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NWN Should I start with MOTB?

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by Verylittlefishes, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    TL; DR

    Guys, guys, I wanted to play MOTB and see Avellone in his glory. If I never played NWN2, should I start with MOTB with high-level character? Have no idea, good or bad the main game is (generally I hate 3D RPGs)
     
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  2. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    MotB has no real connection to the NWN2 main campaign.
    Yeah I know someone will give me shit about this, but it may as well be an entirely separate adventure that has nothing to do with it.
    NWN2 ends with
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    Rocks fall, everyone dies.
    Seriously.

    NWN2 main campaign is not worth your time. It has a couple highpoints and a lot of shit points.
     
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  3. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Accepted! Thanks.
     
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  4. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    There is really no reason to play the OC unless you want to start at a higher level (20-21, depending on how you stretched the XP). Most of the stuff you bring over will be superceded in very short order.
     
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  5. YldriE Learned

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    You are still the same character as NVN2 and there are a few references and returning characters, so at least read a TL;DR of the original campaign, and check the wiki if you feel like MotB seems to take something for granted.
     
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  6. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Yep, seems logical. Thanks.
     
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  7. Quillon Arcane

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    Isn't it Ziets in his glory?
     
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  8. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    I have no idea who this person is.
     
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  9. GentlemanCthulhu Savant

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    I previously thought i could get away with just playing MotB but i no longer play this. Not only is MotB's main character the very same one you play in the base game, there are also mentions of events from the main campaign that will fly right past you if you don't play it.
     
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  10. Geisler Educated

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    Like the man said, George Ziets was the lead writer for MOTB.
     
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  11. Quillon Arcane

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    He's a nobody. Remember, Avellone is responsible for all the good parts and only the good parts of past Obsidian games. Suck his dick regularly!
     
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  12. Kev Inkline Arcane Patron

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    A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
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  13. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Yummy
     
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  14. Prime Junta Self-Ejected Patron Vatnik

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    If you can tolerate the incredibly spongy combat in the NWN2 engine, as well as the herpa derp that is epic-level D&D3 then you're gonna have a blast. It has some really crazy storyfag moments. (It is more Ziets than MCA though, I believe MCA only wrote one character and contributed to the brainstorming a bit.)

    Also, the curse is a terrific retard detector. If you're back here raging about it in a few days, you will have been detected.
     
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  15. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Go ahead, it's what I did. You miss out on minor things you shouldn't care about.

    He was supposed to write one, but he wrote two because he's fast and no one else had time to write the other one who would have been cut if he didn't.
     
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  16. volklore Arcane

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    I recently played through the OC to play MOTB after (mainly because I dislike starting at high level in DnD games, and I read couple of time that the OC wasn't THAT bad). And sure the OC wasn't that terrible (just very long and painfully average) which led to me not booting up MOTB afterwards because I got tired of the engine and the game overall.
    So yes, skip the OC if your goal is to play MOTB.
     
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    I would start with NWN2 OC so that you have something to measure it against. Also, by playing the OC first you will have learnt all of the games system so that you can put your focus on enjoying the story of MotB instead of fighting the camera.
     
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  18. Prime Junta Self-Ejected Patron Vatnik

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    Playing NWN2 OC builds character. Highly recommended if your character needs building. Otherwise, not so much

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    the trial is pretty good and building up the stronghold isn't horrible but it has a terrible first chapter, way too much derpy writing, and an endgame that makes Mass Effect 3 look like masterful storytelling and level design
     
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  19. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Thank you all for the answers, so as soon as a finish Underrail AoD I'll give MOTB a try from scratch.
     
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  20. Bricker Educated

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    I would start with NWN2 OC too. Anyway good luck!
     
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  21. Dr Skeleton Cipher

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    You can safely start with MOTB because even if you wanted to play the base game after finishing MOTB I don't think you'd even get any spoilers or anything because MOTB has almost nothing to do with the base game and there is no reason to have the character from the OC as the protagonist in MOTB (other than to let people import their character, I guess). All I can remember is that you can meet one of your former companions and ask him some basic questions about what happened after the last boss fight of the OC. The only problem is that the OC is a lot longer and a lot worse than MOTB, so if you play MOTB first you probably won't make it through the OC. The base NWN 2 game is not terrible, some sections are pretty nice actually but it has a bad start, the swamp village, going to Neverwinter and Neverwinter questlines (that's prologue and first 2 chapters, I think?) are kinda shitty, it only gets better and opens up a little after that.
     
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  22. jf8350143 Savant

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    The only reason to import a character from the base game is that you can start at level 20 instead of level 18.
     
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  23. Egosphere Magister

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    Skip oc. Not worth it.
     
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  24. jewboy Arbiter

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    I assume you have already played through Planescape:Torment because that is really where MCA worked his magic. You've probably played Fallout New Vegas already but he also did some of the writing for that game especially in the expansions. MotB is a wonderful and well written game, but it's mostly Ziets aping MCA and doing a pretty good job of it. I am pretty sure MCA himself gave it a thumbs up.
     
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  25. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    I fucking hate this camera
     
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