Editorial RPG Codex Retrospective: Roguey fights for social justice in Josh Sawyer's Icewind Dale II

[evdk]

Gets no points because the climax of Alien is sexist and stupid as hell.

Honestly, do tell.

 

[wergle]

I think Roguey has successfully driven away all the feminists from this website. Nice job!

 

[Roguey]

Gets no points because the climax of Alien is sexist and stupid as hell.

Honestly, do tell.

The hard-as-nails Ripley who didn't give all that much of a damn about her murdered crew members risks her life for her cat. The way that self-destruct sequence is set-up (as well as their not being enough room in the escape pods when that notion is brought up) is an engineering disaster. Then there's the underwear scene. I can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily wear such an uncomfortable-looking garment as that.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

The thread so far : Roguey backstabs Codexey for X10 modified critical damage.

 

[Monty]

Then there's the underwear scene. I can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily wear such an uncomfortable-looking garment as that.

Exactly. I always said it should have been a thong.

 

[evdk]

I think Roguey has successfully driven away all the feminists from this website. Nice job!

Because the burning need to battle windmills would keep them here to battle with the overwhelming contingent of local sexists, right? This site does not have any mainstream importance and nobody would really consider undertaking the useless task of proselytizing the feminist creed here. Roguey is just being Roguey.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Then there's the underwear scene. I can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily wear such an uncomfortable-looking garment as that.

You're no girl.

 

[evdk]

] The way that self-destruct sequence is set-up (as well as their not being enough room in the escape pods when that notion is brought up) is an engineering disaster.

Oh right, that was massively dumb, although I am not sure that it was a self destruct measure per se (why would they even have it), but just a way to make the reactor go critical, in which case the unwieldiness may be excusable. Maybe.
RE life boat capacity: W-Y are cost cutting bastards and it's not like the events of the movie show that they care one whit about the safety of their hired crews. It's probably some kind of psychological aid more that anything, given that it did not even have a proper signaling device and Ripley spent 60 years adrift.

 

[tuluse]

The ship did have a self-destruct. Mother disables it, and Ripley has to find another way. I can't remember if the thing she did was like a manual override or like you said just forcing the reactor into critical.

Also, these panties don't seem uncomfortable to me.

Spoiler

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

I can't remember if the thing she did was like a manual override

It is.

Never saw it had a French translation. Le hurray !

 

[evdk]

Well, I ask again: why the hell do they even have that installed on the ship?

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

It's a valid criticism but if you can't rise above it, better kiss all SF movies bye-bye, because it's always there. Self-destruct made sense in stuff like "The Invaders" TV show, or the "Predator" movie, since they are supposed to leave no trace if they fail, but apart from that...

 

[crawlkill]

totally ruined the movie that the set designers did a minimalist job on the escape capsule guise~

"go back for the pet" is always dumb, but it's a trope. it's not like only female characters do it.

didn't she spend 60 years adrift because she was moving at sub-relativistic speeds through interstellar space? even 60 years would be a pretty snug solar neighborhood, even if her lil pod could reach Warp Startreksforfags.

and yes movie self-destruct systems are always designed retardedly. cheap tension-building.

but Alien being a nailbiter horror movie and not hard scifi really doesn't diminish...anything. does it?

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

"go back for the pet" is always dumb

You're no dog.

 

[crawlkill]

"go back for the pet" is always dumb

You're no dog.

Dogmeat would just have followed Ripley directly through the forcefield

 

[evdk]

Burke in Aliens says that the module "drifted right through the core systems." Whatever that means, it seems to imply she went right through major inhabited areas.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Dogmeat would just have followed Ripley directly through the forcefield

Dogmeat would have critically knocked-down the shit out of the grown alien, or made an "alien on a stick" out of the chestbuster. But Jones is all that Ripley had, and then Newt. Damn, it's true that it's sexist.

 

[crawlkill]

Burke in Aliens says that the module "drifted right through the core systems." Whatever that means, it seems to imply she went right through major inhabited areas.

well that's obviously horrible throwaway pseudoscience dialogue. that would mean she was moving at way, way past light speed and for some reason not transmitting...ugh. unless Alien(s) take place nearer the center of the galaxy and--no, do not attempt to rationalize film scripts, that way madness lies

Vazdru already said it, though. movies are almost never even sorta-hard scifi. now you mention it, kind of a shame, 'cause it COULDA been a lot harder with just a little more attention to detail. but I don't think that's the point.

unrelated: who else thought the only good scenes in Prometheus were the ones when the android was on his own mimicking Laurence of Arabia

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

There were no good scenes in "Prometheus", you're probably mistaken.

 

[crawlkill]

it was only like 90 seconds of film okay c'mon it was probably an accident

 

[evdk]

There were no good scenes in "Prometheus", you're probably mistaken.

That may be, but out of all the bad that scene was the least dreadful.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

the least dreadful.

Deal.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

To subtly go back to ID2 with a just as subtle joke, I'll make a Ripley character in my next replay. Which should start tomorrow, provided I finally get some pot.

 

[crawlkill]

I've still never made it much further than the wilderness maze, myself, in spite of inspiring character portraits of Warcraft elves getting assfucked and many, many attempts. (or the ice fortress? the ice fortress is before the wilderness maze, right?) I always just get bored. is it really worth getting through? IE combat with good dialogue but no compelling personal narrative and no-personality zombie companions just doesn't seem to do it for me. ...my attempt to improve this by installing the buggy-ass eunuch gay romance mod companion? not so fucking satisfying.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

is it really worth getting through?

If you've been that far and got only boredom as a reward ? No, probably not.

no-personality zombie companions just doesn't seem to do it for me. ...my attempt to improve this by installing the buggy-ass eunuch gay romance mod companion? not so fucking satisfying.

That's when either Larping skills, or Mondblut's "I don't need voiced stat-sheets" detachment come in handy.