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Editorial RPG Codex Editorial: Games Journalism Scandal

Oriebam

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"getting jizz on her face" is an euphemism for what? also does anyone have sauce on the podcasts
 

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This thread (article + comments) is exactly what drew me to the Codex in the first place. Sharp and insightful analysis, but also a community that (mostly) doesn't take itself too seriously and doesn't have their heads up their arses.

What? Have you read a Lyric Suite post yet?
 

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To be honest, funny as I find that twitter exchange I just posted, the focus on Wainwright or any other single games journlolist only serves as a distraction from the real problem, the fact that games journalism in its current form is institutionally flawed.

Of course, I doubt that's going to change any time soon, so perhaps it's best to just keep on posting screencaps of particularly amusing examples.
 

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What the hell is this?!

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/at...u-should-know-about-me-wait-wha--120519.phtml

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1:12 AM on 02.04.2009 // atheistium

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edit: I fail at constructing posts!
 

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To be honest, funny as I find that twitter exchange I just posted, the focus on Wainwright or any other single games journlolist only serves as a distraction from the real problem, the fact that games journalism in its current form is institutionally flawed.
True, while we point out how the system is corrupt, the few articles that gmae journalists wrote, like the PA Report one, all focus on Wainright... they are clearly building up a massive sacrificial lamb, so when she get's fired in the end of the week they all pat thenselves in the back for the glorious victory of pure & unbiased journalism...
 

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accent, probably

audience might think she's speaking in the wrong language

wait, how is her voice relevant?
 

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To be honest, funny as I find that twitter exchange I just posted, the focus on Wainwright or any other single games journlolist only serves as a distraction from the real problem, the fact that games journalism in its current form is institutionally flawed.
True, while we point out how the system is corrupt, the few articles that gmae journalists wrote, like the PA Report one, all focus on Wainright... they are clearly building up a massive sacrificial lamb, so when she get's fired in the end of the week they all pat thenselves in the back for the glorious victory of pure & unbiased journalism...

The POINT of Wainright was that her and all the other slimeball bought off charlatans PR people backing her (lol journalists), when we now know the truth of how this started. Now others can look at all these shit sites in a new light, and now it has entered the public consciousness. This is a good thing.
 

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I'm going to go on a rant about a few things.

1) If so many people complain about the formatting, there is a problem with formatting. The editors' personal opinion as to the non-existence of a formatting problem notwithstanding.

2) The web has a couple of specific rules about huge text dumps / run-on sentences. The first being to avoid them if possible. If you can't avoid them, then space things out. Use paragraphs liberally.

3) Look at the size of a page in your book. Look at the size of your (likely) 16:9 or 16:10 monitor. See the difference in size, font size, reading distance?

4) Look at the chunk of text you read in a book/newspaper, in a nice, compact column. It's not done like that accidentally. It's done like that because that's what makes it easy to read. Fluid layouts (the default here, unless you use my Fixed Width forum style) are inherently flawed because you get the text stretched across the entire width of the monitor which is much harder and/or inconvenient to read especially on widescreen ones, which are the default today.

I've been trying to get DU to switch the site and forum layouts to fixed width for exactly this reason some time ago. It's not by accident that most sites out there have fixed width layouts.

5) Brevity is the key with online articles. Most online readers do not want and do not have the patience/time to read very long articles, especially if they're not broken up into nice chunks and equipped with a few images to break down the GIANTWALLOFTEXT impression. If you at all care about your readers, you won't want them to consider reading your articles an effort. Or provoke the tl;dr reflex.

6) When in doubt, refer to rule #1.

Or maybe I'm just trolling.

:troll:

(And yes, the article's good. It'd be even better if it was easier to read. And this thread is so bloody long I'm very likely very late with this comment, but meh.)
 

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I'm going to go on a rant about a few things.
I don't see how reading text on a monitor is different from reading a book; reading text is just reading text.

You can start with the "I don't see" part of that sentence and go from there.
I read a lot of books, both academic and fiction, on the PC because I only have them in digital format. Please tell me how that makes it different from reading them in paper format.
 

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I'm going to go on a rant about a few things.
I don't see how reading text on a monitor is different from reading a book; reading text is just reading text.

You can start with the "I don't see" part of that sentence and go from there.
I read a lot of books, both academic and fiction, on the PC because I only have them in digital format. Please tell me how that makes it different from reading them in paper format.
It is the difference between a CRPG and a tabletop game.
 

Marsal

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I'm going to go on a rant about a few things.
I don't see how reading text on a monitor is different from reading a book; reading text is just reading text.

You can start with the "I don't see" part of that sentence and go from there.
I read a lot of books, both academic and fiction, on the PC because I only have them in digital format. Please tell me how that makes it different from reading them in paper format.
It is the difference between a CRPG and a tabletop game.
Well, the analogy is between two different mediums, digital and physical. Are digital books better or worse than physical books? For gaming, a similar thing would be to ask if physical boxes are better or worse than digital copies, not if PC gaming is better or worse than tablet gaming. Choosing between two kinds of games - PC or tablet-based - can be likened to choosing between two kinds of books - say, ‘serious’ fiction or ‘light’ fiction - not between two kinds of medium. That's why your analogy doesn't work.

With gaming, there are also such considerations as PC interface vs. tablet interface and the way they influence what kinds of games are available on the PC and what on tablets, etc. However, if I read a book on mathematics or a piece of literary criticism, what changes if I read it in pdf compared to reading it as a physical copy? I often do both, and often switch between the two.
 

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I'm going to go on a rant about a few things.
I don't see how reading text on a monitor is different from reading a book; reading text is just reading text.

You can start with the "I don't see" part of that sentence and go from there.
I read a lot of books, both academic and fiction, on the PC because I only have them in digital format. Please tell me how that makes it different from reading them in paper format.
It is the difference between a CRPG and a tabletop game.
Well, the analogy is between two different mediums, digital and physical. Are digital books better or worse than physical books? For gaming, a similar thing would be to ask if physical boxes are better or worse than digital copies, not if PC gaming is better or worse than tablet gaming. Choosing between two kinds of games - PC or tablet-based - can be likened to choosing between two kinds of books - say, ‘serious’ fiction or ‘light’ fiction - not between two kinds of medium. That's why your analogy doesn't work.

With gaming, there are also such considerations as PC interface vs. tablet interface and the way they influence what kinds of games are available on the PC and what on tablets, etc. However, if I read a book on mathematics or a piece of literary criticism, what changes if I read it in pdf compared to reading it as a physical copy? I often do both, and often switch between the two.
I was just injecting some humor into the argument. We usually agree on things, but this is not an argument you can win... and even if it was it wouldn't be worth doing.
 

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The Wainright stalking is getting a bit creepy, but then... It's not like she's done anything to redeem herself, and vivisecting her career just might be an interesting walkthrough of how and why it is so much of the gaming media is little more than advertising.

As for the editorial: well done, man. Write moar!

I don't see how reading text on a monitor is different from reading a book; reading text is just reading text.

yes reading text is just reading text congratulations captain obvious but both the composition of the text and the medium by which you receive it can impact legibility for example a complete lack of punctuation and formatting can make it both a bit more difficult and a whole hell of a lot more aggravating to try to read something indeed this particular bit of text would be pretty fucking annoying to read for most people and most people wouldn't be able to read it at their usual reading speed even so all this legibility bullshit is just elitist wanking imo
 

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