Turn-Based Tactics Phantom Doctrine - "tactical Cold War conspiracy thriller" by Hard West devs

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Jinn]

Does this get explained later?

Yes, don't worry about it right now.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Raghar]

3. Does anyone else think its weird that jumping and breaking through windows doesn't raise alert or even suspicion?

yeah everyone rages over it

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...by-hard-west-devs.117897/page-15#post-5751986
Kacper Szymczak talks about that in this post.

If they were fans of spy agencies and movies like Bond, they would try to simulate more. As they released it, it feels like copy of XCOM with switched background to spy agency. It even includes exploding cars, unlimited reloads, and single grenade per soldier.

 

[Raghar]

Actually I have additional Pee Wee. Playtrough as Russia agency should have VERY few black agents, and they should NEVER be used in Russia, czech republic and slovakia republic, or in Poland.
Actually I'm not sure if Russia playtrough should have ANY agents with chinese backgrounds, considering date this game seems to happen. Japanese possible, NK would be bit weird. Blacks mostly as specialists which STAY in theirs respective countries.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Teleporting agents to assault missions seems to trivialize the strategic game

I think the issue here is that assault ought to be always available, especially if interruptions and tailing missions expire. I guess Kacper Szymczak wanted to avoid loss spirals that happen when you are unable to mount assaults because no one is in range, I don't see that as a complete possibility, given that even without planning your dudes will end up distributed all over the map anyway. Oh well.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I mean, you can fail here if you ignore doomsday counters and shit, but that's it. Losing can be fun, but a loss spiral is just grounds to restart or reload in a game like this

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[xmd1997]

bringing your A-team to a tactical event is heat, which is just money

actually you dont have to bother with forged passports as your a-team is unlikely to travel anyway

Exactly, heat is trivialized by assault teleportation, and heat was supposed to be CF's version of LW-style fatigue for team cycling.

Yup. Especially with the cleaner support item, which seems to prevent your agent's from ever acquiring heat even in combat missions.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

 

[Jacob]

Is this recommended?

 

[Jacob]

So... Really recommended?

 

[ArchAngel]

So... Really recommended?

Don't bother us, we are playing Pathfinder

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Fuck, Eastern Europe might end up saving crpgs after all.

 

[razvedchiki]

guise is it playable on uber low on a a6 7310 with intergrated grafics laptop?

 

[Space Satan]

Game is extremely repetitive and unrewarding.
Completed a mission by eliminating all agents and not sounding an alarm? Nothing you get if you complete a mission with guns blazing.
Mission rewards and a joke.
MCULTRA facility is a harmful one. Capture an agent without MCULTRA built and you get interrogation and execution for free. Build MCULTRA and you have to pay for interrogation, pay for execution, and all this time danger levels will increase because you captured enemy agents.
This is bullshit.

 

[Galdred]

So... Really recommended?

FWIW I was salivating with anticipation over this game and bought it at launch, but about 1 chapter in I decided to stop and wait for mod support and more simulationism.

Aren't simulationism and determistic systems kind of antithetical?

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Space Satan]

Game with central motive of espionage=stealth and covert operations is penalizing you for being stealthy. Priceless!

 

[ERYFKRAD]

guns blazing gives double xp(or more like stealth gives half).

Eh? You get the same xp whether you take people down or shoot them.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Right but then I started a fight and got the same thing. Might be mistaken, I will have to check.

 

[Galdred]

So... Really recommended?

FWIW I was salivating with anticipation over this game and bought it at launch, but about 1 chapter in I decided to stop and wait for mod support and more simulationism.

Aren't simulationism and determistic systems kind of antithetical?

If you're ok with agents arbitrarily allowed to teleport around the world in some instances but not others, and with agents ostensibly in stealth but breaking glass and climbing through windows in full view of passersby, then sure by all means narrowly focus on the combat system.

That makes sense, but I thought you were talking about the approach, not the end results: Invisible Inc may be consistent in these areas, but it is not simulationist.

 

[Space Satan]

After some time game becomes unbearable. Same missions, negligable rewards for hard missions. Penalizing stealth, 90% of perks and skills are combat-related. And i mean heavy combat related.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

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If you say so.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/559100/announcements/detail/1689306797540657152

Patch 1.0.8 | Scare Tactics DLC | Dev Livestream
29 October - CFG_Hitch

Greetings, Agents!

Patch 1.0.8 & Scare Tactics DLC go live

We are back with another set of updates and additions to mark the upcoming Halloween season! You may find the detailed description of all the improvements and changes below. As always, we want to thank you for your ongoing support, suggestions, conspiracy theories and being a community any Developer would envy.

Get into the spirit of the season and bolster your agency with Spooky Spooks and Pumpkin Spies!

• New, Halloween-themed character customization options: new hair and eye colors, face painting and unique.. headgear
  
• For a short time Halloween-themed models and textures will appear throughout the tactical levels so keep an eye out!

Dev Livestream

Furthermore, we are delighted to invite you to our Hideout for a Dev Livestream today at 18:00 CEST. Flamingo and obj_dude will be playing Phantom Doctrine, answering your questions and having fun with you. There is also a chance that we'll convince them to use some of the props we slipped into the streaming room...

Hope to see you there!

The stream will be available on Phantom Doctrine's Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/559100/Phantom_Doctrine/
Or on Good Shepherd Entertainment's Twitch channel:
https://www.twitch.tv/goodshepherdentertainment

Improvements:

• A pack of new character customization options has been added: headgear, clothes and accessories
  
• Two brand new multiplayer maps: Unit ‘Theta’ and Safehouse
  
• The Loadout Screen now has buttons to strip non-participating Operatives of their gear, deselect the tactical team and clear the Support section, all for a more streamlined experience
  
• Added new warning pop-ups after selecting “Restart”, “Exit to main menu” or “Exit to desktop” from the pause menu
  
• Exiting from an active multiplayer game requires confirmation
  
• Selected multiplayer maps are now visualized in the lobby
  
• Unlocking of Body Engineering compounds has been tweaked and improved to facilitate access to early game unlocks later on
  
• Items obtainable early in the campaign are now more readily available in late game
  
• The “Actor” perk can now be switched in the main menu to work the way it used to post-launch (disregarding the enemy Agents field of view)
  
• The pop-up window in strategic gameplay about new secrets can now accommodate up to 4 lines of text
  
• The list of aliases used in Secret Files has been significantly expanded
  
• Technologies unlocked by campaign progress now have a ‘New’ marker visible
  
• Formatting of descriptions for Technologies in the Workshop has been improved
  
• The delay before arrival of reinforcements has been corrected at the beginning of the KGB campaign
  
• Buttons on world map pop-ups have been adjusted to match the text size for their corresponding choices
  
• Navigational buttons in the multiplayer session setup screen have been improved
  
• The ambient sound in hideout facilities has been adjusted
  
• Health bar in action camera view has been repositioned
  
• Placement of targets behind high cover during incoming fire has been improved
  
• Line of fire in full auto mode to targets behind cover on higher floors has been tweaked
  
• Improved wind sway animations for potted plants
  
• Improved movement and idle animations for female Operatives
  
• Idle animations improved for civilians standing by tables
  
• Use animation for Heartbeat Sensor
  
• Miscellaneous animation and model improvements for the character customization process
  
• Multiple minor localization tweaks and fixes

Bugfixes:

Spoiler

• Eliminated a potential blocker in chapter 6. of the campaign
  
• Solving two secret files at once no longer causes any issues
  
• Reassigning agents between jobs using key bindings will no longer causes rare issues with progression
  
• Miscelanneous fixes and stability improvement
  
• Vancouver’s icon will no longer be obscured by UI text
  
• Infirmary can now correctly be fully upgraded
  
• Buttons now display correct states on side story pop-ups in the world map
  
• Deployment zones can no longer be switched using the pause keyboard shortcut
  
• A character’s make-up will now be correctly visible on all screens
  
• The game can no longer be saved in the deployment phase
  
• Controller inputs will no longer be registered on game loading screens
  
• Improved descriptions for “Respiratory” and “Sensory” Operative stats
  
• Improved and clarified descriptions for tooltips on the Loading Screen
  
• The number of secrets to be found will now correctly decrease when an enemy
  
• Miscellaneous improvements to tooltips, labels and descriptions
  
• Clothes will now fit agents of all body types correctly
  
• Agent portraits repositioned in the location window to correct a minor issue in English and French versions
  
• Miscellaneous improvements and fixes for graphics and displays

If you encounter any issues, wish to chat about Phantom Doctrine or just poke the Devs, our Official Discord Server[discord.gg] is always the best place to visit.