Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[Kaldurenik]

Going to replay it in preparation for PoE2 having a hard time deciding what type of wizard im going to make.

 

[FreeKaner]

So is white march worth the time? Got a craving for some IE combat, so it's either that or heavily modded BGT

It's the good part of the game.

 

[you know what time it is]

I sure hope WM encounter and monster design is superior, one can stomach only so much retarded shades and swarming animals.

On POTD all sorts of ghosts are downright broken, I forgot how I hated those fuckers back when I was going through the game for the first time.

 

[Ulfhednar]

I sure hope WM encounter and monster design is superior, one can stomach only so much retarded shades and swarming animals.

On POTD all sorts of ghosts are downright broken, I forgot how I hated those fuckers back when I was going through the game for the first time.

Git gud.

 

[you know what time it is]

I sure hope WM encounter and monster design is superior, one can stomach only so much retarded shades and swarming animals.

On POTD all sorts of ghosts are downright broken, I forgot how I hated those fuckers back when I was going through the game for the first time.

Git gud.

I'm not getting killed by them you elitist dipshit, it just takes years to take them down as low level party, since you have fuck all to increase accuracy/decrease deflect.

 

[Prime Junta]

I'm not getting killed by them you elitist dipshit, it just takes years to take them down as low level party, since you have fuck all to increase accuracy/decrease deflect.

You're attacking the wrong defence.

 

[you know what time it is]

I'm not getting killed by them you elitist dipshit, it just takes years to take them down as low level party, since you have fuck all to increase accuracy/decrease deflect.

You're attacking the wrong defence.

https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Shade

Enlighten me then

 

[Prime Junta]

https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Shade

Enlighten me then

Deflection: 61
Reflex: 63
Fortitude: 49
Will: 52

Now, which defences do you think you ought to be attacking first...?

 

[FreeKaner]

Specifically, burn damage that targets fortitude wrecks them quickly. Wizard has few spells for that.

 

[Parabalus]

Clearing the Eothas temple is a real pain if you do it with only Eder, Aloth, Durance and at lvl 3, which is likely what you'll have normally. Best to come back later.

Specifically, burn damage that targets fortitude wrecks them quickly. Wizard has few spells for that.

What besides combusting wounds? That IIRC ignores DR though so it's good. Others are all Reflex.

 

[you know what time it is]

I know it's a PoE thread and all, but ya'll are a bit dense.

I complain about shades being annoying, specifically - how long it takes to bring them down (it's neither hard or involving, just long)... meaning I don't like wasting time on meaningless bullshit.

NOW, since it's a low level party and I have only one wizard and it's POTD, I have both limited supplies of spells and camping consumables (and there are like 5 rooms with shades on one floor), besides most if not all of those low level spells are aoe and If my front liners are going down because of it i'll be forced to waste them supplies sooner, which means more running around and even more time wasted on retarded design decisions (and long ass loading times, even on ssd). And no I can't kite them properly to make some room for my boys to start AoEing the shit out of everything, since shades and shadows have shadowstep and get on your backline in a few seconds of the fight, unless you pull them with your tank and stand in a chokepoint so their shitty AI bugs out and they just go in 1 by 1, but then again, I can't really start AoEing my frontline as I mentioned above, so we are back to square one.

Shades suck a fat dick, that's all.

 

[Ulfhednar]

https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Combusting_Wounds
+
https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Chill_Fog

Both attack fortitude and chill fog will trigger combusting wounds damage when it pings. Blindness from chill fog will lower their deflection by 20 so they will melee easier.

Yeah, the Eothas temple is annoying at low level - no reason to do it first thing though, just pick up Kana at Caed Nua and head back once Aloth has a few more spell casts to throw around.

 

[Roguey]

Yeah, if it's the Eothas temple, the intent in the second level is that it's supposed to be "too difficult" encouraging you to come back later.

Additionally, since it's right there in town, backtracking to the inn to rest is something they figured people would do.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Keep in mind that the xp gained from combat negligible, and you don't need to clear out the whole second level in order to solve the quest.

 

[you know what time it is]

Yeah, if it's the Eothas temple, the intent in the second level is that it's supposed to be "too difficult" encouraging you to come back later.

Additionally, since it's right there in town, backtracking to the inn to rest is something they figured people would do.

i'll be forced to waste them supplies sooner, which means more running around and even more time wasted on retarded design decisions (and long ass loading times, even on ssd)

It's like i'm talking to myself.

Whatever, that shit is over and done with, just had a fight with necro lady in roedrick's hold, the whole thing was twice as short, compared to a random shade pack. Seems silly is all.

Btw I might be misremembering something, but i'm pretty sure the Hold was a mini-quest hub of sorts, with that hollowborn sub-plot, now though the only option is to wreck it, or so it would seem, either guards in the main gate, or zombies in sewers (you can also climb on the west side, but i'd imagine it will end up with fighting anyway). Also what happens if you opt-out of killing the necro chick and go after the priest instead?

 

[Roguey]

The loading times should hardly be an issue at all at the beginning of the game, unless your save folder is packed with files.

 

[you know what time it is]

They are long enough to be annoying anyway, especially since you need to go through like 4 (or 8 if you include going back) of them to get to the inn.

 

[AwesomeButton]

There are two or three quests/tasks you can receive in Raedric's hold. One of them is Raedric's counteroffer.

 

[Prime Junta]

Btw I might be misremembering something, but i'm pretty sure the Hold was a mini-quest hub of sorts, with that hollowborn sub-plot, now though the only option is to wreck it, or so it would seem, either guards in the main gate, or zombies in sewers (you can also climb on the west side, but i'd imagine it will end up with fighting anyway). Also what happens if you opt-out of killing the necro chick and go after the priest instead?

You can still deal with Raedric's Hold with minimal fighting. Don't know if you can do it with no fighting at all; possibly if you've pumped the right skills.

 

[you know what time it is]

Ended up fighting the guy, damn that was brutal. Took me like 15 tries and even then I had to resort to chokepoint tactics and sacrificing one of the boys (I think it's downright impossible otherwise, unless you have massive level advantage that is). Barely had enough damage, thankfully got a few lucky crits on key targets, would probably die again otherwise.

 

[Morkar Left]

Ended up fighting the guy, damn that was brutal. Took me like 15 tries and even then I had to resort to chokepoint tactics and sacrificing one of the boys (I think it's downright impossible otherwise, unless you have massive level advantage that is). Barely had enough damage, thankfully got a few lucky crits on key targets, would probably die again otherwise.

Yes, it's one of the few good fights.

 

[Parabalus]

Yeah, if it's the Eothas temple, the intent in the second level is that it's supposed to be "too difficult" encouraging you to come back later.

Additionally, since it's right there in town, backtracking to the inn to rest is something they figured people would do.

Why do you think that?

The second especially seems degenrate, by JES standards. As in, he figured that wouldn't happen when he designed it, but was proven wrong after release, hence Deadfire rest system. Pretty sure JES was optimistic about the impact of PoE1 system on rest spammers, wasn't he?

 

[Roguey]

Why do you think that?

The second especially seems degenrate, by JES standards. As in, he figured that wouldn't happen when he designed it, but was proven wrong after release, hence Deadfire rest system. Pretty sure JES was optimistic about the impact of PoE1 system on rest spammers, wasn't he?

It's degenerate if it's after every fight. It's not if you go several fights, retreat back to the surface once your resources are drained, then go back in to mop up the rest.

 

[Ninjerk]

You can make those fan of flames scrolls for the ghosts (I think there is a level requirement but its fairly low), and there may even be one that is lootable in the big marsh map with the trolls. 1.0 Triple crown runs needed to use them for a couple of ghost pulls.

 

[Starwars]

Reaplaying this in preparation of Deadfire. Just finished main quest for White March part 2. There are some really neat little touches here and there, like how you give the person left behind to strike the crystal with Abydon's Hammer the Diving Helmet, an item you get through one of those Stronghold quests, in order to make the companion survive the ordeal.

Love those little things.