Putting the 'role' back in role-playing games since 2002.
Donate to Codex
Good Old Games
  • Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.

KickStarter SKALD: Against the Black Priory - retro RPG inspired by Ultima

Ladonna

Arcane
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
11,325
I like this game. It isn't my favourite ever or anything, but it is a tight little package that I am having fun with. I turned off random trash mobs, and have to say, this option should be in most CRPG's. Nothing really to complain about. It is like a slick little early/mid 90's RPG. The music is pretty good too.

Another thing I would like with this game is a toolset. It would be fairly easy to crank out some good adventures with this engine.
 
Joined
May 31, 2018
Messages
2,867
Location
The Present
I am still having a grand time with this game. While its combat is relatively simplistic, I think it works for the most part. A better word for it might be concise. There isn't much redundancy. I'm enjoying the exploration and charm. The art and music are pleasing, and I don't generally care much for retro. I'm curious what they will do with the feedback. I think, as others have said, with a bit more iteration--this could be a really good game. The care and passion in it are palpable.
 

Nikanuur

Arbiter
Patron
Joined
Mar 1, 2021
Messages
1,762
Location
Ngranek
Just experienced Ranger landing 3 criticals + his Multi Attack = 5 attacks in a row, amounting to something close to 150 dmg. I think there's a slight bug, and it should've been even six attacks, but never mind, it was neat!
 

Nikanuur

Arbiter
Patron
Joined
Mar 1, 2021
Messages
1,762
Location
Ngranek
Finished it. Man, most good RPGs give you fun, a memory of the story, and several good characters and moments. This one gives an experience. As if from an unspeakably wholesome book. One that you lay beside you after you've finished, your eyes peering into the empty room, mind unable to grasp what's going on with all the dead silence in between all the sounds of the common reality, brain dumbstruck with the notion that the story hasn't truly ended, and you are neither in the universe of the book nor in your room.
 
Last edited:

roguefrog

Liturgist
Joined
Aug 6, 2003
Messages
590
Location
Tokyo, Japan
Chapter 3 is kind of a low point.

1. Undead. Immune to critical hits. Which totally turns combat into more of a slog...
2. Enemies that stun on hit. Basically puts a melee frontline out of commission for the entire fight.
3. Small environments with obstacles. This one is maddening given the above 2. Stunned guy doubles as a tile blocker!

Just withered down and killed everything with arrows.

The saving grace is this chapter is very short, and you can avoid most of the fights I think. But there IS a cubic fuckton of gold to loot. I think I looted more gold in this single chapter than the rest of the game combined. This fucking crypt is a gold mine!
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 31, 2018
Messages
2,867
Location
The Present
I didn't think Chapter 3 was so bad. Zombies and Ghouls present a new challenge. Hierophants and Magos, now mature in their builds, get time to shine. There are now enemy spellcasters too, so that's a change in pace.

I think the main problem is difficulty. There isn't much of it once you get to Chapter 2. Leveling up is frequent, so if you play defensively you can exploit the HP and Attunement refill to have exceptional adventuring endurance. Resting is almost superfluous.
 

Nikanuur

Arbiter
Patron
Joined
Mar 1, 2021
Messages
1,762
Location
Ngranek
Chapter 3 is kind of a low point.

1. Undead. Immune to critical hits. Which totally turns combat into more of a slog...
2. Enemies that stun on hit. Basically puts a melee frontline out of commission for the entire fight.
3. Small environments with obstacles. This one is maddening given the above 2. Stunned guy doubles as a tile blocker!

Just withered down and killed everything with arrows.

The saving grace is this chapter is very short, and you can avoid most of the fights I think. But there IS a cubic fuckton of gold to loot. I think I looted more gold in this single chapter than the rest of the game combined. This fucking crypt is a gold mine!
I agree that those moments were trying.
All the more appreciation for those otherwise insignificant fire or sublime spells. 20-35—sometimes even AoE—per spell was godsend.
 

Marte1980

Novice
Joined
Jun 30, 2020
Messages
24
How is the build variety for this game? Which builds are the most powerful/effective for a min-maxer?
 

Jermu

Arbiter
Patron
Joined
Aug 13, 2017
Messages
1,644
game is way too easy for min-maxing

officer for mc would be my choice for easy time, then use default companions
 

Marte1980

Novice
Joined
Jun 30, 2020
Messages
24
game is way too easy for min-maxing

officer for mc would be my choice for easy time, then use default companions
I don't min-max because it's needed, I do it because I like to do it. Whether the game's difficulty requires it or not is completely irrelevant. Thanks for the tip on Officer, I guess I'll have to check the class system. Are spellcasters good?
 

Fedora Master

STOP POSTING
Patron
Edgy
Joined
Jun 28, 2017
Messages
31,837
game is way too easy for min-maxing

officer for mc would be my choice for easy time, then use default companions
I don't min-max because it's needed, I do it because I like to do it. Whether the game's difficulty requires it or not is completely irrelevant. Thanks for the tip on Officer, I guess I'll have to check the class system. Are spellcasters good?
Having played as a Magos, they are good but more in the DnD sense of being disablers rather than straight damage dealers. Magic Missile is good, the rest of the damage spells seems too expensive in comparison. Fireball can be nice IF you can catch at least 3 enemies with it. You're also very reliant on Attunement potions, which are in limited supply.
 

Jermu

Arbiter
Patron
Joined
Aug 13, 2017
Messages
1,644
spell casters are kinda shit early-middle game, but more useful later
but think there was some balance changes after I played
 

Marte1980

Novice
Joined
Jun 30, 2020
Messages
24
spell casters are kinda shit early-middle game, but more useful later
but think there was some balance changes after I played
Yeah, unfertunately I saw some nerfs in one of the latest patches. I always check what the devs change after release to get a glimpse of the possible future direction of the game before I buy it. I always despise nerfs, but we'll see where it goes from here.
Regarding spellcasters, that's actually a good sign. The best scaling for spellcasters, for my taste, is one similar to BG2, because I want casters to be the kings of the endgame. I don't care if they're useless in the beginning. In case this one doesn't deliver that, I'll have to check how difficult it would be to mod it.
 
Joined
May 31, 2018
Messages
2,867
Location
The Present
The best damage spell is the Swarm of Gnats spell from the earth Tier 1 line. It only does 1 less damage than magic missile, but costs 2 less AP. If you develop cascade, you can cast up to four a turn, doing around 10-14 damage each cast. It also inflicts the Disrupted status.

Magos will be mostly dead weight until level 7 or 8, especially if you didn't develop Air. You'll mostly be a clutch for disabling BBEG like Fedora Master says. By chapter 3 your character build will be quite mature with over 100 Attunement to play with. Do not sleep on Spellfire, it's good now. Casting Lesser regen on your magos is a great opening move that will get much better mileage out of them. Crafting will also bail you out midgame with more potions than you can use.

Officer and Ranger are easily the best MC classes. I lean towards Ranger because their spell list is quite useful, and their Marked Target synergy is powerful and cheap.
 
Last edited:

Fedora Master

STOP POSTING
Patron
Edgy
Joined
Jun 28, 2017
Messages
31,837
Disclaimer: I played a weird build where my MC only used Air and Fire and Embla only used Earth.
 

koyota

Cipher
Patron
Joined
May 19, 2007
Messages
230
Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Yes arrows are scarce : apart from on the ramparts in the port but until Erryl merchants don't have that many to sell. And fletching would give mostly 1 arrow per rest, with crafting +5.
If you rest a few times: merchants restock arrows, doing that a few times before the final chapter is far more efficient than spamming rest / fletching.
 

roguefrog

Liturgist
Joined
Aug 6, 2003
Messages
590
Location
Tokyo, Japan
Rangers I believe are the most OP class. They are good start to finish. You're only real problem early game is running out of arrows. The prologue map has a merchant though, as does the refugee camp.

The game also gives you a ranger companion near the end of chapter 1.
 

Ladonna

Arcane
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
11,325
Finished. Won't spoil anything.

I want to play through more adventures in this engine though. It was just fun. Clocked just over 25 hours, and while I don't want to dive back into this story again for a while (it is fairly railroaded), I would love more 25 hour or so modules. Everything just fit together perfectly, with the art, music, general atmosphere and usability ticking my boxes. Really hoping the dev will organise a decent toolset for this one, and hopefully churn out any other adventures if he has any more decent stories up his sleeve. I could tell he enjoyed getting his tale across.

Really loved the music too, it fit into the game perfectly, so that would have to be licensed for use as well I guess.
 

Mortmal

Arcane
Joined
Jun 15, 2009
Messages
9,502
Are there choices and consequences in this game? For example, are you forced to be the good guys?
None at all, exactly like an 80's game but with a very good setting and atmosphere, and no cringe at all. Playing the good guys, yes, but then there's really no other viable alternative; being bad guys wouldn't make sense
 

Tyranicon

A Memory of Eternity
Developer
Joined
Oct 7, 2019
Messages
7,840
Rangers I believe are the most OP class. They are good start to finish. You're only real problem early game is running out of arrows. The prologue map has a merchant though, as does the refugee camp.

The game also gives you a ranger companion near the end of chapter 1.
They do suffer significantly in the late game due to lack of crits and arrow reliance/shortage.

As expected, mages shine more in the late game.
 

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.
Back
Top Bottom