Hobo Elf
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Oh god and there are people giving money to this greedy jew.
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KickStarter Shroud of the Avatar - Lord British's Not-Ultima Online 2
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FeelTheRads
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Cool. Classes as microtransactions.
Stabwound
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"They're not microtransactions if we don't call them that." 
Yeah, unlocking skill trees costing real $ has been known. Whatever you want to call it, DLC, microtransactions, "nominal fee" it's still the same thing: bullshit. What kind of person who wants to play a single-player offline game is going to want to pay for character classes? Imagine playing a D&D game where you can't be a thief unless you pay $10.
Pledging toward this game is actively encouraging this type of shit. You are literally voting for decline with your wallet. And Garriott pretending he doesn't have private investors which will have given him likely many times what the kickstarter will raise is slimy. Fuck this salesman.
Yeah, unlocking skill trees costing real $ has been known. Whatever you want to call it, DLC, microtransactions, "nominal fee" it's still the same thing: bullshit. What kind of person who wants to play a single-player offline game is going to want to pay for character classes? Imagine playing a D&D game where you can't be a thief unless you pay $10.
Pledging toward this game is actively encouraging this type of shit. You are literally voting for decline with your wallet. And Garriott pretending he doesn't have private investors which will have given him likely many times what the kickstarter will raise is slimy. Fuck this salesman.
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Wing Commander fanbase is a different (and possibly much more desperate) sort of crowd. He also got support from some of the EVE Online crowd, I think. They're already used to paying lots of dollars for their gaming - they do it every month.
Hobo Elf
Arcane
You can use in-game cash in EVE to pay for your sub now, and it's not even that hard to get enough money to do so afaik.
General Maxson
Arcane
I pity the fools.
What is disgusting he managed to get almost a million for this scamming piece of turd. And many potentially promising kickstarter projects fail.
What is disgusting he managed to get almost a million for this scamming piece of turd. And many potentially promising kickstarter projects fail.
But somebody still has to pay.
Hobo Elf
Arcane
Not if ISK has some real value. You can use ISK to buy sub money, and don't quote me on this, but I think you can also change it into cold hard cash too. But what do I know? I don't play EVE. I just heard about it from a friend who used to play.
Yes, but somebody has to buy the sub with cold hard cash and put it into the market.
Matt Barton @mattbarton
It looks like Lord British himself will be sitting down for an interview on Monday. If you got questions, let me have them.
It looks like Lord British himself will be sitting down for an interview on Monday. If you got questions, let me have them.
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I don't recall Matt mocking Gariott's KS?
This is the guy who said Kingdoms of Amalur was an ARPG done right and says romance can add a lot to an RPG. He's probably already pledged.
Stabwound
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I meant his recent video mocking kickstarters in general. He's had a ton of KS promoters on his show lately which pull the same exact tactics he ridicules in his video.
That was done weeks before anyone knew about LB's Kickstarter though (check the date of the video).
The hilarious thing is that he somehow predicted it.
I watched it again after seeing the pitch video for Shroud of the Avatar and I laughed even harder. It's a parallel of it in so many ways.
Why do you want to destroy Matt's monitor?
Charles-cgr
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"They're not microtransactions if we don't call them that."
They're not microtransactions if they're expensive
Why can't he just make either a UO or UX?
Stabwound
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Yeah. I truly believe Garriott could create an awesome open-ended MMORPG like UO. He seems to understand how monotonous the current MMORPG scene is: grinding to kill new bosses, following quest maps, etc. He has the ambition to create a truly interactive world. In all honestly I would have preferred a UO successor. I think he has a much better chance of pulling that off than a U7 successor or something that attempts to combine U4 and UO such as this game.
Stabwound
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That's his plan, anyway. To nickel and dime people for little upgrades and yearly expansion packs. I hope it falls flat on its face but sadly it will probably make more than a traditional Ultima-style game would. Maybe creating a UO sequel is too expensive. At least 1-2 UO sequels got cancelled over the years.
Probably. What he's going for allows him to spend less money and still draw in the UO crowd, as well as a few suckers who liked the old single player Ultimas for good measure.
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