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Vapourware Scam Citizen - Only people with too much money can become StarCitizens! WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

Dexter

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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...edge-canceled-over-vaporware-allegations.aspx

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/star-citizen/news/star_citizen,48820,3233596.html
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Star-...gefragt-Crowdfunding-Beitrag-zurueck-1164760/



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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/5304637/#Comment_5304637
Hey guys!

I believe I can clarify this. We refunded Mr. Smart’s package because he was using Star Citizen as a platform to gain attention as part of a campaign to promote his ‘Line of Defense’ space game. Our ToS (or in this case, the Kickstarter ToS) allows us to refund troubled users who we would rather not have interacting with the community. The process lets us entirely disable their accounts, preventing them from playing the finished game. Think of it as the video game equivalent of a ‘we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone’ sign in a restaurant. We’ve used this ability a limited number of times in the past, always with the aim of improving the community (until today, the most famous example being our old friend jcrg99/Manzes/PonyMillar/he of many other alts.)

I do now want to stress that that is not to say you can get your money back by simply being as obnoxious as possible; we’re also able to ban accounts from the forums without requiring a refund. But sometimes we take a look at a user and decide that they’re so toxic or their intentions are so sinister that we simply don’t want them associated with Star Citizen.

As for refund requests working the other way: per the ToS, we’re not required to offer them. We do try and work with backers who are facing hardships, but the hard truth is that the money is by necessity being spent to develop a game rather than sitting unused somewhere (that being the significant difference with Steam; those refunds are taken out of their games’ profits rather than their development budgets.)
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Everyone that wants a refund knows what they have to do now.
 
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Direwolf

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Fucking hell. People are in so much denial about this. Derek Smart is a complete tosser, but he is right that Star Citizen is a scam.
 
MrContinuity

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You know what would really be hilarious? If RSI went insolvent and claimed all the people who pledged enough to have their name in the credits were liable as stakeholders in the game.
 
Makabb

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Just nuke this thread, i cannot watch or read anything more with Star citizen, it will never be released.
 
Angthoron

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Ah, Derek Smart. The guy that would rival CyberP for the amount of garnered accolades if he were posting here.

I remember getting one of his games to run on my PC for 5 minutes once. Harrowing experience. Good to know he's still in business.
 
Crispy

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Derek Smart is a Supertroll. He's become so good at being who he is that 9,999 times out of 10,000 he's going to infuriate and pound into submission anyone he gets into an argument with over the internet, no matter the subject. He's nigh-indefeatable.

But, just like many super beings before him, he has a weakness. If you ever really want to piss Derek off, just mention his college degree.

And don't forget to post the :troll: along with it.
 

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Derek Smart is almost on the same level as Cleve. Sole difference being that Derek has actually released several of his botched abortions.

That said, fuck Star Citizen for taking Privateer into 2015 and then turning it into a mmo. Then again, ain't that fitting?
 
Spectacle

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Crispy said:
Derek Smart is a Supertroll. He's become so good at being who he is that 9,999 times out of 10,000 he's going to infuriate and pound into submission anyone he gets into an argument with over the internet, no matter the subject. He's nigh-indefeatable.

But, just like many super beings before him, he has a weakness. If you ever really want to piss Derek off, just mention his college degree.
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Alternatively, bring up the coke machine incident.
 

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I still have a copy of Battlecruiser Millennium. I think I played 20 mins before I gave up.
 
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