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Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

chuft

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This is the reason most fantasy novels are crap compared to the works of Jack Vance or Tolkien. The authors never experienced the real world before trying to invent entire new ones.
 

Lacrymas

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Pathfinder: Wrath
Most authors never experience the "real world" because they were all middle-class at worst. It depends on what you mean by the real world tbh, did the Marquis de Sade experience "the real world" or is his trademark debauchery that? What they all have in common is either unusual intellectual pursuit/personality or some kind of very tense living conditions (like Bulgakov with The Master and Margarita or Tolkien with the war).
 
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undecaf

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
I just recently got around the game properly and I kinda like the TB mode. It's not "challenging" or difficult so far, but it feels like playing an RPG to some degree. Much better than the RTwP shit anyway.

The story doesn't seem like anything really captivating and some of the characters are just weird with their stances, dialog is sometimes aggravatingly long with nothing of interest to say, the ship management is a bit confusing and explorations is not all that great, but all in all, it seems like a passable game to waste time on. There have been worse games that've been enjoyable.

I'd give it so far a B.

And of course, now that I've rated it mid run, it gets worse by heaps... Waiting for that.
 

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
And of course, now that I've rated it mid run, it gets worse by heaps... Waiting for that.

2/3 of late game DLCs is probably best content in Deadfire.

Maybe it would help you to feel bit more optimistic.

Late game DLC's? Not "late game"?

I started with enough optimism to finish it even if it turns out mediocre, and I will, in time. But so far it is not a game that begs for attention.
 

chuft

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I keep hitting atrocious loading times. Computer is even choppy for minutes after quitting it.

I think the loading times are worse if I have Steam text chat or Discord open.
 

Atchodas

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This is well known issue with memory. Basically more areas you enter or more times you save load it fills your computers memory and does not clear it so you need to either use program to clear your PC memory every hour or two or restart your PC
 

Riddler

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Most authors never experience the "real world" because they were all middle-class at worst. It depends on what you mean by the real world tbh, did the Marquis de Sade experience "the real world" or is his trademark debauchery that? What they all have in common is either unusual intellectual pursuit/personality or some kind of very tense living conditions (like Bulgakov with The Master and Margarita or Tolkien with the war).

One is fully capable of seeing the elephant as a middle class person, even if you just go through school to become a game dev. The issue that the coddles people they have hired as writers haven't is different from whether you can be a fully realised human growing up in the middle class.

Striving for greatness and failing, experiencing tragedy or whatever happens to many. Not just very many young white middle class American girls that went to pretend college and then into a line of work where the meek nerds don't give you pushback (possibly the most coddled and entitled larger demographic in the history of earth).
 

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PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath
Also, I think most of the disappointment was with how the story developed, not with the basic premise
"My concept was good, the execution failed". If I understand correctly, then I agree with this.
 

Tenebris

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So according to Josh they also discussed the Living Lands and the Vailian Republics. What a bummer. Would've liked to see those places infinitely more than the Deadfire Archipelago.
 

Quillon

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Deadfire could have been better if they didn't see sailing as just a tool; doesn't matter if some people hate sailing/pirate setting; you have to make it that games' strength and build on it if you've chosen such a setting. Now you have a game half-assed in everything and strong in none. AC: Black Flag was 10x more pirate game than it was about AC and the game was better for it for most people.
 

eXalted

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Started playing PoE2 for the first time. This is maybe the first RPG that rolls the credits when you reply with "I don't want to be bothered with that task you are giving me" right at the beginning. Fuck that, I'm intrigued, will be playing it.
 

chuft

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Playing Deadfire now on my new PC using SSDs instead of a hard drive.

Several-minute loading screens now take 3 or 4 seconds. Totally different experience.
 

Crichton

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What the fuck? What do you think people are more likely to fork over money for? (i) TB Pillars featuring Eder, Durance and the original Pallagina, (ii) New Vegas / Wildstar Mash-up (Outer Worlds) or (iii) Honey I shrunk the game (Grounded)? Also, how much can it possibly cost to port between two engines that use the exact same art and sound formats? Sawyer needs to check into a Betty Ford clinic, STAT.
 

jf8350143

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What the fuck? What do you think people are more likely to fork over money for? (i) TB Pillars featuring Eder, Durance and the original Pallagina, (ii) New Vegas / Wildstar Mash-up (Outer Worlds) or (iii) Honey I shrunk the game (Grounded)? Also, how much can it possibly cost to port between two engines that use the exact same art and sound formats? Sawyer needs to check into a Betty Ford clinic, STAT.
The question is how many people will pay for a port, when the two games are only made 4 years apart and using the same engine. Sure Deadfire looks way better, but is it really worth to buy the first game second time just to make it look better?
 

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