People News Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk Leave Bioware (and Gaming Industry)

[Infinitron]

I said this on CDS the other day: Bioware's mistake was that they didn't try to monetize the NWN engine somehow, perhaps by using it to make a Guild Wars-style small scale MMO. Instead they went the high budget cinematic console game route, which basically forced them into EA's deathly embrace.

 

[UnknownBro]

Finally some INCLINE!
Until EA adquires Obsidian 6 month before Project Eternity release date...

 

[The Great Deceiver]

Achievement unlocked : Schadenfreude.

 

[Lagole Gon]

It's a pretty sad and bland ending for a company with amazing beginnings. Three two bros following they geeky dreams...

Oh well, that's life. At least they have $$$.

 

[l3loodAngel]

Cheer up guys. They left a worthy successor to continue their work!
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[Black]

Another formerly great company (yes, Bioware was great -- they made the fucking Infinity Engine, that alone qualifies) dying the long death under EA's thumb. It'll probably be nice for the Dr.s not to have to spout that rancid EA marketing bullshit anymore.

What's so great about IE?

 

[Excidium]

Another formerly great company (yes, Bioware was great -- they made the fucking Infinity Engine, that alone qualifies) dying the long death under EA's thumb. It'll probably be nice for the Dr.s not to have to spout that rancid EA marketing bullshit anymore.

What's so great about IE?

Obsidian is basing their new game on it, don't you know?

 

[Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd]

What I wish to do -

 

[godsend1989]

Another formerly great company (yes, Bioware was great -- they made the fucking Infinity Engine, that alone qualifies) dying the long death under EA's thumb. It'll probably be nice for the Dr.s not to have to spout that rancid EA marketing bullshit anymore.

What's so great about IE?

Obsidian is basing their new game on it, don't you know?

source ?

 

[Excidium]

No, Infinite Engine.

 

[Turisas]

No, Infinite Engine.

 

[Ion Prothon II]

It's a pretty sad and bland ending for a company with amazing beginnings. Three two bros following they geeky dreams...

Oh well, that's life. At least they have $$$.

Sad? They were thrown out from a sinking ship in a lifeboat full of money. That's far better than they deserved. Bland? Would you rather see them getting killed by Mossad in a false car accident, and bioware buildings burned? Yeah, me too.

 

[Infinitron]

Cheer up guys. They left a worthy successor to continue their work!
http://www.gatheryourparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/FlynnTweet.png

 

[Humanity has risen!]

What did these guys ever do apart from being figureheads?

 

[Infinitron]

inb4 Jon Van Caneghem as new Bioware CEO

 

[Orchestra of Wolves]

I had thought they were already dead. Hmm.

 

[CrustyBot]

Tis' but a confirmation of what we've known all along.

Still, there is some potential for hilarious butthurt on the BSN.

CrustyBot

Activate copy-paste protocol. You know what to do.

r00fles.

Ray says he decided to retire back in April?
Yep, those repeated Dev comments that their departures from the company were all completely false definitely holds up now! It looks like those 'rumours' stemmed from some truths.

False.


LOCKDOWN!

Oh, wait...

I can assure you that leaving a company that you founded and cherished for 17 years is anything but easy...and the fact that they are both leaving at the same time is more than coincidece...the blog entries are just premade shielding device hiding their true feelings...but to be honest ...who wouldn't have loose their interest, love and enthusiasm for games being pushed/forced to do compromises that are not compatible with the initial incentive you entered this business...of course it fades away quickly

...too soon?

Biodrone is a learning animal.

Without these guys i would have never had the experience i have had. A toast to the greatest video game mudafudgers in the swole galaxy!!!!! Salute you guys!

It would be so awesome if they'll join Obsidian

Or not. Maybe Cleve was onto something.

If this turns into a bashing thread, it will be locked.

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[tobial]

Good luck saving the world, Ray! ...

Beer sounds nice, tho.

 

[LeStryfe79]

They were put out to pasture...

 

[Mortmal]

Guys, YOU would have sold your own company if EA paid you 100+million dollars for it.

The reason these two 'tards are quitting is because they no longer have the incentive to actually work. They have made more money than most ppl ever will, possibly hundreds of millions of dollars when you take into account the sales of all Bioware games pre EA takeover, and then the large sum EA paid them for buying them.

Anyhow, why isn't anyone asking the pertinent question here:

What about Dgaider? Will we see a David Gaydar Kickstarter soon?

No, not everyone would sold, remember gabe was offered 1.000.000.000 $ for steam by EA. But that also maybe because it worth more

I dont see why you see that as incline, its just officializing bioware is dead, not a news about us getting fantastic new games, in fact they will still release titles under bioware name but probably much worse than usual. I had some enjoyment from kotor, neverwinter(countless hours with fantastic mods), mass effect, dragon age, not as much as bG2 planescape, TOE or arcanum but still they were fun video games if not hardcore rpgs .Even jade empire, an action game was good for what it is.
Now you will only see abominations on the level of ultima forever , not incline, no sir...

 

[fuzz]

Charity vs beer, which is better and why?

Either way, we'll see them on kickstarter in a five years or so.

They should merge. Charity for beer.

 

[Rivmusique]

Abandon ship!

Bioware was great -- they made the fucking Infinity Engine

Yay?

 

[suejak]

These guys founded and co-designed Baldur's Gate. They deserve respect.

 

[l3loodAngel]

Victims of EA

No dude, that's the irony. Acquisition costs of Bioware + 500$ million on spectacular failure of Tortanic. It's Bio and their quality games, that killed EA not the other way around.

 

[Black]

These guys founded and co-designed Baldur's Gate. They deserve respect.

Oh look, another moron who thinks BG is some kind of holy cow.