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Pillars of Eternity series is better written than Pathfinder: Kingmaker
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The Jester
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Baldur's Gate was a over the top fantasy game with cheesy characters like kingmaker, it never tried to be philosophical and DEEP like POE.
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I always considered Pillars to be not an old school adventure but a politisized intellectual masturbation about the purpose of life, the atheism and whatever other sophisms modern western leftists come to be worried about.
Pathfinder is an actual adventure. It is about what player actually does in the game world. It is fucking real. And I dont want and dont need BS philosophising in my games, I want concrete actions and choices.
Pathfinder is an actual adventure. It is about what player actually does in the game world. It is fucking real. And I dont want and dont need BS philosophising in my games, I want concrete actions and choices.
Delterius
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someone who always dreamed of being a quest giver and made an industry out of it
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The philosophizing isn’t BS.
Sawyer has a true love for wisdom, he just got caught in a blind alley and a bad crowd.
My (well-earned) bias (and perhaps that of many here) against that crowd and that alley kept me from seeing it initially (plus they’ve evidently added and refined a good bit since release) but I think it will take its place among the greats and rightly so, on the level of gameplay (although there is room there for modders to help) and narrative as well. Even the character building is better than it looks at first glance.
This thread reads like a bunch of post-adolescents swinging their dicks around about who’s more cynical than thou. Hemingway ended up blowing his own brains out. That’s a blind alley of its own.
If it’s so juvenile and shallow why are you all spending your time playing it and talking about it? All y’all need to read Tolkien on Fairy Stories stat.
https://coolcalvary.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/on-fairy-stories1.pdf
Sawyer has a true love for wisdom, he just got caught in a blind alley and a bad crowd.
My (well-earned) bias (and perhaps that of many here) against that crowd and that alley kept me from seeing it initially (plus they’ve evidently added and refined a good bit since release) but I think it will take its place among the greats and rightly so, on the level of gameplay (although there is room there for modders to help) and narrative as well. Even the character building is better than it looks at first glance.
This thread reads like a bunch of post-adolescents swinging their dicks around about who’s more cynical than thou. Hemingway ended up blowing his own brains out. That’s a blind alley of its own.
If it’s so juvenile and shallow why are you all spending your time playing it and talking about it? All y’all need to read Tolkien on Fairy Stories stat.
https://coolcalvary.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/on-fairy-stories1.pdf
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P:K’s take on the causes of and the destruction wrought by the cruelty of (post-)modern woman is up there with Ibsen and Strindberg.
Murk
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huh, OP is already self-ejected. Bravo.
Anyway....
EOTHAS, THE ENGWITHAN ENTITY SEEKS ADRA. YOU, THE WATCHER OF CAED NUA ALONG WITH EDER MUST CHASE HIM ACROSS EORA.
Vowels, vowels everywhere.
I never played P:Kingmaker, so maybe the thread title is correct (or not), but god damn reading POE is a bother. This from a guy who loves Planescape: Torment's walls of text.
Anyway....
EOTHAS, THE ENGWITHAN ENTITY SEEKS ADRA. YOU, THE WATCHER OF CAED NUA ALONG WITH EDER MUST CHASE HIM ACROSS EORA.
Vowels, vowels everywhere.
I never played P:Kingmaker, so maybe the thread title is correct (or not), but god damn reading POE is a bother. This from a guy who loves Planescape: Torment's walls of text.
MarxistPlato
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Yeah, it wasn't that - maybe i wrote something entirely different than i wanted to capture; it's just more serious in aspect of atmosphere to me and getting into some gruesome quest didn't put me off.
Baldur's Gate was a over the top fantasy game with cheesy characters like kingmaker, it never tried to be philosophical and DEEP like POE.
PS. Just look at Baldur's Gate 2 intro with khalid getting killed.
Simcity AR4710 - Feudal Edition
You play as a sovereign lord in this game. I liked it. It would have felt weird having some NPC viceroy handle everything. Also, if we had been an agent of the actual ruler, like in Varnhold's Lot, my motivations and character would have been different. The PC was in the driver's seat, which was a nice change.
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