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Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

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This shit is not backward compatible with past PS4 games prior to anything released this year? Is this a fucking joke? It is the same exact console with slightly better hardware.

It is. NEO can run every PS4 game. And the original PS4 can run every NEO game.
For now. Until enough of the developers bitch at Sony about costs and threaten to stop making games for PS4 altogether.

Yeah, I expect all of the Sony promises about still supporting PS4 and retaining parity are going to get weaker and weaker as time goes on. Expect a "rerelease" rather than a "remaster" which also comes with a DLC that improves visual quality (technically still runnable on PS4 but drops you to 5 FPS). Or some shit like that.
 
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Huh I wonder how long before they start making PS4s with a modular design resulting in different "builds" so to speak while charging extra cash for each part. If that ever happens you're better off building a PC(of course doing it at this point in time is still a better option).
 

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We are all "better off" building a PC. The only reason to buy a console is to play games that aren't available on PC.
 
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Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut I'm very into cock and ball torture
Depends on what you like or want or expect from games.

Decent reasons for me which may not be for you:
NieR 2, Persona 5, TLG

Also 460$ is worth paying for a good game, if you are a dumb fag like me. Hell, I dropped 1000$+ for a genuine Dreamcast and Saturn back when they were kind of hard to get so I could play Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga.
 

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Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut I'm very into cock and ball torture
True. Also I know for a fact game consoles are taxed like mad in Brazil because of some weird import tariffs. My heart goes out to you huehues.
 
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Lyric Suite

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If only we could convince the Japanese to port their stuff on PC more often. But as i've been told, the Japanese don't use computers and don't even know what Windows is.... :M
 

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Also 460$ is worth paying for a good game, if you are a dumb fag like me. Hell, I dropped 1000$+ for a genuine Dreamcast and Saturn back when they were kind of hard to get so I could play Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga.

Quite a reasonable decision, actually.
 

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PS4 is essentially a $400 (or something) Bloodborne machine. Otherwise there isn't a single reason to buy it.
Mine is also a Driveclub machine.

Bloodeborne will probably be ported to the PC as well eventually just like Daku Souru, complete with terribru controrsu.
 

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Mine is also a Driveclub machine.

Bloodeborne will probably be ported to the PC as well eventually just like Daku Souru, complete with terribru controrsu.
It's published by Sony, just like Demon's Souls.
 

Cowboy Moment

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Honestly, I'd like to play Bloodborne, and can easily afford a PS4, but I hate spending money frivolously, and $400 on a box that I'll only use for one game (maybe a few other ones which don't get PC ports, but that's a big maybe) just seems really dumb. I'm also opposed to the idea of exclusives in principle, and buying a console for one game would be rewarding that bullshit. Will probably wait until the box is ~$100 used like I did with PS3 and 360. Would that I had some consolefag friends, I could borrow the thing for a few weeks, but alas, they all belong to the master race.
 

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I tried playing Demon Soul at a friend who has a PS3 but i had to recoil in horror at the peasant 720p resolution. I could technically get a PS3 on the cheap but i'm waiting to see if the game get's a remaster for the PS4.
 

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I tried playing Demon Soul at a friend who has a PS3 but i had to recoil in horror at the peasant 720p resolution. I could technically get a PS3 on the cheap but i'm waiting to see if the game get's a remaster for the PS4.
You have bigger problem than that.

Like - you're playing From's games. From should be called From Asshole since that's the correct description of quality of games they release.
 
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http://kotaku.com/sources-smaller-xbox-one-coming-this-year-more-powerf-1778634446

Microsoft is preparing at least two new Xbox models for release in the next two years, sources tell Kotaku. Later this year we’ll see a cheaper, smaller Xbox One, and next year Microsoft will release a more powerful version of their premiere console.

The 2017 Xbox, which is codenamed Scorpio, will have a more powerful GPU, according to three people familiar with this model, speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to speak about Microsoft’s plans. We hear that it will also be technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift and that Microsoft is pursuing a partnership with Oculus. As for 2016, sources have told us there’s at least a more compact version coming by year’s end. One source believed it will include a larger 2TB hard drive, double the capacity of the most spacious current model. We’re expecting Microsoft to announce the more compact machine at E3 next month. (Kotaku’s Jason Schreier and Kotaku UK’s Keza MacDonald both independently corroborated this information.)

When asked about these plans, Microsoft and Oculus representatives did not provide comment.


The two consoles form part of a wider Microsoft strategy, codenamed “Project Helix” according to one source, to converge Xbox and Windows. For a while now Microsoft has been clear that they want their two prestige brands to work together, as they’ve announced big new exclusives like Halo Wars 2 and Sea of Thieves for both Xbox One and PC. Developer sources have told us that Microsoft’s new mandate is to release future games–including the flagship Halo series–on both platforms. The recently-cancelled Fable Legends, which was playable across Windows 10 and Xbox One, was one of the first games to implement this strategy.

In addition, people familiar with Microsoft’s plans have told Keza that the company is moving toward an iterative approach for their consoles, not unlike Apple. Sources say that instead of one hardware revision every five years or so, as has been the case with previous console cycles, Microsoft plans to move towards an incremental model, with more frequent hardware releases and games that are both forwards and backwards compatible across both Windows 10 and different Xbox models.

In March, Xbox boss Phil Spencer dropped some hints about this new approach, telling journalists that he’d like to see consoles take a PC-like evolution. “I look at the ecosystem that a console sits in and I think that it should have the capability of more iteration on hardware capability,” he said. A few days later, he elaborated. “What I’m saying is as hardware innovations happen we want to be able to embrace those in the console space, and make those available and maybe not have to wait seven or eight years for things to happen.”

Of course, Microsoft is no stranger to changing their high-level hardware plans, as we saw in 2013, when the company reversed course on an always-online Xbox One. With Microsoft, anything can change at any time. We hear that the folks at Xbox have yet to finalize the specs for 2017’s Scorpio, although they briefed third-party publishers on the device during a secret event last week, according to a source.

Development sources raised the concern that although the Scorpio model will be capable of supporting 4K resolution thanks to its GPU upgrade, as of right now there is no planned upgrade to the console’s I/O transfer speed–the speed at which the console can transfer assets from a disc or hard drive to its memory. This could mean long loading times for games specifically designed to support 4K, due to their larger assets.

Two months ago, Kotaku broke the news that Sony is preparing an upgraded version of their PS4, which is code-named Neo and will also have a more powerful GPU. Although Sony has not yet confirmed the existence of that device, other news outlets have come forth to corroborate details. We’ll likely hear more from both first parties next month at their respective E3 press conferences. Microsoft’s event is Monday, June 13 at 12:30pm Eastern. Sony’s is that night at 9pm Eastern.


UPDATE (4:41pm) - In an article this afternoon, Polygon corroborated many of the details we reported as well as one that we didn’t: Microsoft is aiming to get Scorpio running at 6 teraflops, which we’ve also heard from one source. (5-6 is what we heard.) Sources have insisted that Scorpio’s exact specs have not yet been finalized, though

First - all of Xbone exclusives went to PC, now there'll be now model... PS4 at least have a few decent games but XO... Microsoft XBONED ppl again.
 

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Actually, the more I think about it the more it makes sense for the xbox one.

The Xbox One is getting closer to the PC and one thing every PC user understands is the constant need to upgrade to keep up to date with the latest games. This is that same principle applied to the xbone.
 

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