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Community RPG Codex Invades Steam
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That's the thing, it was just average. Quickly forgotten, nothing special, didn't excel in anything. It's the only game I disagree being on the list that I have played (well ok, and Eschalon 1).
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To paraphrase something I said in the staff forums:
Looking at our review, it doesn't seem that Eschalon was received as shovelware: http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=170
Of course, 2008 was a very different time. (which, however, can also be a factor - ie, respecting the few oldschool RPGs to be released in a time of decline)
Is it ok to recommend every run-of-the-mill RPG that comes along? Cmon, let's keep the list at least somewhat inclined.
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No, just the turn-based indies of the Decline Era. The Geneforges, the Avernums, the Eschalons.
You'll notice that humdrum RTwP stuff like, say, Drakensang isn't on the list (even though more than one person has told me that The River of Time was pretty decent). Neither is The Witcher series, not to mention Dragon Age.
Dragon Age was complained about, so it was removed. I haven't noticed anyone saying Witchers should be added, haven't played Drakensang so can't say about that one. There's now been a few comments saying Banner Saga wasn't that good (here and Steam comments), I don't really see a problem removing it.
Geneforges are well liked here, and I think Avernums (which I like) too have much more going on to them than say, Eschalon. Even the review you linked seemed to indicate it was pretty average.
Geneforges are well liked here, and I think Avernums (which I like) too have much more going on to them than say, Eschalon. Even the review you linked seemed to indicate it was pretty average.
Dark Souls II gets mentioned, but Dragon Age: Origins is left out? WTF man? Seriously, WTF?
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On the other hand, it also got a rather large amount of "likes" on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/curator/6866630-RPG-Codex-(Official)/
Like I said, I do admit that the fact that it was never reviewed properly has been a problem with establishing Codex Consensus on Banner Saga and I hope we can rectify that. One must also take into account that the game is actually incomplete and will probably be expanded in the future.
Take it up with the knee-jerk Bioware haters. I've decided to acquiesce to that tendency because it's part of what makes the Codex.
I hear ya bro. Apparantly DA:O is the butthurt-catalyst 'round here. I honestly don't fault Infinitron for holding it back when half of the Codex hates it so much. I fault that half, though.
As much as I do not like Dragon Age: Origins personally, I think it should be on the list, if only because it was #33 on our Top 70.
Eschalon. Really? I actually played that (not often I can say that about new-ish RPGs) and remember it being very mediocre and getting bored after a few hours (even Fallout 3 and Skyrim held my attention longer). Why exactly was it added to recommendations in the first place?
No opinion on Banner Saga, as I have not played it yet, despite being a backer. But it sure looks nice.
Eschalon. Really? I actually played that (not often I can say that about new-ish RPGs) and remember it being very mediocre and getting bored after a few hours (even Fallout 3 and Skyrim held my attention longer). Why exactly was it added to recommendations in the first place?
No opinion on Banner Saga, as I have not played it yet, despite being a backer. But it sure looks nice.
But it sure looks nice.
It is. There's very little bad to say about it. It's just not a grand and fantastic game like e.g. KoDP, which I guess is why some people dislike it.
Also:
Steam said:
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None of those abominations belong on the list.
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^As you can see, managing this list isn't a task for the faint of heart. 
Agreed. :D^As you can see, managing this list isn't a task for the faint of heart.
I may have been too harsh on Eschalon in my post, since we are also recommending everything Spiderweb ever released (except their most recent games, I think?), which is more or less on par.
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Nobody would complain about Eschalon if it were a blobber. People just see iso perspective and get the wrong idea about the game.
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I think Witcher has more of a right to be on there than Eschalon. It does some interesting things with choice & consequence that are pretty unique to it and is a major Codex talking point. Eschalon is just an inoffensive budget game that no one really cares about. Not saying it's garbage, but... weird choices, to say the least.
Wait, The Witcher is not on the list?
Not saying it is some kind of masterpiece, but definitely better than Eschalon (I would also rate it above DA:O personally).
EDIT: I think even Codex review of The Witcher is more favorable than the one of Eschalon, so...
Not saying it is some kind of masterpiece, but definitely better than Eschalon (I would also rate it above DA:O personally).
EDIT: I think even Codex review of The Witcher is more favorable than the one of Eschalon, so...
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If the Codex cannot be dissuaded from trying to become a popular thing for regular humans (until the day of reckoning where someone puts a bunch of old posts on twitter and DU gets drones firing hellfire missiles at his house) I'd rather the Steam curation be really inclusive, up to and including shit like Dragon Age and Dark Souls (2), as long as we are also putting stuff like Vogel and M&MX on there. The rationale is that people that hate those games are going to put some shit I hate on there that they don't anyway so fuck you too.
The Witcher is a good game and should be on the list.
Eschalon should be on the list, too, because it is an indie game with some cool oldschool mechanics.
Indie games should get a bonus, because often these are one-man efforts.
Eschalon should be on the list, too, because it is an indie game with some cool oldschool mechanics.
Indie games should get a bonus, because often these are one-man efforts.
Baron Dupek
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What if that one man is mad man? Like Pierre and Eschalon cretor (based on time after BookIII release)?
Nah, I support only good ones...
Nah, I support only good ones...
If people want an inclusive list, I have a suggestion for you
I disagree. Games should be included depending on how good they are.
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