Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[Deleted member 7219]

Holding off my playthrough until next week's patch. An Obsidian dev on the forums said they were looking into performance issues and long load times. I really hope these can be fixed because playing this game at 30 FPS and less will be terrible, especially as it ran at 60 on launch.

 

[Ulrox]

sounds liek a grate gaem mebbe i shud buy it

You should, the codex needs you überedgelord number 1 - only you can make the butthurt flow enough to satisfy the codex...

The butthurt must flow.

 

[commie]

... a little magic trick to make everybody satisfied. Which as I said sums up the whole design of POE to begin with.

You mean the 'trick' that got them an 89% Metacritic score? I think they are happy with it, just as I think CDPR supposedly 'selling out' have over 6 million reasons to think that not following Codex wishes actually worked out for them despite making a 'turd'. Funny that would Codex wishes actually be taken up by developers then we'd have no RPG's at all apart from a the odd one or 10 man effort released every 5+ years. Strange as it may seem, they are not running a charity for the 100 people that are on the Codex for the RPG's(the other thousands are here for GD) but want to make money.

About the only thing I'd want all game devs to do is make the games esily moddable so those that want to make them more hardcore, change rulesets, decrease hand holding etc. should be able to do so. That way everyone would be happy; the casual and the asperger freak.

sounds liek a grate gaem mebbe i shud buy it

Please do. Sawyer will spend your Zloty wisely...

I have beaten it twice

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Yeah but since like all Romanians you pirated it, the stats don't show on steam.

 

[DosBuster]

Man, I hate it when DLCs take place during the game, it always feels off to me.

 

[Jaedar]

When we lose the ability to figure out the difference between the two, like you evidently did.

You ever hear of an expansion sold in a season pass?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Please do. Sawyer will spend your Zloty wisely...

good point, i'll pirate it instead

 

[Rake]

I hope part 2 will implement autoresolve for trash fights.

So for all fights?

 

[likaq]

Overall its a decent addition to already great game

You mean the 'trick' that got them an 89% Metacritic score

oblivion have 94%. You should praise oblivion too.

 

[Florian Gheorghe]

You mean the 'trick' that got them an 89% Metacritic score? I think they are happy with it, just as I think CDPR supposedly 'selling out' have over 6 million reasons to think that not following Codex wishes actually worked out for them despite making a 'turd'. Funny that would Codex wishes actually be taken up by developers then we'd have no RPG's at all apart from a the odd one or 10 man effort released every 5+ years. Strange as it may seem, they are not running a charity for the 100 people that are on the Codex for the RPG's(the other thousands are here for GD) but want to make money.

About the only thing I'd want all game devs to do is make the games esily moddable so those that want to make them more hardcore, change rulesets, decrease hand holding etc. should be able to do so. That way everyone would be happy; the casual and the asperger freak.



Please do. Sawyer will spend your Zloty wisely...



Yeah but since like all Romanians you pirated it, the stats don't show on steam.

What are you talking about? I bought it along with WM. Look up my achievements.

 

[Rake]

Wasn't foregone conclusion that Obsidian games will be banal shit boring after MCA and Ziest have left?

This.

 

[commie]

This.

Weren't Obsidian games boring with MCA there? I don't recall too much love for DS3 or NWN2 OC or SoZ, and many of the others have as many detractors as adherents. It's all too easy on the Codex to blame 'evil' Feargus for chaining up the 'genius' of MCA, yet Avellone wasn't some shit kicking intern. He was one of the top guys there so if Obsidian's games were shitty or buggy or banal, that's as much a fault of Chris as anyone else, and even more so.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Weren't Obsidian games boring with MCA there? I don't recall too much love for DS3 or NWN2 OC or SoZ, and many of the others have as many detractors as adherents. It's all too easy on the Codex to blame 'evil' Feargus for chaining up the 'genius' of MCA, yet Avellone wasn't some shit kicking intern. He was one of the top guys there so if Obsidian's games were shitty or buggy or banal, that's as much a fault of Chris as anyone else, and even more so.

DS3 had narrative merits. It just had a bigger focus on combat.

I agree about SoZ though. What the fuck were Obsidian doing following up MotB with that?

Also, Obsidian started work on both action MMOs while Avellone was still narrative director of the whole studio.

Nothing wrong with the narrative in PoE though.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I agree about SoZ though. What the fuck were Obsidian doing following up MotB with that?

the key to understanding poe fans

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

You ever hear of an expansion sold in a season pass?

You ever heard what an expansion is? The content describes if its an expansion. Whie March Part 1 is a 20h worth of content with self-contained story. That means its an expansion. It doesn't fucking matter if they sell it of lemonade stand.

 

[likaq]

You mean the 'trick' that got them an 94% Metacritic score? I think they are happy with it, just as I think Bethesda supposedly 'selling out' have over 20 million reasons to think that not following Codex wishes actually worked out for them despite making a 'turd'. Funny that would Codex wishes actually be taken up by developers then we'd have no RPG's at all apart from a the odd one or 10 man effort released every 5+ years. Strange as it may seem, they are not running a charity for the 100 people that are on the Codex for the RPG's(the other thousands are here for GD) but want to make money.

^Skyrim version.

You mean the 'trick' that got them an 94% Metacritic score? I think they are happy with it, just as I think Bethesda supposedly 'selling out' have over 3,5 million reasons to think that not following Codex wishes actually worked out for them despite making a 'turd'. Funny that would Codex wishes actually be taken up by developers then we'd have no RPG's at all apart from a the odd one or 10 man effort released every 5+ years. Strange as it may seem, they are not running a charity for the 100 people that are on the Codex for the RPG's(the other thousands are here for GD) but want to make money.

^Oblivion version.

 

[Roguey]

I agree about SoZ though. What the fuck were Obsidian doing following up MotB with that?

They had a skeleton crew and knew that a lower-budget MotB-style game wouldn't have been received well.

For some reason they wasted a bunch of resources on a terrible overland map anyway.

 

[Sensuki]

Anyway, it's also being loyal to IE roots since Tales of the Sword Coast took the same amount of time to release.

The White March Part 1 is the equivalent of releasing Tale of the Sword Coast: The Werewolf Island DLC in a much buggier state than TotSC was released. Not the equivalent of a full TotSC.

 

[Infinitron]

A poster on the Obsidian forums pointed me to this German article that mentions March 2016 as a release date for Part 2: http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/pilla...f_eternity_the_white_march,52695,3234852.html

Can somebody who sprachen Deutsch tell me if is this BS speculation or something they actually heard?

The White March Part 1 is the equivalent of releasing Tale of the Sword Coast: The Werewolf Island DLC in a much buggier state than TotSC was released. Not the equivalent of a full TotSC.

That analogy would work if it was just the one area, but it has Cragholdt too

 

[Sensuki]

Ulgoth's Beard and Werewolf Island are a fair few areas because of the amount of interiors in Ulgoth's and Werewolf Island. Wouldn't be surprised if the map count was kinda similar.

 

[Ulrox]

All this talk about tales of the sword coast is making me want to replay bg again.

 

[Rake]

Weren't Obsidian games boring with MCA there? I don't recall too much love for DS3 or NWN2 OC or SoZ, and many of the others have as many detractors as adherents. It's all too easy on the Codex to blame 'evil' Feargus for chaining up the 'genius' of MCA, yet Avellone wasn't some shit kicking intern. He was one of the top guys there so if Obsidian's games were shitty or buggy or banal, that's as much a fault of Chris as anyone else, and even more so.

I don't exactly disagree. But in my opinion in the last five years Obsidian has declined writing wise, while their gameplay is just as shitty as before. The only thing they improved is the overall buginess of their games. So instead of getting good storyfaggy games with shitty gameplay, we get banal boring games with boring gameplay, just more polished. Not a good exchange in my opinion.

 

[Ulrox]

I don't exactly disagree. But in my opinion in the last five years Obsidian has declined writing wise, while their gameplay is just as shitty as before. The only thing they improved is the overall buginess of their games. So instead of getting good storyfaggy games with shitty gameplay, we get banal boring games with boring gameplay, just more polished. Not a good exchange in my opinion.

Honestly - considering PoE's very retarded gameplay, that tries to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it seems to me that Obsidian's direction has changed. Obsidian no longer should be considered to be a 'good' company by codex, something many codexers, including infinitron has a hard time accepting. They got destroyed by the fallout new vegas fiasko - feargus cannot handle losing more employees, and that is understandable enough, but it also means that games try to optain as much money and appeal to as many casuals as possible, obsidian's spirit has 'changed' for the worse - and they're never going to do a mask of the betrayer or something akin to that. Our hopes and dreams should focus on other developers now to bring the incline, because I do not believe Obsidian are able to do it with the mindset that they have.

 

[Blackguard]

What FNV fiasco? It was voted 8th best RPG of all times here, and completely deserved it. The game was also a huge financial sucess (though Obsidian didn't see much of that money).

 

[Trodat]

I backed for this and I still have no desire to even try it.

 

[Ulrox]

What FNV fiasco? It was voted 8th best RPG of all times here, and completely deserved it. The game was also a huge financial sucess (though Obsidian didn't see much of that money).

They lost tons of money because they didnt hit the metacritic - and feargus had to fire tons of employees. This I believe has lead to Obsidian losing it's spirit. You are right that from bethesda's point of view, F:NV is great business, but for obsidian it is tragic and painful.