fedora Master]

Still can't make red tieflings.

 

[Ghulgothas]

Deadfire and Divinity each had their little Free-LC drives, guess now it's an official trend all the cool Fantasy RPGs are doing.

I don't think anyone shared this, but it looks like Owlcat has worked on some new portraits.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/3142945680159040092

Amazing, I look forward to playing as Off-brand Regill in the expansions. Now hurry up and give me portraits of kitsune bards and alchemists already.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Deadfire and Divinity each had their little Free-LC drives, guess now it's an official trend all the cool Fantasy RPGs are doing.

Started with CD Projekt Red and Witcher 3, who bucked the trend of "I/We are Bioware under the EA".

 

[Whisper]

How to get 24 hour buffs for 1 round/lvl buffs like Haste or Displacement?

 

[Whisper]

This game has such amazing companions.

Ember is very nice.

 

[ArchAngel]

How to get 24 hour buffs for 1 round/lvl buffs like Haste or Displacement?

Get to CL 25 and use Extend Spell on them.

 

[Haplo]

I will note that apart from merging spellbooks and Spell Specialization feats, there are items that can raise your Caster Level a little for certain schools (for example Transmutation - Haste).
So 24hr Haste can be obtainable without spellbook merge - but late game and it needs high focus.

 

[Sunri]

This game has such amazing companions.

Ember and amazing companions shouldn't be in the same post.

 

[perfectslumbers]

Ember and amazing companions shouldn't be in the same post.

Ok you got me Ember is shit. She had one good piece of dialogue at least.

 

[Cryomancer]

As I've said, Ember is just a lackluster version of Aerie.

 

[LannTheStupid]

If a character is so annoying that people keep talking about her - then it is a well done (hehe) character. Judging by this, there are no bad companions in Wrath, and some NPC's are very good, too.

 

[Sunri]

If a character is so annoying that people keep talking about her - then it is a well done (hehe) character. Judging by this, there are no bad companions in Wrath, and some NPC's are very good, too.

there are no bad companions in Wrath

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hmm yea top tier npces very memorable

 

[LannTheStupid]

Sunri Having duscussions around Seelah taught me that true Americans are so racist that they can attribute an accent to a skin color. That is why changing her portrait through the visual adjustment mod is not enough for them.

If it does not make Seelah the most thought-provoking companion in the game then what does.

 

[Supermedo]

Honestly Seelah isn't bad but greybor in the other hand... he is so edgy that I get a papercut every time I read his dialogue.

 

[The_Mask]

Honestly Seelah isn't bad but greybor in the other hand... he is so edgy that I get a papercut every time I read his dialogue.

Seelah's not bad. She's worse. But, to be fair, it's a contest between them two. Fighting for the cup of the worst companion in the game.

Everyone else is fine by me, but them two are nails on a chalkboard.

 

[Cryomancer]

Seelah is IMO the worst companion of the game. Just my opinion. din't liked her.

 

[kinzadza]

Seelah is IMO the worst companion of the game. Just my opinion. din't liked her.

If you had to choose between white seelah and fixing the ice prison DC, which would it be?

 

[Cryomancer]

Seelah is IMO the worst companion of the game. Just my opinion. din't liked her.

If you had to choose between white seelah and fixing the ice prison DC, which would it be?

Ice prison. Her, I can just use a merc in her place. Ice prison DC made my Azata Cryomancer build suboptimal. Fixing Ice Prison DC should be top 1 priority.

 

[kinzadza]

I was also thinking about something...

Paizo was very adamant about explaining that necromancy in PF is ALWAYS evil, there was a discussion for years on this topic. In the end they've actually made an official errata about animate dead and similar spells, that casting one or two of these will make your character evil beyond all salvation.

Then on the other hand, you have a fucking redeemed succubus. A demon from the Abyss, and we all know that demons are ALWAYS EVIL BEYOND SALVATION, yet there's this one hot bitch who's totaly not evil, despite her very existence being based off souls of evil of mortals.

Then you have fucking Seelah. She is a paladin, some kind of lawful paragon whose powers are based solely on upholding the law and shit. And she's gay. At least if here deity had sexual freedoms or something in her portfolio I would buy it. If she's not breaking some paladin code then necromancy is most certainly not always evil.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I was also thinking about something...

Paizo was very adamant about explaining that necromancy in PF is ALWAYS evil, there was a discussion for years on this topic. In the end they've actually made an official errata about animate dead and similar spells, that casting one or two of these will make your character evil beyond all salvation.

Then on the other hand, you have a fucking redeemed succubus. A demon from the Abyss, and we all know that demons are ALWAYS EVIL BEYOND SALVATION, yet there's this one hot bitch who's totaly not evil, despite her very existence being based off souls of evil of mortals.

Then you have fucking Seelah. She is a paladin, some kind of lawful paragon whose powers are based solely on upholding the law and shit. And she's gay. At least if here deity had sexual freedoms or something in her portfolio I would buy it. If she's not breaking some paladin code then necromancy is most certainly not always evil.

So the only point of this overly long for what it is post is that gay = evil and/or chaotic?
You could save some time on your post by just submitting something like: "I'm a 5th century puritan asshole." It'd get your point across. Now shouldn't you be in church or something?

 

[kinzadza]

I was also thinking about something...

Paizo was very adamant about explaining that necromancy in PF is ALWAYS evil, there was a discussion for years on this topic. In the end they've actually made an official errata about animate dead and similar spells, that casting one or two of these will make your character evil beyond all salvation.

Then on the other hand, you have a fucking redeemed succubus. A demon from the Abyss, and we all know that demons are ALWAYS EVIL BEYOND SALVATION, yet there's this one hot bitch who's totaly not evil, despite her very existence being based off souls of evil of mortals.

Then you have fucking Seelah. She is a paladin, some kind of lawful paragon whose powers are based solely on upholding the law and shit. And she's gay. At least if here deity had sexual freedoms or something in her portfolio I would buy it. If she's not breaking some paladin code then necromancy is most certainly not always evil.

So the only point of this overly long for what it is post is that gay = evil and/or chaotic?
You could save some time on your post by just submitting something like: "I'm a 5th century puritan asshole." It'd get your point across. Now shouldn't you be in church or something?

I'm arguing that in a canon that has absolute laws in place, the very creators of that same canon blatantly insert characters who are the exact opposite of these absolute laws, and call it a day. They're shitting in their own mouth.

 

[Efe]

hes trying to point out inconsistencies in paizo logic.
he is right that seelah doesnt act like a paladin.
necromancy bit I dont know about enough to say anything
succubus part I disagree cos if angels can fall, surely demons can rise

 

[Cryomancer]

gay = evil and/or chaotic?

In 99% of societies, yes. Homosexuality was not accepted.

necromancy in PF is ALWAYS evil, t

Necromancy in PF is similar to D&D ie - divided in white/gray/black. Expelling evil spirits, heavling and so on are examples of "white necromancy". Finger of Death is "gray" and reanimating the dead is always "black". IMO necromancers needs to be either, chaotic OR evil.

"In one of the foundations for CoDzilla, wizards and sorcerers have been traditionally restricted to gray and black necromancy, whilst clerics have had access to white, gray and black, plus innate class features allowing them to manipulate/control undead." source > https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Necromancer

Animate dead brings evil into the world and corrupts the caster soul with evil energies. But "white" necromancy is not necessary evil. Casting death to the undead would't corrupt your PC.

 

[Jaedar]

She is a paladin, some kind of lawful paragon whose powers are based solely on upholding the law and shit. And she's gay.

I don't really get why being gay means you can't be a paladin. It is the case that every(?) religion in reality has rules against it, but I don't see why fictional religions have to be the same way.

Paizo was very adamant about explaining that necromancy in PF is ALWAYS evil, there was a discussion for years on this topic. In the end they've actually made an official errata about animate dead and similar spells, that casting one or two of these will make your character evil beyond all salvation.

I agree that paizo are being very racist towards necromancers.

The problem with Seelah is that she doesn't act like a paladin, she acts like a neutral good fighter. Which might have been fine, except it's a very boring ng fighter.