Community RPG Codex GOTY 2023: Results & Cool Graphs

[Viata]

Larian will ever acknowledge Codex's existence again

Oh but they will. When shit happens, they'll need a new kickstarter funding and Codex will be remembered. And obviously, Codex will do another fund campaign to help them.

 

[Lord of Riva]

Personally I'd drop all 1/5 vote, because 2/5 is the honest dislike vote value. Then see what happens.

Personally I'd drop all 5/5 vote, because 4/5 is the honest like vote value. Then see what happens.

This isn't true though? Sure 5/5 is inflated, but it *usually* isn't inflated deliberately like 1/5 is.

I object to this idea that 5/5 is an "inflated" score or should only represent generation-defining miracle games. What the fuck is the purpose of a point scale where a full 20% of the spread is unachievable? A 5/5 to me just means "a very good game, one of my favorites in recent memory" which is not an insurmountable bar to clear. BG3 didn't, since Act 3 was terrible among other demerits, but several other games did.

You guys understood that saying we should not include 5/5 was a Joke yes? Reason being if you just get rid of it the 4 becomes the newest highest score.

 

[luj1]

double

 

[Alienman]

Does really mean the perfect game? Isn't it a rating for something you truly enjoyed? At 4 you really enjoyed the game, but at 5 you could marry it and have its children (somehow). However, it isn't the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[luj1]

Tactics is still the new RPG

Always have been. Small-scale tactics are embedded in RPG format (see signature).

Worst of all, BG3 could have been good with two simple changes.

Firstly, take away 184 hours of cutscenes and cinematic dialogue. Secondly, use a different ruleset which isn't dumbed down.

 

[Tyranicon]

Larian will ever acknowledge Codex's existence again

Oh but they will. When shit happens, they'll need a new kickstarter funding and Codex will be remembered. And obviously, Codex will do another fund campaign to help them.

... If Larian ever has to resort to kickstarter funding again after BG3, that's 10/10 bad business.

Larian is enjoying what I would say is the Witcher 3 effect: riding high after a popular game with a new and massive fanbase, lauded as an example of the ideal dev that consoomers desire.

If they fuck it up, it's entirely on them.

 

[ga♥]

Tactics is still the new RPG

Always have been. Small-scale tactics are embedded in RPG format (see signature).

Worst of all, BG3 could have been good with two simple changes.

Firstly, take away 184 hours of cutscenes and cinematic dialogue. Secondly, use a different ruleset which isn't dumbed down.

You are missing a third... fourth... at least to ninth.
So, a complete different game instead of the turd we got.

 

[Axioms]

Personally I'd drop all 1/5 vote, because 2/5 is the honest dislike vote value. Then see what happens.

Personally I'd drop all 5/5 vote, because 4/5 is the honest like vote value. Then see what happens.

This isn't true though? Sure 5/5 is inflated, but it *usually* isn't inflated deliberately like 1/5 is.

I object to this idea that 5/5 is an "inflated" score or should only represent generation-defining miracle games. What the fuck is the purpose of a point scale where a full 20% of the spread is unachievable? A 5/5 to me just means "a very good game, one of my favorites in recent memory" which is not an insurmountable bar to clear. BG3 didn't, since Act 3 was terrible among other demerits, but several other games did.

You guys understood that saying we should not include 5/5 was a Joke yes? Reason being if you just get rid of it the 4 becomes the newest highest score.

Dropping 1/5 wasn't a joke, though. Because the math for troll voting with 2/5 is that it is a waste of time.

 

[Viata]

Larian will ever acknowledge Codex's existence again

Oh but they will. When shit happens, they'll need a new kickstarter funding and Codex will be remembered. And obviously, Codex will do another fund campaign to help them.

... If Larian ever has to resort to kickstarter funding again after BG3, that's 10/10 bad business.

Larian is enjoying what I would say is the Witcher 3 effect: riding high after a popular game with a new and massive fanbase, lauded as an example of the ideal dev that consoomers desire.

If they fuck it up, it's entirely on them.

Larian's actual fanbase is the kind of people that will get offended just by Larian tweeting about Codex GotY. A single mistake is enough to fuck up things.

 

[Tyranicon]

Larian's actual fanbase is the kind of people that will get offended just by Larian tweeting about Codex GotY. A single mistake is enough to fuck up things.

I doubt it unless Swen pulls a microsoft Tay or becomes dangerously based in some way.

It takes more than a single mistake to bury a developer, especially one that has become beloved. Take a look at CP2077.

 

[Sentinel]

RPG CODEX'S 2023 GOTYs:
#1 - Jagged Alliance 3

bayzed

 

[Hellraiser]

This isn't true though? Sure 5/5 is inflated, but it *usually* isn't inflated deliberately like 1/5 is.

No, you *think* 1/5 is "usually" inflated more often than 5/5, this is purely subjective speculation and is impossible to prove, hence my symmetric mockery of the original suggestion about dropping all 1/5 votes. Just like you *think* X/5 is a good rating for game Y, this is all purely subjective and an opinion, none of it can be proven to be true or false due to the very nature of being merely opinions or individual judgements. You're free to think one is unjustified, retarded, absurd, actually kind of true or the product of a severely disturbed schizoid mind, but at the end of the day deciding which opinions or ratings are "correct" and discarding those that aren't would be a purely arbitrary judgement.

Nobody forced or could ensure 400+ users would follow a standardized operating procedure on how to rate the games they played, guaranteeing in any way that the result would be some actual objective truth, rather than just a measure of "what people think". It is at best a piece of trivia (or source of forum drama and entertainment) with the utility value slightly above that of a horoscope, maybe.

And most importantly there is no objective basis and process upon which votes could be discarded ("user X didn't follow the procedure, into the trash it goes"), such a decision is always going to be an arbitrary whim. Besides that if supreme autism and bureacracy was achieved in this area allowing true objectivity (true objectivity has never been tried!), all the votes would look fucking the same, because they would be guided by the exact same logic, criteria and process.

If you measure opinions numerically you have accept that they will be made using different standards of rationale or logic and thus be entirely impossible to compare, and that biases, fanboyism, shilling or inaccurate ratings are equally likely to skew the result in both direction. And all flaws in the process and methodology are equally likely to occur and distort the result in both directions, so in the end this all should cancel each other out and indeed in the end the popular opinion and whatever faction happens to be largest in the studied population should win. Yes, specific distribution will differ, just like you can roll 1 three times in a row on a d20, but this is just a fact of life you have to accept when dealing with these kinds of "studies" (r00fles). And if anyone expected this to be anything more than a gague on what the community thinks about games this year, expecting it to be even in a very minor way some kind of study uncovering a universal truth on what is superior, then just lol, lmao even.

I already mentioned here in this thread, that I *think* a system where each user would just rank a limited number of titles in order from BESTEST to "least liked" (top 5 games of the year or whatever) would be more fair because it would at least fix the "a 5 according to bro A's criteria/logic is a 3 according to bro B's criteria/logic" issue, if you really want solutions to this for next year. But even then someone will find some flaw in that system, someone will not like the result and someone will complain "X or Y would fix this issue that triggered me". This is just the inherent nature of choosing a methodology to try to measure opinions, there is no tool that works fully accurately here.

 

[lycanwarrior]

It's interesting to see Konjad defending Codex's honor on RPG Watch, and people there just not getting it.

Post link pliz

https://rpgwatch.com/forum/threads/rpg-codex-goty-2023-results.57851/

Of course faggot Mortmal got bullied here, so he went to RPGWatch to cry how awful and toxic and worthless Codex is

https://rpgwatch.com/forum/threads/rpg-codex-goty-2023-results.57851/

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I imagine the bigotry central would appreciate a game based on racist, sexist humor with very little to offer as an actual RPG like JA3 and ridicule themselves by putting the best RPG of at least the last decade below it, probably because girls can have dicks.

Must be difficult to live in the wrong century.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

This schizo provided me with some entertainment, what the acutal fuck is this? Is the entirety of that forum like this? There will be no Caves of Lore slander on my watch.

Also, why is this faggot Mortmal still doing here?

 

[Raghar]

Just out of curiosity how would the ranking look like when all 1 would be 2, and all 5 would be 4?

 

[Lord of Riva]

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You are putting in so much effort just because of their butthurt.

I'm pretty sure, if the Vote was in their favor they would claim the same. In other words they are merely larping that this is unfair.

 

[Lord of Riva]

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This schizo provided me with some entertainment, what the acutal fuck is this? Is the entirety of that forum like this? There will be no Caves of Lore slander on my watch.

Also, why is this faggot Mortmal still doing here?

Yeah the retardation really looks strong there. From my perspective the GOTY poll helps me find some hidden gem's I may have overlooked. CoL was on wishlist but now I will certainly give it a try soon.

 

[Hellraiser]

You are putting in so much effort just because of their butthurt.

Inside of me there are two wolves, one is autistic and wants to effort post from time to time, the other one likes space.

 

[Axioms]

I don't even have a serious opinion on best RPG of the year. I rejected JA3 for being too scripted for instance, also I hate contemporary settings, and I didn't play Colony Ship either. I don't care for any game in the top 10. Maybe Caves Of Lore a little bit, in a theoretical sense, but I didn't buy/play it.

From the top 40 games the only ones I spent much time thinking about were Conquest Of Eo in 12th and maybe Six Ages: Lights Go Out in a distant second. Then Caves Of Lore a distant 3rd from that. I even said in the thread that Baldur's Gate 3 was an amazing game for the genre it is in, although that genre is trash.

I'm not seeking out some method to validate my opinions, I just think that for this kind of poll generally a 20 point scale plus a "favorite" pick would achieve the best results. Note I said best results, which might not even be good results, depending on various factors. Does anyone outside the Codex really care what the Codex thinks? But there are questions that would/could/should use a similar survey methodology that significant numbers of people do care about. The methodological arguments are separate from the content of the survey.

 

[Abu Antar]

Damn, I tried almost 40 games on that list. My GOTY would be Jagged Alliance 3 and/or Octopath Traveler 2,

 

[Mortmal]

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This schizo provided me with some entertainment, what the acutal fuck is this? Is the entirety of that forum like this? There will be no Caves of Lore slander on my watch.

Also, why is this faggot Mortmal still doing here?

It's worth noting that not only did my single-handed revival of the watch with a few words prove effective, but it also caused significant butthurt in your ranks. It's a venture that promises ample profit

 

[Stavrophore]

At least poll results cant be called antisemitic, as our forum jew Zed Duke of Banville rated bg3 1/5. He will be spared in upcoming holocaust 2.0.

 

[Alienman]

You are putting in so much effort just because of their butthurt.

Inside of me there are two wolves, one is autistic and wants to effort post from time to time, the other one likes space.

The wolf on Codex street.

 

[Abu Antar]

Btw, I didn't want to say anything, but I was sad not to see any of the Like of Dragon games being in the poll.

Still, great work, Felipe.

 

[Egosphere]

RPG CODEX'S 2023 GOTYs:
#1 - Jagged Alliance 3

bayzed

Feels good to know the subhumans are squirming