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[Kingston]

Smart's thoughts on the 3.0 "schedule".

http://www.dereksmart.com/forum/index.php?topic=9.msg1373#msg1373

Aside from the fact that sources are still telling me that it's all smoke and mirrors - as always - this 3.0 schedule, amid much fanfare, is the same build that Chris went up on stage in Oct 2016 and LIED about when he said the patch was in progress, and being released on|before Dec 19th, 2016. I wrote about that extensively in my Shattered Dreams blog from Oct 2016; amid several smaller subsequent posts (1, 2) since that time.

Now, not only is this 3.0 schedule basically 2.7 in disguise, but it's also missing several (e.g. mining (LOL!! see the official statement), planets) components they've been promising and touting for years now. And it also pushes the project well into 2018. If they even survive that long - and have the money - it's safe to say that it's a 2020 game. But none of that matters because not only is what they've now promised never seeing the light of day, even if you added leeway for delays, you'd end up well into Q4/2017. And assuming they complete it, well, you'd be looking at barely 25% (need I mention that 3.0 now only contains 3 moons, no planets - and not even 1% of the promised 100 star systems?) of the game they promised. Not including SQ42.

Notice how every task in the schedule appears to have started in April? Yeah, me too.

With CIG it has been more about marketing and showmanship, than about building a "game". And that trend continues here, in that they even made a video - about a watered down schedule that's now almost a year late. The same thing they did back when they made a video - ahead of telling backers that the SQ42 demo promised for CitizenCon 2016, had been scrapped "at the last minute".

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This doesn't need a long blog write-up, and it certainly doesn't warrant my releasing the blog I just finished last week. I was hoping that CIG would have at least made public something MAJOR that they have yet to disclose (LOL!!) to the backers; and which I can't divulge without compromising an on-going investigation, sources - and rendering the whole blog moot.

As I said in yesterday's Tweet storm, the project is FUBAR, and CIG already have a plan in motion to scuttle it and bail in the coming months. Any money that backers give them now, is going to severance (those lucky enough to get it) pay, and into the pockets of the creators (the family and friends program).

My opinion that it's all evolved into a major scam, remains the same. And as I said back in 2015, it's akin to one long con that has played out in the two years that I've been writing about this doomed project after they made it personal. As I wrote in my recent Money Laundromat blog, most of the primaries involved, have had legal troubles over various past projects in which investor money resulted in a total loss. The same is precisely what is now playing out with this Star Citizen project.

With the legacy forums closing (they said it's being archived, but as has happened before, they will eventually disappear - but we've got it all archived for posterity and evidence) today, as they move the discussion over to a more restrictive, and horrid Discord clone, the project wind down is in full progress.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Anyone have a tried-and-tested refund method they would recommend? I pledged to the original KS.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Smart's thoughts on the 3.0 "schedule".

http://www.dereksmart.com/forum/index.php?topic=9.msg1373#msg1373

Aside from the fact that sources are still telling me that it's all smoke and mirrors - as always - this 3.0 schedule, amid much fanfare, is the same build that Chris went up on stage in Oct 2016 and LIED about when he said the patch was in progress, and being released on|before Dec 19th, 2016. I wrote about that extensively in my Shattered Dreams blog from Oct 2016; amid several smaller subsequent posts (1, 2) since that time.

Now, not only is this 3.0 schedule basically 2.7 in disguise, but it's also missing several (e.g. mining (LOL!! see the official statement), planets) components they've been promising and touting for years now. And it also pushes the project well into 2018. If they even survive that long - and have the money - it's safe to say that it's a 2020 game. But none of that matters because not only is what they've now promised never seeing the light of day, even if you added leeway for delays, you'd end up well into Q4/2017. And assuming they complete it, well, you'd be looking at barely 25% (need I mention that 3.0 now only contains 3 moons, no planets - and not even 1% of the promised 100 star systems?) of the game they promised. Not including SQ42.

Notice how every task in the schedule appears to have started in April? Yeah, me too.

With CIG it has been more about marketing and showmanship, than about building a "game". And that trend continues here, in that they even made a video - about a watered down schedule that's now almost a year late. The same thing they did back when they made a video - ahead of telling backers that the SQ42 demo promised for CitizenCon 2016, had been scrapped "at the last minute".

...

This doesn't need a long blog write-up, and it certainly doesn't warrant my releasing the blog I just finished last week. I was hoping that CIG would have at least made public something MAJOR that they have yet to disclose (LOL!!) to the backers; and which I can't divulge without compromising an on-going investigation, sources - and rendering the whole blog moot.

As I said in yesterday's Tweet storm, the project is FUBAR, and CIG already have a plan in motion to scuttle it and bail in the coming months. Any money that backers give them now, is going to severance (those lucky enough to get it) pay, and into the pockets of the creators (the family and friends program).

My opinion that it's all evolved into a major scam, remains the same. And as I said back in 2015, it's akin to one long con that has played out in the two years that I've been writing about this doomed project after they made it personal. As I wrote in my recent Money Laundromat blog, most of the primaries involved, have had legal troubles over various past projects in which investor money resulted in a total loss. The same is precisely what is now playing out with this Star Citizen project.

With the legacy forums closing (they said it's being archived, but as has happened before, they will eventually disappear - but we've got it all archived for posterity and evidence) today, as they move the discussion over to a more restrictive, and horrid Discord clone, the project wind down is in full progress.

The guy is obsessive, but he is fundamentally right. SC is a gigantic clusterfuck, only doubt i have if its a criminal operation or not.

 

[Kingston]

Anyone have a tried-and-tested refund method they would recommend? I pledged to the original KS.

So many people have requested refunds it has its own subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Anyone have a tried-and-tested refund method they would recommend? I pledged to the original KS.

So many people have requested refunds it has its own subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/

Thanks. $35 isn't much but it'll contribute a little bit towards the £45 I just spent on a bottle of Japanese whisky.

 

[Dayyālu]

The guy is obsessive, but he is fundamentally right. SC is a gigantic clusterfuck, only doubt i have if its a criminal operation or not.

SC is like watching the best war ever. Both the sides are scum, but it's an endless amount of lulz. I swear the SA thread about SC "scandals" is quite amusing (your stock betrayed promises, pedophiles and sexual harassers on the team, former softcore porn stars).

They lose, we win. Laughs.

 

[Latelistener]

your stock betrayed promises, pedophiles and sexual harassers on the team, former softcore porn stars

 

[thesheeep]

So, how is the combat?

 

[Dayyālu]

That's Sandi Gardiner, wife of SC's head mogul Roberts. I'll admit, it's a rather tame fetish, but it's indeed amusing. But the shitslinging is the usual internet drama, fun for what it is.

 

[Grimlorn]

what's the deal with the pedophile and sexual harassers bit? Is it BS or what

 

[Makabb]

 

[Makabb]

Star Citizen might be some satanic organization

 

[Dayyālu]

what's the deal with the pedophile and sexual harassers bit? Is it BS or what

Checked more in-depth.

I stand corrected. Only some high-profile Star Citizens were connected to child porn rings or sexual misconducts. The worst people they have on the team are good old garden variety stalkers (the Ben PR guy had some fetish site where he collected data on a local news journo or something).

Well, a pity, it would have been far more fun. At least the softcore porn star thing was true.

 

[Brayko]

I've never spent $125 on a tech demo before, but I sure made an exception with Star Citizen! Seriously at this point if they just made Mechwarrior Online with Spaceships I would probably be content rather than wait for unreachable scale with a high probability crashing and burning.

 

[J_C]

former softcore porn stars).

softcore porn stars

 

[Yaar Podshipnik]

star?

 

[Alienman]

What is that tickling thing?

 

[The Fish]

What is that tickling thing?

Some creep paid people to be tickled on camera, to satisfy his fetish presumably. He often blackmailed the participants who threatened him. There was a documentary on it.

http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/28/14713658/tickled-documentary-review-hbo-special-tickle-king

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tickled

Though that might have been a different creep; probably the same sort of weirdness in her case I imagine.

 

[Severian Silk]

GUYS!! Star Citizen is totally legit. I don't see why you don't get it after 190 pages...

I pledged $782mil BTW

 

[Modron]

GUYS!! Star Citizen is totally legit. I don't see why you don't get it after 190 pages...

I pledged $782mil BTW

I hope you at least got to tickle Chris on his yacht.

 

[praetor]

Thanks. $35 isn't much but it'll contribute a little bit towards the £45 I just spent on a bottle of Japanese whisky.

what did you end up getting? at current prices, i can't think of many decent japanese whiskey you can get for so "cheap", particularly if they have an age statement

 

[Kev Inkline]

Obviously he hates war.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Thanks. $35 isn't much but it'll contribute a little bit towards the £45 I just spent on a bottle of Japanese whisky.

what did you end up getting? at current prices, i can't think of many decent japanese whiskey you can get for so "cheap", particularly if they have an age statement

Yamazaki Distillers Reserve. I like to consider myself a fairly knowledgeable whisky drinker, and it is one of my favourites. Sweet, delicate, tastes like strawberries. In terms of sweetness it is close to an American bourbon but it is actually a single malt and is basically Scotch, except Japanese. The Japs went to Scotland and copied their process exactly for when they set it up back home.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamazaki-Distillery-Reserve-Single-Whisky/dp/B00JOJB1T2/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1492537561&sr=8-1&keywords=yamazaki+distiller's+reserve

 

[Makabb]

 

[Severian Silk]

I think I saw a Mako in that video at 2:45.