Skyrim is worse than Oblivion in every way

[moraes]

That walk.

 

[Gord]

WTF?

Is Prosper now doing animation replacers, too?

 

[Surf Solar]

When is the Dragonborn DLC due for the PC? I handle Skyrim like a game you can loadup each two days or so, clear a random dungeon or do a "quest", then put it off again. This way the repitive gameplay is not so jarring and some mods tweak combat difficulty and some visuals, it can be a pleasing experience. That's why I'm cautiously optimistic for that new DLC, the Bloodmoon expansion is my favorite Addon of all time.

I also recently finished the "thieves" (lol) guild for the first time. The last few quests there were pants on retarded, really. It was even worse than the mages guild (which I can't complete this time since this "expedition" doesn't show up in this ancient ruin blablabla to teach the students) or the Companions questline (which I also can't complete because I cannot go into "Embershard Mine" to progress one quest). I haven't played the Dark Brotherhood yet, but I am sure I will be in for some surprise.... :D

 

[roll-a-die]

When is the Dragonborn DLC due for the PC? I handle Skyrim like a game you can loadup each two days or so, clear a random dungeon or do a "quest", then put it off again. This way the repitive gameplay is not so jarring and some mods tweak combat difficulty and some visuals, it can be a pleasing experience. That's why I'm cautiously optimistic for that new DLC, the Bloodmoon expansion is my favorite Addon of all time.

I also recently finished the "thieves" (lol) guild for the first time. The last few quests there were pants on retarded, really. It was even worse than the mages guild (which I can't complete this time since this "expedition" doesn't show up in this ancient ruin blablabla to teach the students) or the Companions questline (which I also can't complete because I cannot go into "Embershard Mine" to progress one quest). I haven't played the Dark Brotherhood yet, but I am sure I will be in for some surprise.... :D

Sometime between now and 20∞

Also i still contend than the thieves guild would be far better if they just fucking called it the rogues guild, rather than sticking to tradition. It would at least make a modicum of sense as a rogues guild, because you do roguey things, not thivey things.

Dragonborn is lulzy near the end, and on the main plot, but features a lot of lore, that mostly went untouched during Oblivion and Skyrim, and helps round off the stuff they didn't really cover already. Most of it is derptastic though, like Redoran being the only major house left.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

WTF?

Is Prosper now doing animation replacers, too?

You have the exact same avatar for that matter

Dragonborn is lulzy near the end, and on the main plot, but features a lot of lore, that mostly went untouched during Oblivion and Skyrim, and helps round off the stuff they didn't really cover already. Most of it is derptastic though, like Redoran being the only major house left.

Telvanni also seems to do rather well, in a "powerful and influential elite minority" way. Hlaalu was kicked out of the Council for being tied to the Empire and is replaced with some House Sadras though and Indoril is clergy now, from what I've picked from UESP and Elder Scrolls Wiki (which is dumber, but updated more often)

I'd just like to play it myself since Morrowind was amazing. Supposedly the next DLC will be called Redguard and will feature spears with their own perks, but I don't care for Redguards.

I also recently finished the "thieves" (lol) guild for the first time. The last few quests there were pants on retarded, really. It was even worse

Don't remember where I found this LP. Enjoy the lulz.

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=14422

 

[DraQ]

Ah, the mod I've once referred to as "the suckiest mod that ever sucked".

 

[roll-a-die]

Ah, the mod I've once referred to as "the suckiest mod that ever sucked".

That would be, lemme spin the super bad mod wheel really quick like, Qarls Gothic Attire, or, BONUS SPIN, Labria, both of which add utterly inconsistent POINTLESS things and tend to break other things.

At least the anim replacer has a point, it's meant to improve the animations, it sucks at that. But it has a point. Labria's point if you want to call it that, is as a masturbation aid. And it breaks the entire Tribunal Questline and Qarls Gothic Attire is an attempt to make the most inconsistent manners of dress available, PVC Skirts and Teddy's for example were a feature that Qarl advertised proudly. It also breaks certain other mods like Balmora Expanded and then he moved it to Surran and it's broken there now as well.

And yes, even though Slof's has weirder stuff in her shop for oblivion, some of the stuff sold there, is actually kinda maybe possibly within the setting. Just not for a few hundred years. The gentleman's coats I could honestly see being made into the vampire armor you see in dawn guard. Nothing in Qarls fits the setting, it's just fetish wear.

 

[DraQ]

At least the anim replacer has a point, it's meant to improve the animations, it sucks at that.

If the improvement is worse than having no animations at all, then maybe author should consider doing something with their life.
Like shooting themselves in the head.

 

[Luzur]

Ah, the mod I've once referred to as "the suckiest mod that ever sucked".

That would be, lemme spin the super bad mod wheel really quick like, Qarls Gothic Attire, or, BONUS SPIN, Labria, both of which add utterly inconsistent POINTLESS things and tend to break other things.

At least the anim replacer has a point, it's meant to improve the animations, it sucks at that. But it has a point. Labria's point if you want to call it that, is as a masturbation aid. And it breaks the entire Tribunal Questline and Qarls Gothic Attire is an attempt to make the most inconsistent manners of dress available, PVC Skirts and Teddy's for example were a feature that Qarl advertised proudly. It also breaks certain other mods like Balmora Expanded and then he moved it to Surran and it's broken there now as well.

And yes, even though Slof's has weirder stuff in her shop for oblivion, some of the stuff sold there, is actually kinda maybe possibly within the setting. Just not for a few hundred years. The gentleman's coats I could honestly see being made into the vampire armor you see in dawn guard. Nothing in Qarls fits the setting, it's just fetish wear.

Labria? that lesbian mod that added a bordello or what is was in the Tribunal temple?

 

[Gord]

You have the exact same avatar for that matter

Now that you mention it...
The avatar has tradition though. Dates back at least to the ancient greece, which begs the question, was there some "artist" called Prosperios of Syracuse who came up with it?
If so, is he Prospers ancestor, or is Prosper a re-incarnation? Hmmm....

 

[DraQ]

Now that you mention it...
The avatar has tradition though. Dates back at least to the ancient greece, which begs the question, was there some "artist" called Prosperios of Syracuse who came up with it?
If so, is he Prospers ancestor, or is Prosper a re-incarnation? Hmmm....

Cavern of the Incarnate filled with ghosts of failed Prosperines...


dafuq am i writing

 

[roll-a-die]

Ah, the mod I've once referred to as "the suckiest mod that ever sucked".

That would be, lemme spin the super bad mod wheel really quick like, Qarls Gothic Attire, or, BONUS SPIN, Labria, both of which add utterly inconsistent POINTLESS things and tend to break other things.

At least the anim replacer has a point, it's meant to improve the animations, it sucks at that. But it has a point. Labria's point if you want to call it that, is as a masturbation aid. And it breaks the entire Tribunal Questline and Qarls Gothic Attire is an attempt to make the most inconsistent manners of dress available, PVC Skirts and Teddy's for example were a feature that Qarl advertised proudly. It also breaks certain other mods like Balmora Expanded and then he moved it to Surran and it's broken there now as well.

And yes, even though Slof's has weirder stuff in her shop for oblivion, some of the stuff sold there, is actually kinda maybe possibly within the setting. Just not for a few hundred years. The gentleman's coats I could honestly see being made into the vampire armor you see in dawn guard. Nothing in Qarls fits the setting, it's just fetish wear.

Labria? that lesbian mod that added a bordello or what is was in the Tribunal temple?

Assuming I'm reading your brand of morning/evening foreign correctly.

I may have gotten the name wrong.

Basically it covered the temple of almalexia in porn and made it a temple to an aspect of Dibella, the author named Labria. It was meant to be "Post-Tribunal" so rather than creating a script to do this, he just replaced the areas, because it was easier.

 

[EruDaan]

The thing I can't get over ist that Neloth, Telvanni Master Sorcerer, is now nothing more but some merchant, selling stuff, and a quest giver of the most basic sort. Neloth, dude, what happened? Blew all your power and money on drugs and hookers or what?

 

[DraQ]

Assuming I'm reading your brand of morning/evening foreign correctly.

I may have gotten the name wrong.

Basically it covered the temple of almalexia in porn and made it a temple to an aspect of Dibella, the author named Labria. It was meant to be "Post-Tribunal" so rather than creating a script to do this, he just replaced the areas, because it was easier.

Pics or I won't believe it ever happened.

 

[DraQ]

The thing I can't get over ist that Neloth, Telvanni Master Sorcerer, is now nothing more but some merchant, selling stuff, and a quest giver of the most basic sort. Neloth, dude, what happened? Blew all your power and money on drugs and hookers or what?

Couldn't get over the loss of levitation?

 

[roll-a-die]

Assuming I'm reading your brand of morning/evening foreign correctly.

I may have gotten the name wrong.

Basically it covered the temple of almalexia in porn and made it a temple to an aspect of Dibella, the author named Labria. It was meant to be "Post-Tribunal" so rather than creating a script to do this, he just replaced the areas, because it was easier.

Pics or I won't believe it ever happened.

Unfortunately Cenobytes website no longer exists, as far as I know, so it's impossible to find it. I could check Fliggerty's mod archiving center, but honestly that's too much effort, and I operate almost entirely on linux now. So morrowind is a wee bit tricky to get running.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

The thing I can't get over ist that Neloth, Telvanni Master Sorcerer, is now nothing more but some merchant, selling stuff, and a quest giver of the most basic sort. Neloth, dude, what happened? Blew all your power and money on drugs and hookers or what?

He created Staff Enchanter and the certain "magical things" he does are more of what we've seen with Psijics. The game's exposition sucks, not Neloth.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

Assuming I'm reading your brand of morning/evening foreign correctly.

I may have gotten the name wrong.

Basically it covered the temple of almalexia in porn and made it a temple to an aspect of Dibella, the author named Labria. It was meant to be "Post-Tribunal" so rather than creating a script to do this, he just replaced the areas, because it was easier.

Pics or I won't believe it ever happened.

You underestimate Bethesda modders.

 

[Luzur]

Labria? that lesbian mod that added a bordello or what is was in the Tribunal temple?

Assuming I'm reading your brand of morning/evening foreign correctly.

I may have gotten the name wrong.

Basically it covered the temple of almalexia in porn and made it a temple to an aspect of Dibella, the author named Labria. It was meant to be "Post-Tribunal" so rather than creating a script to do this, he just replaced the areas, because it was easier.

morning/evening foreign..?

anyway, we are both talking about the same mod.

 

[roll-a-die]

Labria? that lesbian mod that added a bordello or what is was in the Tribunal temple?

Assuming I'm reading your brand of morning/evening foreign correctly.

I may have gotten the name wrong.

Basically it covered the temple of almalexia in porn and made it a temple to an aspect of Dibella, the author named Labria. It was meant to be "Post-Tribunal" so rather than creating a script to do this, he just replaced the areas, because it was easier.

morning/evening foreign..?

anyway, we are both talking about the same mod.

Your grammar was confusing, even for me, who was raised to speak and write in basic English, French/Cajun and Spanish. But now due to not speaking the last two in around two decades mixes up grammar more than he'd like to admit. When I read it it sounded in my head like you were tired and kind of murmuring. Or otherwise had your faculties impaired due to exhaustion. IE You had just gotten up, or had just gotten home from a very stressful day at work.


Good to know that I haven't lost my mind about mods I remember being advertised proudly on the Official Forums. Cenobyte and Qarl are the reason theres a NSFW ban there now. Them and the maker of the actually good bordello mod For Love or Money, or some such.

 

[EruDaan]

The game's exposition sucks, not Neloth.

That's what plagues the TES series altely, isn't it?

 

[DraQ]

That's what plagues the TES series altely, isn't it?

Well, in oblivious pretty much everything was plaguing TES series. Apart from further dumbing down of the mechanics Skyrim is a massive improvement, although not as good as Morrowind.

 

[EruDaan]

I wonder if any future TES game will be as good as Morrowind (which isn't as good as Daggerfall as some people never miss to point out)?

 

[DraQ]

Yeah, that late 90's and early 2000's aesthetic where everything was kind of trying to be photorealistic is extremely nostalgic to me. The colors, the lighting, it's always felt more "real" to me than the stuff in later games. Even with texture replacers and higher poly models, it feels a lot different from Skyrim.


Everything looks really off to me in Skyrim. I think maybe the texture resolution hasn't improved as consistently as poly count or something. Also lots of grunge overlays which don't tile very well, leaving screenshots very visually noisy and murky.

It's mostly the problem with bumpmaps. Bumpmaps are nice technology, but unless they are really high-res, they will look off, like a poor quality wax or plastic cast. Textures may not fake 3D relief nearly as well, but they don't produce this effect, not to mention the fact that Morrowind had a lot of really nice, high-res textures.

Then you have shitty hyperreal stuff like excessive bloom. Skyrim doesn't overuse it that much, but in oblivious you literally felt pangs of pain when looking at particularly luminous scene. Morrowind had none.

Skyrim actually looks pretty well aesthetically, despite using relatively low-poly models compared to oblivious, it has strong art direction and consistent style. Oblivious was fucking horror to look at.

I wonder if any future TES game will be as good as Morrowind (which isn't as good as Daggerfall as some people never miss to point out)?

I actually consider Morrowind a bit better than Daggerfall. DF was by far the most ambitious, but it was largely potenital untapped. Morrowind was less ambitious, but there were more things going on with systems and content that were implemented.

 

[Kahlis]

For me a DaggerXL installation running in 640x480 software mode, all of the game's cut content re-implemented, and the prospect for further modding, would be the ideal TES game. But from where we stand now, Morrowind beats Daggerfall by just a bit.